Gor-

Ok, So those of you that are familiar with the Gor Fantasies...

let me post this question to you.

A supervisor of mine.. Well not direct, but definetly a supervisor recently lent me a couple Gor books....... Is this appropriate?

No......................Sounds like harrasment to me.......

I think it depends on your relationship with that supervisor. I have had friendships that existed outside of work with supervisors in which something like this would not have bothered me. On the other hand, I have had supervisors that were strictly business and those books would have been completely inappropriate.

I know there is a definition for sexual harassment in the workplace, which I cannot remember now. I think you need to refer to your company's employee manual and think about the context of the lending of the books. Remember, whatever steps either of you take from this point forward could have lasting effects on both of you. Also, while neither of you might be offended by the books, co-workers you share this with could be and therefore harassed by your conversations with them. I found it best to leave lifestyle issues out of the workplace.

Good luck

Alley Cat said:

Ok, So those of you that are familiar with the Gor Fantasies...

let me post this question to you.

A supervisor of mine.. Well not direct, but definetly a supervisor recently lent me a couple Gor books....... Is this appropriate?

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I think we ought to remember that we who are kinky see things thru a kink colored lens. It is possible that the person who gave you the books thinks they are just cool fantasy novels and doesn't understand the conotations they have in BDSM circles. But even so, it seems to me to be at least borderline as far as sexual harrassment goes.

Alley Cat said:

Ok, So those of you that are familiar with the Gor Fantasies...

let me post this question to you.

A supervisor of mine.. Well not direct, but definetly a supervisor recently lent me a couple Gor books....... Is this appropriate?

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Why would it not be?

You do not give us enough information to really answer.

Richard
Michigan

Funny Related Story

Hey,
I'm new at this so I don't know if it's appropriate to share a story I find amusing, but when I was younger, working at (yes, sigh) McDonalds, a regular customer whom I joked with once came in to the store. He had, in his hand, a Gor book, which he was obviously trying to hide. Painfully familiar with the series (I was younger!) I grinned at him and said "Gor, Eh?" to which he blushed a horrid shade of red and ran away. I'm sorry, it was really funny though.

Unless your boss wants you to live out the fantasies in those novels, I think that it is appropriate...I think.

Funny Related Story

Hey,
I'm new at this so I don't know if it's appropriate to share a story I find amusing, but when I was younger, working at (yes, sigh) McDonalds, a regular customer whom I joked occassionally came in to the store for yet another hearty McDonalds meal. He had, in his hand, a Gor book, which he was obviously trying to hide. Painfully familiar with the series (I was younger!) I grinned at him and said "Gor, Eh?" to which he blushed a horrid shade of red and ran away. I'm sorry, it was really funny though.

Unless your boss wants you to live out the fantasies in those novels, I think that it is appropriate...I think.

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Richard49 said:

Why would it not be?

You do not give us enough information to really answer.

Richard
Michigan

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Yeah, what he said.

pleasure/pain

__________________
~ There is a fine line between pleasure and pain.
Shall we explore that line together? ~

"You both want the heart
and the bodies that go with them.
The passion, the fear, the joy,
the embrace, the yearning...
The quenching of the Soul."
~J.A.G.~
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I just hope someone is right.....coz right now "I" ain't yet found one bit of pleasure....it's all.....pain to me...
oh Mistress....I'm due in california soon.....I hear you calling..



mad dog in iowa

This was another subject I've been rather confused on. I did a search on Gor and found really interesting but bizarre sites. Couldn't make any sense out of 'em, except that it's obviously imaginary. Is it all just literary works, or do people pretend that they actually live in this world, a la Society for Creative Anachronism?

Gor website

The Gor novels, along with the Natural order theory, have been the basis for an online/offline Gorean community.

I know a bit about Gor and I also have a close friend that is a Gorean FreeWoman.
If you want more information, I can direct you to other wonderful websites and clubs.

raindancer said:

Gor website

The Gor novels, along with the Natural order theory, have been the basis for an online/offline Gorean community.

I know a bit about Gor and I also have a close friend that is a Gorean FreeWoman.
If you want more information, I can direct you to other wonderful websites and clubs.

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I would be interested in info about Gorean lifstyle.

sites

Gor website

The Gor novels, along with the Natural order theory, have been the basis for an online/offline Gorean community.

I know a bit about Gor and I also have a close friend that is a Gorean FreeWoman.
If you want more information, I can direct you to other wonderful websites and clubs.

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okay....I gotta ask....does the gorean style include the male slave also??? that,.."I" would..like to see....if you please???

thank you..\
mad dog

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iamaddog said:

Gor website

okay....I gotta ask....does the gorean style include the male slave also??? that,.."I" would..like to see....if you please???

thank you..\
mad dog

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I just went to the website posted above and read through several articles, sorting through my feelings of outrage and disgust, etc, etc, and in short, no, no male submissives. They exist but they are not part of the Gorean lifestyle. Only females, and all females. Sorry.

The Monster/Mega/Mother thread has info on Gor sprinkled throughout as we discussed it at least twice over the months the thread was active.

Here's a bit that was posted on August 13, 2001, on from page 7:

willfulbrat said:

My first D/s experience was Gorean. The problem that mainstream BDSM community's have with Gor, especially RL Gorean relationships, is that Goreans do not follow the "Safe, Sane, and Consentual" creed. In mainstream BDSM, submissives are generally allowed to negotiate a scene (set their hard limits) and given a safeword should the play go beyond their tolerance.

In Gorean-style D/s, the submissives are slaves and there are no safewords. The Masters do whatever they choose to their slaves and the slave has no say whatsoever (unless she/he has an unusually kind Master). Safewords are not used in Gor.

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SteamyChik, our resident Gorean expert for a while (anyone know what happened to her?) posted about Gor on page 8 (http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39661&perpage=20&pagenumber=8), on page 9 in more depth (http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39661&perpage=20&pagenumber=9), and then again, in quite a lot of detail, on page 10 (http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39661&perpage=20&pagenumber=10).

Go have a look if you're interested in the perspective of someone like the rest of us here who also happened to be living as a 24/7 Gorean slave to someone with whom she'd had a 20+ year relationship.

Welp.. I am just finished book 5 of the series.. definetly has me hooked... and I spoke to the supervisor in depth, and have become friends with him... He's a great person.

I was a little intimidated by him, at first...But its fine now.. He actually gives great relationship advice.

as far as the gorean lifestyle goes.. it sounds very much interesting.. and i hope to someday experience it.

Gor

I have been reading the Gor books for a long time. I think I have about 16 of them. They made for interesting and fun reading. I liked the simplicity of the stories. Bottom line is that the men and the women were their true selves in the end and the hero always got the girl.

Here are more informative links;

Jagged Dagger


Gorean Falls

Kefira's slave pages

Thank you

raindancer said:

Here are more informative links;

Jagged Dagger


Gorean Falls

Kefira's slave pages

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Thank you !!!!!

You are very welcome, Richard.

My thoughts on Gor are that I dont dispute anybodys right to use whatever pattern for their lifestyle they might want. However we also have to remember that there is a place where reality has to be considered. You can pretend that someone is really your slave and that you can do with them whatever you wish, beat them at your will, give them away, etc. but you better remember that the county sherriff is not going to say "Oh, you are Gorean, so its OK" Some Goreans, not all but some, have a problem with losing sight of that fact.

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James Blandings said:

I think we ought to remember that we who are kinky see things thru a kink colored lens. It is possible that the person who gave you the books thinks they are just cool fantasy novels and doesn't understand the conotations they have in BDSM circles. But even so, it seems to me to be at least borderline as far as sexual harrassment goes.

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A voice of reason. I love the Gor books. But I read them first as a Fantasy novel, I had no idea what BDSM was. I was 13 and had bought a box of books at a yard sale and 2 of the books were in it. My mom almost shit when I finished them and asked if she wanted to read them.

Gorean fantasy as real life

To say honestly what I think about Gor (books and roleplaying) would offend some people, so I will refrain. I am a r/l submissive, and I do know a few current and former "Goreans". I even read an entire book in 1980 or '81 (it was loaned to my husband by a maleslut friend of his, lol), so I do have some knowledge of what the concept behind them is.
If you find it meaningful to take on the roles from the books, great. Have fun. But, if anyone (Gorean or not) tells you that they "do not believe in" SSC, run! You could find yourself not being Dominated, but abused and possibly injured, mentally and/or physically.
I enjoy power exchange very much, but I do not enjoy being objectified and demeaned, even in the "pretend" sense. I recognize that that sort of interaction appeals to some people, and I respect everyone's right to do what works for them. Happy playing! _lisa_

Lisa!!! Glad to see you posting here. *huggggggg*

Anyone who hasn't seen lisa's stories yet, they are a real treat!

Re: Gorean fantasy as real life

Originally posted by _lisa_ I am a r/l submissive

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Welcome lisa, to this forum. I think you'll find as you continue to interact with those already here that many of us have reallife experience with BDSM practices, and even more of us are preparing to take that step. This isn't at all a place for online BDSM fantasy.

I do know a few current and former "Goreans". I even read an entire book in 1980 or '81 (it was loaned to my husband by a maleslut friend of his, lol), so I do have some knowledge of what the concept behind them is.

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I, too, read the books, all of them, as a young teenager. At the time i wasn't even sexually active but the images in them called seductively to my emerging sexuality and whispered of heated interactions that were *so* much more appealing (in a fuzzy, 14 year old girl manner) than the info i was getting from sneaking reads into my parents copy of The Joy of Sex.

At one time last year, we had a resident Gorean here at Lit. She was in a 20+ year marriage and her husband was also her Gorean master. Her perspectives on actually living the life of a Gorean slavegirl are exceedingly interesting.

As we discussed it here, i think all involved could see that there were far fewer differences between mainstream BDSM and the Gorean brand than we thought. After all, what goes on in online chatrooms barely resembles real BDSM, does it? The same is true - even truer, really - for online Gorean BDSM practices.

If you find it meaningful to take on the roles from the books, great. Have fun.

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Hey! Roleplaying can be a blast! Earlier this week, i did a morning-long session involving me as a recalcitrant student and him as a stern administrator about to expell me for cheating. I'm not sure i'd do very well as a kajira but let's not down role plays.

I enjoy power exchange very much, but I do not enjoy being objectified and demeaned, even in the "pretend" sense. I recognize that that sort of interaction appeals to some people, and I respect everyone's right to do what works for them.

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I don't much like being demeaned either, not even in play. It puts my head into a bad place and stops me cold. Some do, though. Some like diapers. Some like being puppies, too, or ponies. Some people like needles. Some people even like switching on occasion! Man. Talk about sexual freaks... I mean, uh, it takes all kinds, right?

Live and let live is my attitude, as long as it's SSC between those involved then all is well. If i don't like it, i won't look.