Another AI Rejection Post (Sorry)

[STrent]

An excerpt should still make sense within itself. These samples are hard to follow, just saying.

Don’t do that. That’s ridiculous to make that claim. They’re perfectly readable, in and of themselves. I just didn’t want to publish the whole thing.

 

[amenarimix]

You sound just a bit like an AI. You wouldn't mind me dunking you in the nearest lake to see if you short-circuit, would you?



I'm only joking.

I'm joking. But others, who say things like that, are not.

One of my students was accused of submitting AI-generated content in another class, and even threatened with disciplinary action for doing it. I found the accusation unlikely, and asked him to write a short essay for me while I watched. Had the essay checked, AFTER I PERSONALLY WATCHED HIM WRITE IT, and I was informed that an AI wrote it. So, that should prove that the test is flawed and can’t be used to accuse him, right?

The other teacher didn’t think so. She thought he deliberately wrote like a bot so that we won't notice it when he uses AI to write his regular school essays. She doesn't believe that any student can be as well-informed or erudite as he is, when fifteen seconds of speaking to him should confirm the fact.

So... I guess that's just where we're heading. If you're not a semi-literate ignoramus, you will automatically arouse the suspicion of those who are. If you can physically prove that you're not using an AI in your writing, they’ll suspect that you *are* the AI. What do you do then? Take the Voight-Kampff test?

Here is the main problem people don't get it. Students are not that good the way AI write. Nobody had any problems with grammar tools until chatgpt. When I was an computer science student, I got zero bonus mark for my good writing and zero penalty for bad writing. Nobody cares how you write your answer.

Teachers used to courage us to use Google and put more information in the assignments. Now due to chatgpt it's easy to find the information you need. So how can we stop students stop using AI? Make another AI who will detect is it human writing or not, bravo.

I know how this shit works and how it's made. The total system is broken. Yeap students are lazy but guess what so as the teachers. They are both using AI and complaining eachother.

Just change the evaluation system. Work hard and find a way to examine your students. How can you be so sure that AI writing detector giving you the right answer.

Just write a paragraph and put it in the best AI detector. Damn sure it'll come out as an AI writing more than 60% of times.

 

[nice90sguy]

You're clearly not an AI, but the word "kinder" stood out

English is my first language! I have German speaking characters.

Ok. Now I'm really having trouble understanding how you mistyped "kids" as "kinder" in your story. It just seems a really weird mistake for a native English speaker to make.

 

[STrent]

Ok. Now I'm really having trouble understanding how you mistyped "kids" as "kinder" in your story. It just seems a really weird mistake for a native English speaker to make.

I am trying to make it sound like a German native speaker speaking English.

That incudes using the German form of words in an English sentence.

It’s more accurate and more likely than saying “kids”.

It wasn’t a mistype, it was a deliberate editorial decision.

Where “kinder” was used, it was being said by a German native speaker.

For clarity:

Hans is Austrian. His first language is German. In speaking to Sam (British), he speaks English. His English is not perfect, so some German words filter in. Like kinder.

This is normal in the world.

That’s why I wrote it like that.

Deliberately.

 

[cadeauxxx]

The problem is they're using it the wrong way. AI writes like a human, not an alien. So, if you're good at writing, you'll be flagged most of the time. It's disgusting when they say my trashy writing is AI-written. You shouldn't use an AI detector here in the first place. To sort out bad stories, you need to read them yourself. If I use AI to write a story, then my stories will be so much better due to a good writing style. It still makes no sense who brought this idea. I mean, AI writes like us. We train them to write like this. They didn't innovate it, duh.

I completely agree, and have made this same retort on this forum many times. Every AI generator is trained with LLMs that are mined of documents on the internet. There are LLMs that are compiled of databases from this very site, which is the reason authors are being flagged.

I've been flagged multiple times, but more recently have been having more success getting stories through without problems.

My advice to help others is to keep a thesaurus handy and to do multiple checks and re-edits on stories, changing out adjectives. You want to try and avoid overusing specific words. It tends to pick up when the same words are used in descriptions for something. Another trick I found is to check your sentence structure, and try to avoid repeating the same sentences. I think the AI detection tools they are using are focused on picking up patterns in writing, which would explain why it's tripping on this.

 

[ZackRiley]

I completely agree, and have made this same retort on this forum many times. Every AI generator is trained with LLMs that are mined of documents on the internet. There are LLMs that are compiled of databases from this very site, which is the reason authors are being flagged.

I've been flagged multiple times, but more recently have been having more success getting stories through without problems.

My advice to help others is to keep a thesaurus handy and to do multiple checks and re-edits on stories, changing out adjectives. You want to try and avoid overusing specific words. It tends to pick up when the same words are used in descriptions for something. Another trick I found is to check your sentence structure, and try to avoid repeating the same sentences. I think the AI detection tools they are using are focused on picking up patterns in writing, which would explain why it's tripping on this.

Had a bit of A look into the writer.com/ai-content-detector/ and what parts of my writing are setting off that detector.
For a specific section of 500 words it returned the following result after about 10 minutes of messing around trying to work out what triggered it I found one of the culprits to be the following.

"re-shifted" - with this word it returned a 98% human written.
If I change it to reshifted then the passage would return 99% human written.
but if I change the word to "shifted" then it would change my passage of text to 97% human written.

Hopefully someone finds this information useful.

 

[Thanatos_X13]

Welp, 14 days after resubmitting, I am not surprised to have been rejected for AI again. Per their message, Literotica checked my story multiple times and it came back as the majority was written by AI. I honestly don't have the words to express the sheer absurdity of having a machine tell a human that their work was created by another machine - machines that have stolen our work in the first place. "We stole everything humanity has ever written and now we get to claim you're copying our homework."

So, again, I have basically no recourse. There is no way for me to convince them that my work is my own. Their suggestion is to work with an editor, but since the editors have no idea what's being flagged as AI either, how is that supposed to make a difference? Not to mention, this is not some paid gig. We all do this for free. I'll go through extra effort when submitting my non-erotic works to paying mags, but turning my fun side hobby into a massive chore just to try and circumvent an AI from falsely identifying my work as also being AI is not worth it. My work is at least as good as most other works here, and was good enough to get published the 1st time around. I'm not being rejected on quality or merit, but by the theft-robot.

I have yet to decide what I'll do next, but I am leaning towards just packing it up and saying fuck this place.

Also, if you're curious and want to judge for yourself, here's my 1st chapter, written in exactly the same style: https://literotica.com/s/immoral-counseling-ch-01

 

[fabfables]

The point about 'AI' checkers is that they are black boxes. No one understands how they do whatever they do, so it is impossible to say 'change this' except in the most generic way. They are not AI either, but that's a different problem. I haven't submitted anything since before 'AI' became a thing, so never had it happen to me. I'm waiting to hear on the first couple of parts of a new series. It's never been near Grammarly or anything but a spell checker, but we'll see.

 

[Thanatos_X13]

The point about 'AI' checkers is that they are black boxes. No one understands how they do whatever they do, so it is impossible to say 'change this' except in the most generic way. They are not AI either, but that's a different problem. I haven't submitted anything since before 'AI' became a thing, so never had it happen to me. I'm waiting to hear on the first couple of parts of a new series. It's never been near Grammarly or anything but a spell checker, but we'll see.

I agree. I hope it goes well for your current submissions and you don't face any issues. I've decided to give it one more try, almost as an experiment to figure out what's triggering the AI flag.