Justice: The Liberal Version

Unclebill

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Michelle Malkin wrote this article on an incident that is now about a month old. Since it is a race based hate crime, where is the outrage of the mass media?

Where are the Jesse Jacksons, the Al Sharptons, the Hillary Clintons, the Algores, et al? Where is their outrage and their clamoring for heads to roll?

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin.html

Or is justice for hate crimes reserved only for certain very select perpetrators?
 
Unclebill said:
Michelle Malkin wrote this article on an incident that is now about a month old. Since it is a race based hate crime, where is the outrage of the mass media?

Where are the Jesse Jacksons, the Al Sharptons, the Hillary Clintons, the Algores, et al? Where is their outrage and their clamoring for heads to roll?

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin.html

Or is justice for hate crimes reserved only for certain very select perpetrators?

Yeah, we need a media outrage over every fucking little crime ever. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Hi UncleBill!!

Love this topic and the article was interesting, to say the least.

"Segregation is back all right. But while the media elite's crack reporters are busy rummaging through the dustbins of old history in an effort to paint all conservatives as racially insensitive relics, they continue to ignore one of the outrageous race scandals of the 21st century: how the young beneficiaries of the civil rights movement are squandering and desecrating its legacy of equal respect and justice for all."

When the "news" does not fit the media's agenda, it is blatantly ignored. What a pathetic example this article illustrates. As a former member (albiet on the fringes) of journalism, it is shameful to me.
 
I have a better idea.

NIGGER. KIKE. HEEB. CHINK. WOP.

Let's put the media on me for 57 hrs why don't we?

Not all things are equal. Discrimination/Racism in the senate is a bigger fish to fry than what might be just two guys with less than 2 point GPAs.

Bet it's making the news pretty big in miss.
 
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Spinaroonie said:
Yeah, we need a media outrage over every fucking little crime ever. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


What a narrow-minded, if not close-minded attitude, Spin.

If the criminals had been white, they would have been inprisoned, but because they aren't, they will get a little slap on the wrist. Don't you see the double standard? Or are you color blind?
 
UncleJ

Sorry, I didnt see you start this thread......and I started a similiar one>:eek:
 
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Texan said:
What a narrow-minded, if not close-minded attitude, Spin.

If the criminals had been white, they would have been inprisoned, but because they aren't, they will get a little slap on the wrist. Don't you see the double standard? Or are you color blind?

I see the difference. I'm saying we don't need a media explosion.

P.S. Should we arrest black people who say the N-word now?
 
How anyone cannot see the injustice in this episode is beyond me.

And again, as Bill asked, where is the black leadership in all this? I don't see or hear them beating down the print or television media doors to condemn this "prank."
 
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Spinaroonie said:
I see the difference. I'm saying we don't need a media explosion.

P.S. Should we arrest black people who say the N-word now?

I have Texan on ignore...don't quote him.

Really---I'm just too lazy to turn him off ignore, that and he doesn't say anything I don't already know or am interested in

GWB rattles up a war and is the great American hero. Maybe these dudes were rattling up a march with some vandalism---you're right they shouldn't need the vandalism to march. I'm wondering why they feel the need to be a catalyst---you know, since everything in their lives are already equal.
 
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Spinaroonie said:
I see the difference. I'm saying we don't need a media explosion.

P.S. Should we arrest black people who say the N-word now?

Spin, your P.S. is a very good question. When the use and meaning of the word is intended to cause physical harm, (ie, action vs. expression) then I don't care what the race of the "perpatrator" is. They shoud be prosecuted. In the case cited, the criminals were trying to make it look as though white studends had committed a race crime. In the process, they were "inciting riot," and "providing false testimony" to investigators. They are criminals. They were also using race as a means of harrassment. That is also a crime.

The reason this should have been reported in major media is not about the crimes themselves, but rather to point out the double standard that was advocated by civil rights advocacy groups and even the university itself. Compare the reaction of the media to this situation and the media's reaction to the words of Trent Lott. Liberals will say the major difference is in the "position" of the perpatrator, while Conservatives will say the major difference is the race of the perpatrators. Truth is, they are BOTH the major differences.
 
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70/30 said:
I have Texan on ignore...don't quote him.

Really---I'm just too lazy to turn him off ignore, that and he doesn't say anything I don't already know or am interested in

GWB rattles up a war and is the great American hero. Maybe these dudes were rattling up a march with some vandalism---you're right they shouldn't need the vandalism to march. I'm wondering why they feel the need to be a catalyst---you know, since everything in their lives are already equal.

If you have me on ignore, then you won't see me calling you the single most ignorant little pissant on the board. That's not name calling. That's just a statement of simple and obvious fact.
 
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Texan said:
If you have me on ignore, then you won't see me calling you the single most ignorant little pissant on the board. That's not name calling. That's just a statement of simple and obvious fact.


unless someone quotes you.

:)
 
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Originally posted by Spinaroonie
I see the difference. I'm saying we don't need a media explosion.

P.S. Should we arrest black people who say the N-word now?
Oh, perish the very unPolitically Correct suggestion that justice should be blind to the color of the perp's skin. How very foolish and insensitive of me.

I do find it a curious question though as to why, once the perps were identified, suddenly the cries for Federal hate crime prosecution were quickly hushed.

Somehow, when the perps didn't fit the PROFILE (that nasty practice which the Liberals can't stand), the fervor for justice was suddenly severely tempered.
 
Set up a pay pal for a 50 pound bag of pretzels and advertise it in your sig---enough for a life supply you'll have.
 
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Unclebill said:
Oh, perish the very unPolitically Correct suggestion that justice should be blind to the color of the perp's skin. How very foolish and insensitive of me.

I do find it a curious question though as to why, once the perps were identified, suddenly the cries for Federal hate crime prosecution were quickly hushed.

Somehow, when the perps didn't fit the PROFILE (that nasty practice which the Liberals can't stand), the fervor for justice was suddenly severely tempered.

I'm not saying things have been done correctly here, I'm just saying that a media explosion isn't nessecary.

And Texan.. stop comparing it to Lott. There's a difference between a future Senate Majority Leader and somebody who things Johnny Knoxville is a legitimate actor.
 
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Spinaroonie said:
I'm not saying things have been done correctly here, I'm just saying that a media explosion isn't nessecary.

And Texan.. stop comparing it to Lott. There's a difference between a future Senate Majority Leader and somebody who things Johnny Knoxville is a legitimate actor.


Spin, that's EXACTLY the whole point. The injustice isn't in the crime, but rather in the double standard being applied by "the media." In these cases, the media is simply representative of society as a whole. Our current PC social environment has created a very special class of "sin" called racism. But unfairly, it is a sin that can only be committed by whites; actually, only white males. Racism has become the most deadly sin there is, and "hell" is the most segregated community on the planet.
 
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Texan said:
Spin, that's EXACTLY the whole point. The injustice isn't in the crime, but rather in the double standard being applied by "the media." In these cases, the media is simply representative of society as a whole. Our current PC social environment has created a very special class of "sin" called racism. But unfairly, it is a sin that can only be committed by whites; actually, only white males. Racism has become the most deadly sin there is, and "hell" is the most segregated community on the planet.

Well first of all, the media isn't the ones prosecuting these guys. I think you guys's hearts are in the right place, but you're pointing your fingers in the wrong direction. It's the ADMINISTRATION that needs to be taking the fire. It's the POLICE that need to be chastized for their decisions.

And who knows, this may break and we'll get more sensationalism about race than already.

Say what you will about Michael Moore, he has some great comentary on the meida in bowling For Columbine.
 
You know what this hate crime/speech shit makes me realize?


What you say or think is more important than what you do.


Words and thoughts carry more weight than actions.


Scary.


While I think Lott was a fucking idiot for not controlling his mouth, all he did was say something really stupid.

Our last President gets a blowjob in the Oval Office? No problem!
 
I'm just getting started on this topic, because of course, I try to find other stories. My first hit on google for "University of Mississippi", "racism" & "hate crime" dealt with things that occurred on this university campus last year at Halloween. We'll begin here in this post, my next post will tell more.

ADL Outraged by Reports of Bigotry and Prejudice at Three Colleges Says It Highlights The Need for Anti-Bias Education, Applauds Actions of Auburn University President
New York, N.Y., November 16, 2001 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today said it was outraged by reports of fraternities at the University of Mississippi, Auburn University and the University of Louisville hosting Halloween theme parties that featured members dressing in full Ku Klux Klan regalia and blackening their faces to simulate mock lynchings.

"While we applaud the actions of the presidents of these schools, particularly the actions of Auburn University president William Walker, these outrageous displays of prejudice are very disturbing," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "These incidents highlight the need for the higher education community to use all available anti-bias resources to fight this type of hatred in order to begin the healing process on campus."

Reaction to the incidents varied by campus. At Auburn University, in Alabama, President Walker indefinitely suspended 15 students who allegedly attended two separate Halloween parties, one hosted by Beta Theta Pi and the other by Delta Sigma Pi. Additional measures taken by the University include:



disbanding both fraternities and revoking their campus charters
the formation of a taskforce that ultimately seeks to establish a multicultural center on campus
instructing the provost's office to expand course offerings on tolerance and diversity in Auburn's curricula, possibly concentrating on mandatory courses in the core curriculum
At the University of Mississippi, Chancellor Robert Khayat suspended the Alpha Tau Omega fraternity for participating in a similar Halloween party, from which a photograph was circulated depicting one member dressed as a white policeman holding a gun on another member in blackface kneeling and pretending to pick cotton. The suspension prohibits the group from meeting or conducting social activities until November 2002 and shuts the campus fraternity house at the end of the fall 2001 semester. A public apology was issued by the fraternity in the campus newspaper and all campus fraternities and sororities will undergo sensitivity training.

The University of Louisville's Tau Kappa Epsilon fraternity faced similar punishment upon the discovery by university officials of a similar party and photographs being circulated. The fraternity publicly apologized to the Louisville community and further punishments are pending on an investigation.

Three ADL Regional offices reached out to the affected campuses and provided its newly published Responding to Bigotry and Intergroup Strife on Campus: Guide for College and University Administrators. The guide was sent to 2,000 campuses nationwide this past September and offers direction and first-hand advice to administrators who are faced with fighting hatred on their campus. To view a copy, please go to www.adl.org/campus/guide/.

The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry.
 
Originally posted by miles
You know what this hate crime/speech shit makes me realize?


What you say or think is more important than what you do.


Words and thoughts carry more weight than actions.


Scary.


While I think Lott was a fucking idiot for not controlling his mouth, all he did was say something really stupid.

Our last President gets a blowjob in the Oval Office? No problem!
Nor were the felonies he committed, apparently. Had he been a Conservative Republican, however, the result would have been strikingly different as demonstrated in the Bob Packwood case.
 
miles said:
While I think Lott was a fucking idiot for not controlling his mouth, all he did was say something really stupid.

And consistently make the same comments. And consistently vote against the interests of over 1million African-American Mississippians that he supposedly represents. His stance doesn't represent the majority of Republicans in America---or maybe it does---we'll see who they choose as their legislative leader.
 
UncleBill, comparing Clinton and Packwood is like apples and oranges. There were 29 women who came out with charges against Packwood. There were 2 that went beyond harassment to include actual assault.

Yeah, Clinton was JUST like Mr. Packwood. We overreacted to what Packwood did - sure.
 
It's apparent from his post that fact is his last concern if it's a concern at all.
 
lavender said:
I'm just getting started on this topic, because of course, I try to find other stories. My first hit on google for "University of Mississippi", "racism" & "hate crime" dealt with things that occurred on this university campus last year at Halloween. We'll begin here in this post, my next post will tell more.
It wasn't but a little more than one month ago that five white students at the University of Tennessee were expelled for donning blackface to dress as the Jackson 5 for Halloween.

These jokers cause $600 worth of vandalism, nearly incite a race riot, and they may face disciplinary action?

If an anthrax hoax is a crime, surely this should be as well.

TB4p
 
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