Climate Change Environmentalists Duped By And Colluding With Russians

[pecksniff]

Odd, the Greens don't seem too eager to reveal their funding sources.

The Greens do not appear to have enough funding to make the question interesting.

 

[pecksniff]

Watermelons: Green on the ouside, red on the inside.

I remember reading that in a National Review article in the 1980s.

It has not grown any less stupid with time.

 

[pecksniff]

Disillusioned Communists made their way into Green Parties after the fall of the Soviet Union increasing their political clout manyfold.

Do you have any actual reason to believe they did that? There are still Communist parties in Europe, after all.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

I remember reading that in a National Review article in the 1980s.

It has not grown any less stupid with time.

Same goddamn people.

We were going to do the automation of an LNG terminal that wound up getting cancelled because of all the lawsuits from "environmentalist" groups. It would have provided billions of therms of energy to the world. And now we learn they were on Putin's payroll to do just what they did.

 

[WillJ8787]

I stopped at " we know" because that is always immediately followed by bullshit sping

Climate change is real and should be addressed.

Lol....yep, "we all know" that Rightturd is wrong about most things.

Climate science does not emerge out of eastern European communists....it's absurd!

 

[HisArpy]

You're not offering any knowledge.

You're just bitching about climate change efforts in long form.

You know, here's the thing:

He actually IS "offering knowledge." You don't have to agree with it, but you cannot dismiss it offhand and then say he's the one who isn't trying to inform himself or anyone else.

Basically, if you keep your head up your ass (like you seem to insist on) it won't stick when you tell someone else that they're ignorant.

 

[WillJ8787]

You know, here's the thing:

He actually IS "offering knowledge." You don't have to agree with it, but you cannot dismiss it offhand and then say he's the one who isn't trying to inform himself or anyone else.

Basically, if you keep your head up your ass (like you seem to insist on) it won't stick when you tell someone else that they're ignorant.

Here is the thing....II74 is backed up by 99% of all science research in climatology and environment science. He, like all of us, who understand the climate science, know the world is 2.4 degrees hotter in the last century as a result of hundreds of thousands of date recording sensors planet wide, across all countries, across all political systems in those countries. This very fast change in climate does not correlate with historical climate cycles of warming (or cooling) that happened over tens of thousands of years. How do scientists know this....data ....ice core samples, tree core samples, geological(earth) core sampling, among others.

You can keep you head under the ground like an ostrich....it's fairly easy to do and requires no effort...and it is a convenient tool the right uses.

Also, given you are in the absolutely small minority or folks who are deniers (mostly created by disinformation from wealthy folks(conservative Repubs) who don't want to see their wealth evaporate)....we will just go around you. So, interpret it as authoritarianism as you do...who cares...we are right.

 

[HisArpy]

Here is the thing....II74 is backed up by 99% of all science research in climatology and environment science. He, like all of us, who understand the climate science, know the world is 2.4 degrees hotter in the last century as a result of hundreds of thousands of date recording sensors planet wide, across all countries, across all political systems in those countries. This very fast change in climate does not correlate with historical climate cycles of warming (or cooling) that happened over tens of thousands of years. How do scientists know this....data ....ice core samples, tree core samples, geological(earth) core sampling, among others.

You can keep you head under the ground like an ostrich....it's fairly easy to do and requires no effort...and it is a convenient tool the right uses.

Also, given you are in the absolutely small minority or folks who are deniers (mostly created by disinformation from wealthy folks(conservative Repubs) who don't want to see their wealth evaporate)....we will just go around you. So, interpret it as authoritarianism as you do...who cares...we are right.

Lol.

Climate change isn't "settled science" no matter how much you want to believe the nonsense peddled by those you support while ignoring the data presented by the other side of the debate.

 

[WillJ8787]

Lol.

Climate change isn't "settled science" no matter how much you want to believe the nonsense peddled by those you support while ignoring the data presented by the other side of the debate.

It sure is settled science. It's settled, not just in the USA but through out the Western world and in most other countries. Even China accepts it and is moving towards sustainable energy though it still uses a tremendous amount of fossil fuels

It is not settled only in right wing and extremist segments of the USA, mostly due to mis and disinformation.

And what is not settled...how to go about making the changes in a massive global scale without causing a worse catastrophe then we already are experiencing. That part is still being debated heatedly.

Congratulations!!!! Your are part of that segment...climate denier's. So, the rest of us move on and you and your compadres whine about us(the rest of the world) not listening to you ...whaa, whaa, whaaaa.

To fucking bad.

 

[Rightguide]

You're not offering any knowledge.

You're just bitching about climate change efforts in long form.

You stopped at "I know," remember? This is why you aren't up to snuff on what the subject is. The subject is the findings of a congressional report, but hey, stay dumb and keep saying stupid shit, it wakes up Crazychemgirl.

 

[Rotadom]

You stopped at "I know," remember? This is why you aren't up to snuff on what the subject is. The subject is the findings of a congressional report, but hey, stay dumb and keep saying stupid shit, it wakes up Crazychemgirl.

You said, "we know" and then went on an opinion-based rant.

 

[pecksniff]

Climate change isn't "settled science" no matter how much you want to believe the nonsense peddled by those you support while ignoring the data presented by the other side of the debate.

It is settled science among climatologists. "The other side of the debate" always turns out to be funded by petroleum companies.

 

[pecksniff]

The subject is the findings of a congressional report

The report is about Russian attempts to influence U.S. domestic energy markets by exploiting social media.

Neither Greens nor Communists have much influence with the Russian government.

Congress might well find something if it looked into similar efforts by Saudia Arabia. Russia and SA have the exact same vested interests here -- to keep the U.S. burning fossil fuels, but buying them from elsewhere.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Lol.

Climate change isn't "settled science" no matter how much you want to believe the nonsense peddled by those you support while ignoring the data presented by the other side of the debate.

Climate change is "Settled Science" which is why there is no alternative theory floating around to explain anything that is happening other than rando bulls whit. Maybe its sunspots! Or the Earth tilted on its axis, or we're in a warming cycle (which isn't actually false).

In the end science is never truly settled so that argument gets real old real fast. I've heard of a thing called 'Germ Theory.' Is it your stance that bacteria cause infections and illnesses and viruses not only cause diseases or that both can move from person to person and even animal to person and back again?

I've heard of a theory of evolution. Are you denying that Covid-19 exists or that it has variants that have emerged and will continue to emerge?

 

[LukSkyFokker]

It's absolutely settled science. The only questions are how much did humans contribute and will we ever stop fucking up our house.

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's absolutely settled science. The only questions are how much did humans contribute and will we ever stop fucking up our house.

As I stated above, no such animal as "settled science" exists. I firmly believe that humans are a huge contributing factor here but still.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

As I stated above, no such animal as "settled science" exists. I firmly believe that humans are a huge contributing factor here but still.

Yeah, but you contradicted yourself in the same post.

 

[ll74]

You stopped at "I know," remember? This is why you aren't up to snuff on what the subject is. The subject is the findings of a congressional report, but hey, stay dumb and keep saying stupid shit, it wakes up Crazychemgirl.

Climate change is real, so your attempt to say it's not is ignored.

 

[Rightguide]

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House GOP demands investigation into alleged Russian influence in US environmental groups​

"Unlike the Russia hoax, Putin's malign influence on our energy sector is real and deserves further investigation," Jim Banks said.

As many Americans are seeking an increase in domestic energy output amid skyrocketing prices across the country, Republicans are calling on Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen to investigate if Russian money has financed American environmental groups that advocate against US fossil fuels.

The head of the Republican Study Committee (RSC) has urged Yellen to launch an investigation into whether Russia has a secret funding scheme backing US green groups that have been a barrier to America's bid for energy independence.

Rep. Jim Banks (R-IN) spearheaded a letter Friday addressed to Yellen that cites a Washington Free Beacon report from 2015 that suggested that California-based Sea Change Foundation may be "a conduit for Russian oil interests in funneling money" to groups such as the League of Conservation Voters (LCV), the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC), the Sierra Club, and the Center for American Progress, according to a Fox News exclusive Saturday.


"Russia spent millions promoting anti-energy policies and politicians in the U.S.," Banks declared in a press statement sent to Fox News Digital. "Now, thanks to Biden's war on domestic energy, U.S. oil production has dropped 10%, pushing up prices and enriching and emboldening Putin before he invaded Ukraine."

Banks said that unlike the "Russia hoax," Russian President Vladimir Putin's "malign influence on our energy sector is real and deserves further investigation."

More here:

https://thepostmillennial.com/house...in-us-environmental-groups?utm_campaign=64487

The question is obvious. Why do our enemies always benefit from the policy decisions of the Democrat Party?

 

[ll74]

There was no Russian hoax. The Senate Intelligence committees report is detailed and supported with evidence, regarding the 2016 election

The continued false narrative from the right to rewrite this history is pathetic.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yeah, but you contradicted yourself in the same post.

Quotation marks mean something. Climate change is in the same family as Germ Theory, Gravity, or Evolution.

 

[GeorgeSoros]

Lol.

Climate change isn't "settled science" no matter how much you want to believe the nonsense peddled by those you support while ignoring the data presented by the other side of the debate.

Climate change is as much "settled science" as every other linchpin scientific phenomenon.

 

[pecksniff]

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House GOP demands investigation into alleged Russian influence in US environmental groups​

House GOP demands a lot of things, but rarely anything worth taking seriously.

 

[pecksniff]

The report is about Russian attempts to influence U.S. domestic energy markets by exploiting social media.

Neither Greens nor Communists have much influence with the Russian government.

Congress might well find something if it looked into similar efforts by Saudia Arabia. Russia and SA have the exact same vested interests here -- to keep the U.S. burning fossil fuels, but buying them from elsewhere.

This is worth repeating.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Quotation marks mean something. Climate change is in the same family as Germ Theory, Gravity, or Evolution.

So does articulation. What do you mean?