Thanks, Biden!!!

[RobDownSouth]

Doesn't God preordain all of our presidents?

Trump's election in 2016 settled the ontological question once and for all: God is Dead.

 

[icanhelp1]

Trump agrees with your view on this and was disappointed with today's vote. But, when people start making violent plans, it's helpful to find out about them earlier rather than later.

What’s wrong with normal protocols like getting a warrant?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

What’s wrong with normal protocols like getting a warrant?

FISA wiretaps do require warrants.

 

[icanhelp1]

FISA wiretaps do require warrants.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/us/politics/surveillance-bill-fisa.html

House Passes 2-Year Surveillance Law Extension Without Warrant Requirement​

 

[coati]

What’s wrong with normal protocols like getting a warrant?

Thank God open-border Deplorables like you are not in charge of monitoring rapid electronic communications with connections to possible foreign agents. Read the damned bill instead of taking your talking points from MAGAt Central.

If you want to dick around with domestic judicial procedures while foreign agents are taking advantage of this vulnerability, it's no wonder the MAGAts blocked funding for border security. Who the hell do you work for?

We live in an overpopulated and highly mobile world that is connected with a rapid international communications system. Get with the times and cut the bullshit with your open-border policies.

Thanks, Biden (and Speaker Johnson), for ignoring the open-border MAGAts on this issue.

 

[jaF0]

FISA wiretaps do require warrants.

And that's just ONE of the problems with the act.

 

[icanhelp1]

Thank God open-border Deplorables like you are not in charge of monitoring rapid electronic communications with connections to possible foreign agents. Read the damned bill instead of taking your talking points from MAGAt Central.

If you want to dick around with domestic judicial procedures while foreign agents are taking advantage of this vulnerability, it's no wonder the MAGAts blocked funding for border security. Who the hell do you work for?

We live in an overpopulated and highly mobile world that is connected with a rapid international communications system. Get with the times and cut the bullshit with your open-border policies.

Thanks, Biden (and Speaker Johnson), for ignoring the open-border MAGAts on this issue.

Protection of individual rights is more important than your damn authoritarian rule. IF communications involve both foreign and U.S. citizens the law should require a warrant for all citizens.

We certainly don’t want anymore crossfire hurricanes do we?

 

[coati]

Protection of individual rights is more important than your damn authoritarian rule. IF communications involve both foreign and U.S. citizens the law should require a warrant for all citizens.

We certainly don’t want anymore crossfire hurricanes do we?

A bipartisan coalition in Congress disagrees with you and Trump on this.

 

[icanhelp1]

A bipartisan coalition in Congress disagrees with you and Trump on this.

Yup they did!

 

[coati]

Yup they did!

After 911 they decided to play by the same rules for foreign electronic communications as those nations that hosted the terrorists who attacked us or our allies. When I worked as a contractor in the Middle East, I took it for granted that all my emails were monitored.

 

[icanhelp1]

After 911 they decided to play by the same rules for foreign electronic communications as those nations that hosted the terrorists who attacked us or our allies. When I worked as a contractor in the Middle East, I took it for granted that all my emails were monitored.

The concern should be the 200,000 + FISA abuses by the FBI on American citizens on the mainland. Our government is out of control. Warrants on American citizens within the U.S. is prudent. Overseas operations are a whole different set of circumstances. I'm sure your Es were surveilled oversea.

The 911 problem was our intelligence agencies were stove-piped, not sharing intelligence with each other hence the creation of the DHS. IMHO

 

[coati]

^^^Write to your Congressional rep and tell them you want to make it more complex and time consuming to monitor the communications of foreign nationals, because that might snag some American citizens who are communicating with those foreign nationals. Give them your "humble opinion" on the topic.

Who knows. maybe the Congressional staff will say, "Wow, this guy from the porn board really has an important point here. We need to slow down intelligence gathering operations to avoid snagging American citizens who might be involved."

 

[RobDownSouth]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/us/politics/surveillance-bill-fisa.html

House Passes 2-Year Surveillance Law Extension Without Warrant Requirement​

Wow, the votes for that bill are all over the place, half the Dems and half the Republicans voted against it, the rest for it.

Needing a warrant to snoop on domestic email accounts who are colluding with Russia (a favorite money maker for MAGA) failed because the vote ended in a tie and the House Speaker voted "no". The Feds can now snoop through Republican emails for the next two years unimpeded by due process and stuff.

I think this is bad for America but worse for traitor Republicans. Not that it matters, most Republicans moved their financial emails to Proton email (256 unbreakable encryption keys!) back in 2021.

 

[icanhelp1]

Wow, the votes for that bill are all over the place, half the Dems and half the Republicans voted against it, the rest for it.

Needing a warrant to snoop on domestic email accounts who are colluding with Russia (a favorite money maker for MAGA) failed because the vote ended in a tie and the House Speaker voted "no". The Feds can now snoop through Republican emails for the next two years unimpeded by due process and stuff.

I think this is bad for America but worse for traitor Republicans. Not that it matters, most Republicans moved their financial emails to Proton email (256 unbreakable encryption keys!) back in 2021.

Whether it's vile democrats or so called traitor republicans, it's bad law period. Our government is already over intrusive on its own citizens. I suspect that because of lax border enforcement lawmakers were unsure changing 702 at this time was a wise move. I kind of agree with that but if more FISA violations exist after 2 years then they should amend it. IMHO

 

[Lazaran]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/us/politics/surveillance-bill-fisa.html

From the article:

“Such policy disputes over the measure have been overshadowed in recent days by a political furor prompted by Mr. Trump. This week he directed lawmakers in a social media post to “KILL FISA,” asserting that it had been used to illegally spy on his 2016 presidential campaign.

Mr. Trump’s contention was incoherent as a matter of law and policy because there are two types of FISA surveillance and the type that is expiring — Section 702 — has nothing to do with the type the F.B.I. used in its investigation into the links between his campaign and Russia amid Moscow’s covert efforts to help him win the 2016 election.

Wiretapping for national security investigations targeting Americans or people on domestic soil is governed by the traditional type of FISA, which REQUIRES WARRANTS”



Hope that ^ helps.



ineedhelp1

 

[desecration]

Mr. Trump’s contention was incoherent as a matter of law and policy because there are two types of FISA surveillance and the type that is expiring — Section 702 — has nothing to do with the type the F.B.I. used in its investigation into the links between his campaign and Russia amid Moscow’s covert efforts to help him win the 2016 election.

I think we can more broadly say that many of us are opposed to this type of surveillance in general. Thank Bush for the DHS and Patriot Act.

 

[icanhelp1]

I think we can more broadly say that many of us are opposed to this type of surveillance in general. Thank Bush for the DHS and Patriot Act.

What do the critics of Section 702 say?​

Of particular concern is that while the program intends to target people who aren’t Americans, a lot of data from US citizens gets swept up if they communicate with anyone abroad—and, again, this is without a warrant. The 2022 annual report on the program revealed that intelligence agencies ran searches on an estimated 3.4 million “US persons” during the previous year; that’s an unusually high number for the program, though the FBI attributed it to an uptick in investigations of Russia-based cybercrime that targeted US infrastructure. Critics have raised alarms about the ways the FBI has used the program to surveil Americans including Black Lives Matter activists and a member of Congress.

In a letter to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer this week, over 25 civil society organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), the Center for Democracy & Technology, and the Freedom of the Press Foundation, said they “strongly oppose even a short-term reauthorization of Section 702.”


Wikimedia, the foundation that runs Wikipedia, also opposes the program in its current form, saying it leaves international open-source projects vulnerable to surveillance. “Wikimedia projects are edited and governed by nearly 300,000 volunteers around the world who share free knowledge and serve billions of readers globally. Under Section 702, every interaction on these projects is currently subject to surveillance by the NSA,” says a spokesperson for the Wikimedia Foundation. “Research shows that online surveillance has a ‘chilling effect’ on Wikipedia users, who will engage in self-censorship to avoid the threat of governmental reprisals for accurately documenting or accessing certain kinds of information.”

 

[coati]

Yes, Russians are actively collaborating with millions of U.S. patsies, mostly a group that is collectively known as the MAGAts.

So, MAGAts, "humbly" write to that RINO Mike Johnson and tell him to quit interfering with your cash flow.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Yeah. You're the only one who sees that connection...

 

[Lazaran]

Yeah. You're the only one who sees that connection...

Wrong .

 

[JoePepsiCo]

You see all sorts of things that the voices in your head describe to you...

 

[coati]

JoePatsyCo

 

[JoePepsiCo]

¬ clever

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Weakness and fecklessness lead to pizza sales: https://pjmedia.com/victoria-taft/2...pentagon-is-very-worried-about-wwiii-n4928159

"How seriously has the Pentagon brass treated this potential world-changing event? We are informed by the "good old Pentagon Pizza index." This "FOODINT" (food intelligence) index is a way to assess if the American Military Industrial Complex is on full alert and arrayed to spend long hours watching the world on the brink of WWIII."

 

[jaF0]

Business boom: Record numbers of people are starting up new small businesses​

Record numbers of people are starting new businesses, and more and more of them are women and minorities, according to a new study.