Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

Yes, I hated the BDSMers Jerry had on his show as much as I hated the woman who was leaving her boyfriend for her aunt. If you missed the show (maybe missed is the wrong word) a dominatrix comes out and tells Jerry men pay her to train and ride them. Yes, that's with a bridle and saddle. She does so for the audience with a fellow she brought for demonstration and then comes the emotional hook. The man is getting married and he's going to tell his wife to be a... well, I guess you'd call him a manhorse.

The wife-to-be comes out goes through confusion, denial, bargaining and finally anger while the domme pours her vitriol onto the flames. The wife-to-be flies at the domme who shows that a woman in spiked boots with a riding crop isn't the best target and chanting starts as bouncers clear the stage for the next show.

Now, what positive aspect can I find in this, you ask? Well, two unrelated items. I watched this brouhaha at college in a friend's dorm room and some point before the fighting began the girl I was watching with asked me how BDSMers meet one another. (I just realized why it might be so hard for me to get a date on campus) I launched into an explanation of www.alt.com, the BDSM section found in the personals in major cities, and munches. If there had been no Jerry, there would have been no question. I'm guessing it's much harder to work in a question about BDSM during an episode of Friends anyway.

The second 'positive' aspect concerns a Law & Order episode I watched. If you missed it (there's that word again) the story concerns a dominatrix who has a sub murdered. The Dominatrix exhibits morbid/sadistic art for a living and, when told by the police that another sub hung himself, asks, "Did he take any pictures?"

The domme on the Jerry show wasn't a murderer; she's the bitch that took your man. And what she does isn't threatening; she's shown right after the human burrito woman who strips down to her underwear, lays on giant tortilla and has salsa, guacamole, and refried beans poured on her. Just remember, many younger people watch this show... and that's just too scary to think about.

Okay, you've been moved from being the Ogre in the tower to the badly dressed dwarf jester. It's shitty but at least you're in the castle!

*Wandering back to the GB wondering what the hell I started this for*

PS: Just so you know, you can pick more than one answer.

That probably won't make it over here for weeks/months yet.

While I do agree that the bringing up of BDSM with your friend is probably not a bad thing....I can't see Jerry Springer having a positive influence on anything, much less the BDSM lifestyle. Personally I can't stand to watch his show, but that's just me.

dixi

the jerry springer show is trash, total garbage, i never watch.

but i did see the law and order you were referring to, it really bothered me. and i couldnt express my feelings to my roomate, who has no idea about the life-style. she thought they were " bizarre freaks and sickos". i watched the show getting more and more dismayed and angry, but what can you expect from the media who likes to over-dramatize and create controversies.

i just told myself, "im not like that and those people are just silly stereotypical characters created for ratings boost and a shock effect". its too bad that tv has to mkae things harder than they allready are. the reason people cant accept bdsm or are afraid or disgusted, is because they dont understand and the've only been fed lies and stereotypes all their lives. if they could see the life-style for what it really is, many couples would find that lots of the activites associated with bdsm, they enjoy on a regular basis.

its the same way that lesbians often in films turn out ot be psychotic murderers or confused bisexuals

I have seen his show only a couple of times, and now I just don't watch Springer. And if I had to choose between watching Springer or eating the television set, I'd gladly eat the television set knowing I took the path of least nausea.

I don't see how anything on that show is going to be perceived as anything but a shameful joke the way it is inevitably going to be portrayed.

Bad Idea!

I have not seen that particular Jerry show but I have seen some like it in the past.

I think it's really bad mojo. It perpetuates the stereotype that we are freaks, wierdos or worse.

The vanilla public needs to see people who are articulate, educated, intelligent, passionate, kind and considerate. (like us!)

Several Law and Order episodes have dealt with various aspects of our lifestyle and some have been surprisingly even handed.

BTW: Did anyone see a movie a few years ago called "The General's Daughter" ? (She had a dungeon in her basement)

I resented the way her sexual activities were portrayed.

After all, a girl has to have hobbies!

I think I'm seeing some overly optimistic attitudes on how public biases and media portrayals change over time. No one is ever going to show BDSMers as 'articulate, educated, intelligent, passionate, kind and considerate' until we have portrayals that don't include us killing each other. Blacks/Japanese/Jews and gays all had to go through a period of being nothing more than jokes before they could become non-threatening.

Yes, Jerry Springer shows this community, as being freaks and wackos but the entire human race is freakish on the show – that's the point. And, sorry to say, I've yet to be a more positive depiction of the lifestyle.

Just try to remember the camel's nose peeps.

i'm sorry... camel's nose?

It's an Arabian fable.
A man is traveling through the desert on his camel and stops to set up camp for the night. He's asleep in his tent when he's awaked by the sound of the camel bleating outside his tent. While the man was asleep the temperature had dropped and the camel was trying to get into the tent.

The man refused to let the camel in and fell back asleep. He awakes again later that night to see that the camel has stuck his nose into the tent. Instead of getting up and pushing the camel away he figures it won't do any harm letting the nose in so he falls back asleep.

Later, he awakes again to see the camel has stuck its head in. This doesn’t bother the man because it's just a head and he falls back asleep. Again he wakes up. This time it's just the camel's head and neck, back asleep.

As the night goes on the camel slowly moves into the tent and when daybreak comes the camel is sleeping inside while the man sleeps on the cold ground outside.

Usually this is where the story ends. On occasion it ends with the man waking up at dawn and beating the camel.

I've been thinking and I'm probably the optimist in this thread. Consider it dropped.

ohhhhh, gotcha. thanx for the explanation.

The House always wins. Springer doesn't get ratings by portraying anything in a positive light. It's probably a wash. It's good to throw it in societies face, but bad when it is reduced to a circus.

I'm posting because Never said so.

Moon

My alltime favorite episode of Jerry was the one where the guy had this weird vomiting fetish and liked to spew over his partner during sex.




Ha.
He'd never wanna complain about her not swallowin huh?

Never said:

I think I'm seeing some overly optimistic attitudes on how public biases and media portrayals change over time. No one is ever going to show BDSMers as 'articulate, educated, intelligent, passionate, kind and considerate' until we have portrayals that don't include us killing each other. Blacks/Japanese/Jews and gays all had to go through a period of being nothing more than jokes before they could become non-threatening.

Yes, Jerry Springer shows this community, as being freaks and wackos but the entire human race is freakish on the show – that's the point. And, sorry to say, I've yet to be a more positive depiction of the lifestyle.

Just try to remember the camel's nose peeps.

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Actually, I remember Phil Donahue doing a show on bdsm that was reasonably fair, back on his old day time show. But I agree with your overall point.

AusTess said:

My alltime favorite episode of Jerry was the one where the guy had this weird vomiting fetish and liked to spew over his partner during sex.




Ha.
He'd never wanna complain about her not swallowin huh?

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Ha!
Roman showers. See, yous all thought I was nuts when I told you people done that.

CarolineOh
" Actually, I remember Phil Donahue doing a show on bdsm that was reasonably fair, back on his old day time show. But I agree with your overall point."
Hmm, someone is agreeing with me. This is cause for a celebration.
What happened on the Donahue show?


MzChrista:
"Ha!
Roman showers. See, yous all thought I was nuts when I told you people done that."
That's right. The wealthy Romans used to feast themselves until they were stuffed, stick a peacock's feather down their throat until they vomited, and start up with the meal again. They even had some sort of saying about that..

Never said:

CarolineOh
" Actually, I remember Phil Donahue doing a show on bdsm that was reasonably fair, back on his old day time show. But I agree with your overall point."
Hmm, someone is agreeing with me. This is cause for a celebration.
What happened on the Donahue show?


MzChrista:
"Ha!
Roman showers. See, yous all thought I was nuts when I told you people done that."
That's right. The wealthy Romans used to feast themselves until they were stuffed, stick a peacock's feather down their throat until they vomited, and start up with the meal again. They even had some sort of saying about that..

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veni vidi vomiti

Probably 95% of the audience that watch Jerry Springer realize that the show is aimed at nothing more than ratings. I don't think any of the "guests" do damage to the serious proponents of whatever lifestyle is being presented with those viewers.

The damage is done with the 5% of viewers who believe the "guests" are real.

The guests aren't real?

NO!!!!!!

As a reletively new memeber to the bdsm community i would not want to get any exposure to bdsm by means of JERRY!

it is a communty totaly different to what is generaly accepted to be
The general population have a perception of sick and perverted although i must say it is a very caring community!

Jerry's show will only bring the "nasty" out and it will not create the correct perspective.

It took me 15 years to do some research as it has alway's been my perspective that there is something realy wrong with me for having a facination with bdsm until i accidently stumbled on to this forum and boy did it open my eyes!

Keep this as far away from old Jerry as it is possible, it will just enforce the perceptions i had of this lifestyle!

i watch his show, but not on a daily basis. once in a while i need a good laugh. its only a matter of time before he gets canceled. how many people can be left that are going top leave their wife/husband/lovers for their fathers or mothers or siblings. makes me wonder if these people are up and coming actors/actresses.

He may run forever!

Jerry Springer may be on TV for years cause he has found the key to TV success.

He has found the Rainbow Coalition of trailer trash!

Ebony

very true he does find some real winners. but is there that many people who are trailer trash out there?

I voted that it would damage the BDSM community - but I think I (and others) dealt with this in another thread:

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98526&highlight=media

apologies once again for the length of my post on that topic!