SHOCK REPORT! U.S. Government in Possession of several UFOs (Intact and Partially Intact)

[HisArpy]

It is speculated that at the time of the big bang particles traveled faster than the speed of light which seems to indicate travel faster than the speed of light is at least a theoretical possibility.

The issue is time. Traveling faster than light violates the laws of time.

At least as we understand time.

 

[Rightguide]

Dr. Greer is a nutbag, pys-op operative, or both. I wouldn't trust a word he says.

Look again, he met with and briefed Presidents, he headed programs, he leads a whole group of whistle-blowers on these dark programs, and was at a much higher level of government than the dude you're talking about. Just so you know, I find all of this hard to believe, so I'm a skeptic as well.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

The issue is time. Traveling faster than light violates the laws of time.

At least as we understand time.

Laws of time? *sigh*

 

[BluesDriver66]

Yeah, the Gummint! The Deep State! That's the ticket!

Know your history.

9 huge government conspiracies that actually happened​

1. The US Department of the Treasury poisoned alcohol during Prohibition — and people died. ​

2. The US Public Health Service lied about treating black men with syphilis for more than 40 years.​

3. More than 100 million Americans received a polio vaccine contaminated with a potentially cancer-causing virus.​

4. Parts of the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, which led to US intervention in Vietnam, never happened.​

5. Military leaders reportedly planned terrorist attacks in the US to drum up support for a war against Cuba.​

6. The government tested the effects of LSD on unwitting US and Canadian citizens.​

7. In 1974, the CIA secretly resurfaced a sunken Soviet submarine with three nuclear-armed ballistic missiles.​

8. The US government sold weapons to Iran, violating an embargo, and used the money to support Nicaraguan militants. ​

9. A public-relations firm organized congressional testimony that propelled US involvement in the Persian Gulf War.​

https://www.businessinsider.com/true-government-conspiracies-2013-12

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Know your history.

9 huge government conspiracies that actually happened​

1. The US Department of the Treasury poisoned alcohol during Prohibition — and people died. ​

2. The US Public Health Service lied about treating black men with syphilis for more than 40 years.​

3. More than 100 million Americans received a polio vaccine contaminated with a potentially cancer-causing virus.​

4. Parts of the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, which led to US intervention in Vietnam, never happened.​

5. Military leaders reportedly planned terrorist attacks in the US to drum up support for a war against Cuba.​

6. The government tested the effects of LSD on unwitting US and Canadian citizens.​

7. In 1974, the CIA secretly resurfaced a sunken Soviet submarine with three nuclear-armed ballistic missiles.​

8. The US government sold weapons to Iran, violating an embargo, and used the money to support Nicaraguan militants. ​

9. A public-relations firm organized congressional testimony that propelled US involvement in the Persian Gulf War.​

https://www.businessinsider.com/true-government-conspiracies-2013-12

And none of that has anything to do with the existence of aliens.

 

[jaF0]

Ask Uncle Martin.

 

[BluesDriver66]

And none of that has anything to do with the existence of aliens.

So argumentative and contrarian. The government can conspire on any issue. UFO/aliens are no exception.


Paul Frederic Bennewitz, Jr. (September 29, 1927 – June 23, 2003) was an American businessman and UFO investigator. According to multiple sources, Bennewitz was the target of a government disinformation campaign that ultimately led to his psychiatric hospitalization.[1][2]


On July 1, 1989, William Moore revealed that he tried to push Bennewitz into a mental breakdown by feeding him false information about aliens.[31]

In 1990, the Bennewitz story was featured in Howard Blum's book Out There: The Government's Secret Quest for Extraterrestrials. Blum publicized that the government had sent undercover agents to befriend and mislead Bennewitz using counterfeit documents.[33]

Former special agent for the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations Richard Doty claimed that in the 1980s he was tasked with hoaxing documents and feeding false information to UFO researchers, including Bennewitz.[38]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bennewitz

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

So argumentative and contrarian. The government can conspire on any issue. UFO/aliens are no exception.


Paul Frederic Bennewitz, Jr. (September 29, 1927 – June 23, 2003) was an American businessman and UFO investigator. According to multiple sources, Bennewitz was the target of a government disinformation campaign that ultimately led to his psychiatric hospitalization.[1][2]


On July 1, 1989, William Moore revealed that he tried to push Bennewitz into a mental breakdown by feeding him false information about aliens.[31]

In 1990, the Bennewitz story was featured in Howard Blum's book Out There: The Government's Secret Quest for Extraterrestrials. Blum publicized that the government had sent undercover agents to befriend and mislead Bennewitz using counterfeit documents.[33]

Former special agent for the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations Richard Doty claimed that in the 1980s he was tasked with hoaxing documents and feeding false information to UFO researchers, including Bennewitz.[38]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bennewitz

But there’s no proof of any of that.
I’m fact what you’ve posted is further evidence the government isn’t covering anything up because if they were it would have been exposed by now.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

The issue is time. Traveling faster than light violates the laws of time.

At least as we understand time.

Laws of time? *sigh*

To be clear, there are no "laws of time" that prohibit tachyons. Some theoretical tachyons may violate causality, and their physicality is debatable. But there are no "laws of time" recognized by physics that I am aware of.

 

[BluesDriver66]

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[BrightShinyGirl]

Yes, flying saucers are make-believe.

 

[BluesDriver66]

Yes, flying saucers are make-believe.

What should happen to Navy pilots that report UFOs? Should they be relieved of duty for lying?

 

[BluesDriver66]

Yes, flying saucers are make-believe.

Not according to United States Air Force General Nathan Farragut Twining.



His September letter/memo was originally classified, but later released through FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) requests. It is a barn-burner, not just for its time, but for our time. It starts out with the single sentence, under Section 2, “It is the opinion that” —

“The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious.”

The Full Transcript
September 23, 1947
SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning “Flying Discs”
TO: Commanding General
Army Air Forces
Washington 25, D.C.
ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen, AC/AS-2

1. As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the considered opinion of this command concerning the so-called “Flying Discs.” This opinion is based on interrogation report data furnished by AC/AS-2 and preliminary studies by personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory, Engineering Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence T-2, Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3.
2. It is the opinion that:

a. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious.
b. There are objects probably approximating the shape of a disc, of such appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made aircraft.
c. There is a possibility that some of the incidents may be caused by natural phenomena, such as meteors.
d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and motion which must be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by friendly aircraft and radar, lend belief to the possibility that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically or remotely.
e. The apparent common description is as follows:
(1) Metallic or light reflecting surface.
(2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances where the object apparently was operating under high performance conditions.
(3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed on top.
(4) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from three to nine objects.
(5) Normally no associated sound, except in three instances a substantial rumbling roar was noted.
(6) Level flight speeds normally above 300 knots are estimated.
f. It is possible within the present U.S. knowledge — provided extensive detailed development is undertaken — to construct a piloted aircraft which has the general description of the object in sub- paragraph (e) above which would be capable of an approximate range of 7000 miles at subsonic speeds.
g. Any development in this country along the lines indicated would be extremely expensive, time consuming and at the considerable expense of current projects and therefore, if directed, should be set up independently of existing projects.
h. Due consideration must be given the following:-
(1) The possibility that these objects are of domestic origin — the product of some high security project not known to AC/AS-2 or this Command.
(2) The lack of physical evidence in the shape of crash recovered exhibits which would undeniably prove the existence of these subjects.
(3) The possibility that some foreign nation has a form of propulsion possibly nuclear, which is outside of our domestic knowledge.

3. It is recommended that:

a. Headquarters, Army Air Forces issue a directive assigning a priority, security classification and Code name for a detailed study of this matter to include the preparation of complete sets of all available and pertinent data which will then be made available to the Army, Navy, Atomic Energy Commission, JRDB, the Air Force Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, and the RAND and NEPA projects for comments and recommendations, with a preliminary report to be forwarded within 15 days of receipt of the data and a detailed report thereafter every 30 days as the investigation develops. A complete interchange of data should be affected.

4. Awaiting a specific directive AMC will continue the investigation within its current resources in order to more closely define the nature of the phenomenon. Detailed Essential Elements of Information will be formulated immediately for transmittal thru channels.
N.F. TWINING
Lieutenant General, U.S.A.
Commanding

https://medium.com/on-the-trail-of-the-saucers/twining-memo-ufo-c719bed1d287

 

[coati]

Hey Deplorables, have you considered that maybe the aliens in the flying saucers might be directing the Deep State to persecute your cult leader and suppress information about about the flying saucers?

Just saying...

 

[BeatMan]

where are the pictures? if there are no pictures and videos they do not exist

 

[BluesDriver66]

where are the pictures? if there are no pictures and videos they do not exist

 

[BluesDriver66]

Hey Deplorables, have you considered that maybe the aliens in the flying saucers might be directing the Deep State to persecute your cult leader and suppress information about about the flying saucers?

Just saying...

The subject is UFO/UAP. Not your obsession with Trump supporters. Try to stay focused.

 

[BluesDriver66]

Secret facilities don't just let random people in to wander around. How would you know where to go or what to look for?

All you've got so far are vague references to 'materials' or 'technology' along with some anecdotes.

"Grusch also said he has not seen photos of the alleged craft himself, but has spoken extensively with other intelligence officials who have."

https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/military-whistleblowe-us-ufo-retrieval-program/

It's fair to say that anything like this would be at the highest level of classification, but apparently people with that level of clearance are only too happy to chat about it to some guy who wasn't involved. You can jump to the conclusion that there are alien spacecraft on earth just because he says so. Or you can consider that he's trying to get himself a post-retirement gig as an alien spacecraft guru who appears on TV every time there's a random light in the sky.

This is not one guy with one story. Several whistle blowers from the military and intel agencies are coming forward with their own experiences.

Ex-Air Force Personnel: UFOs Deactivated Nukes​

One of the more out-of-the-ordinary press conferences held in Washington this week consisted of former Air Force personnel testifying to the existence of UFOs and their ability to neutralize American and Russian nuclear missiles.

UFO researcher Robert Hastings of Albuquerque, N.M., who organized the National Press Club briefing, said more than 120 former service members had told him they'd seen unidentified flying objects near nuclear weapon storage and testing grounds.

Star & Stripes quoted former Air Force Capt. Robert Salas, who was at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana in 1967 when 10 ICMs he was overseeing suddenly became inoperative - at the same time base security informed him of a mysterious red glowing object in the sky.

Robert Jamison, a retired USAF nuclear missile targeting officer, told of several occasions having to go out and "re-start" missiles that had been deactivated, after UFOs were sighted nearby.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-air-force-personnel-ufos-deactivated-nukes/

 

[coati]

Try to stay focused.

Will do.

Like a laser beam on a UFO.

 

[BluesDriver66]

Will do.

Like a laser beam on a UFO.

Thanks in advance. Waving your little hard on around for Trump supporters everywhere you go gets annoying.

 

[coati]

Thanks in advance. Waving your little hard on around for Trump supporters everywhere you go gets annoying.

Cut me some slack, B-dive. I'm following orders from the aliens in the flying saucers

 

[BluesDriver66]

Cut me some slack, B-dive. I'm following orders from the aliens in the flying saucers

I appreciate serious people with serious opinions when discussing adult topics. Apparently this is beyond your intellectual capacity. Here's a little something from an informed individual on the subject to help you along.

Navy Astronaut and 6th Man on the Moon Believed in Alien Intervention​

Astronaut Edgar Mitchelll is best known for typing in 80 lines of code to save the entire Apollo 14 mission as it descended to the moon in 1971. But he also claimed that top military officials had hidden evidence of UFOs, potentially alien spacecraft, and that they were particularly fond of hovering over White Sands Testing Range in New Mexico.

Mitchell also told the Mirror that other military personnel had confided in him that alien spacecraft were responsible for disabling nuclear missiles and for shooting them down over the Pacific Coast.

He was a Naval Aviator before attending the Navy’s postgraduate school. He then became a Navy research pilot and earned a PhD in aeronautics and astronautics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He eventually attended the U.S. Air Force Research pilot school to become a test pilot. While he was working to graduate first in his class as a test pilot, he was instructing astronauts in mathematics and navigation.

https://www.military.com/off-duty/navy-astronaut-and-6th-man-moon-believed-alien-intervention.html

 

[BluesDriver66]

UFO = unidentified flying object.

And then you...identify it.

I'm starting to wonder if you're qualified for this discussion.

The point being made zoomed right over your head didn't it. Just go back to dry humping culture war issues and declaring anything you don't understand as the work of "Deplorables". It's the only thing you're good at.

 

[RoryN]

The point being made zoomed right over your head didn't it.

It's not me. Check the responses from other members, bub.

Whatever point you were trying to make in here, the consensus is that you lost the plot. That's on you. It happens frequently to stupid people.