UltraChad
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Both you and those you support.
What's wrong with "globalism"?
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Nobody. As usual, you are hallucinating.
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Not at all.....it's why you support globalism so much.
Of course globalism is against borders on principle. But there is nobody in American politics, nobody at all, who "screeches "NAZI!!! LIKE LITERALLY HITLAH!!!" at the very mention of having borders or any sort of immigration enforcement policy." Nor is there anybody who "is pushing for censorship, persecution of religious beliefs and disarming of citizenry." Gun control is an unfortunately feeble movement here, and never demands a complete ban. And, no, shaming caterers who won't do gay weddings is not "persecution of religious beliefs," and trying to shout down hate speech is not "censorship." "Cancel culture" is not censorship either.
This is what "cancel culture" is.
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Glad we're here.....that makes it's supporters against the USA, on principle.
Nations do not need borders to exist. Nations do not even need nation-states to exist. If the EU ever evolves to the point where we can no longer call its member nations independent, France will still be France and Germany will still be Germany. Nothing worth keeping will have been lost. Likewise if all nations are merged in a world state. To be against American independence is not to be against the USA -- no more than to be against capitalism is to be against the USA. (Capital has no nation anyway.)
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In any modern sense of the term they do.
Nations are not states. Nations are cultural-linguistic communities. The Kurds are a nation, but they have no state.
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In 2024 they are. Have been for a few hundred years now.
Nations are older than nation-states and will exist after them.
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Yes, and they are already gone bub....nation states are all that's left.
Welcome to 2024......
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What's wrong with that?
They go to war all the time, for one thing.
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That's not nationalist or nation state specific. Sure as fuck not something globalist are shy about using when it benefits them either.
That's not even politically, religious or any other kind of specific. That's all humans everywhere....
So....what's wrong with nation states being a thing?
Union prevents war. Virginia is not always fighting Maryland. As it might well be, if the Constitutional Convention had failed to come up with something.
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No, it doesn't. Not even in the USA.
No one has explained this yet.
Just a few years ago, the NWO was the RW's main boogeyman.
UltraChad
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Still is.
We just realize it's not the NWO, it's just the DNC.
Without the DNC there is no NWO.
Then it wouldn't be global.
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For those who are brilliant, well educated, and well connected globalism means lucrative professional and investment opportunities and inexpensive servants. For the rest of us globalism means that good jobs are hard to get, hard to keep, and they pay less while they last.
Is globalism, then, just another name for capitalism?
Haven't you noticed that the European states, which have been fighting each other more or less continually since the fall of Rome, do not fight any more?
That is because they have a European Union now.
Nations need border for the people inside them to be able to exercise political control. Or to practice politics in any meaningful way. The problem with globalism is not the diminishing importance of borders, but the governance models imposed on the new spaces.
The problem with globalism is that it removes most issues of industrial and economic policy from the democratic system and places them in unelected elite institutions beyond democratic control. Smaller institutions, like a commission or governing board, will always be more amenable to corruption and influence from concentrated wealth, i.e. large corporations and the ultrarich.
