The Tea Party is far outside the GOP mainstream -- yet sets the agenda

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According to this article looking at data from these polls:

The Tea Party and the Hammock Theory of Poverty

By Greg Sargent January 24 at 1:37 pm


The increased focus on inequality has shifted the conversation away from deficit/austerity mania and towards a discussion of what government should be doing to boost the economy and protect people from economic harm. And it’s also prompted good new polling that goes deep into public views of the economy, the safety net, inequality, and what government should do about it.

On these topics, this week brought two new polls from Pew Research and CBS News.

I’ve asked both firms for a detailed breakdown of their data, and here’s a striking finding: The ideas and assumptions underlying the GOP economic and poverty agenda are far and away more reflective of the preoccupations of Tea Party Republicans. Meanwhile, non-Tea Party Republicans are much more in line with the rest of the public on these matters.

In short, the Tea Party economic worldview, if such a thing exists, is isolated from the rest of the public, and even to some degree from non-Tea Party Republicans – yet it has an outsized role in shaping the GOP’s overall agenda.

Both the Pew and CBS polls find large majorities believe the income gap is growing, and both find that more Americans want government to do something about it. Both also find solid majority support for raising the minimum wage, extending unemployment benefits, and (in Pew’s case) taxing the rich to help the poor.

Both polls also find that far larger numbers of Republicans don’t think government should act to reduce inequality. This is reflected in the GOP economic agenda. As Jonathan Chait explains, this agenda continues to be premised on the ideas that there is, if anything, too much downward redistribution of wealth, that government shouldn’t interfere in the market by, say, raising the minimum wage, and that safety net programs lull people into dependency (Paul Ryan’s Hammock Theory of Poverty).

But here’s the thing. That basic set of assumptions — and the resulting positions on some of the individual policies being discussed – are held overwhelmingly by Tea Party Republicans; and not nearly as much by non-tea party Republicans. Key findings:

On government action to combat inequality:

* The Pew poll finds Republicans divided on whether government should do a lot or some to reduce inequality, versus doing little or nothing, by 49-46. But tea party Republicans overwhelmingly tilt against government doing something by 66-28, while non-tea party Republicans overwhelmingly favor doing something by 60-35.

* The CBS poll is less pronounced, but even here, Tea Party Republicans overwhelmingly oppose government acting to reduce the gap between rich and poor by 82-17, while non-Tea Party Republicans believe this by 66-29 (so nearly a third of non-Tea party Republicans believe it).

On unemployment benefits:

* The Pew poll finds Republicans oppose extending unemployment benefits by 53-44. But Tea Party Republicans overwhelmingly oppose this by 70-29, while non-Tea Party Republicans support it by 52-44.

* Similarly, the CBS poll finds that Republicans oppose extending unemployment benefits by 49-40. But Tea Party Republicans overwhelmingly oppose it by 58-31. Non-Tea Party Republicans favor extending them by 46-43.

On the Hammock Theory of Poverty:

* The CBS poll finds that Republicans believe unemployment benefits make people less motivated to look for a job by 57-40. But Tea Party Republicans overwhelmingly believe this by 67-32. By contrast, only a minority of non-tea party Republicans believe this (47-51).

* The Pew poll has a similar finding: Republicans believe government aid to the poor does more harm than good by making people dependent on government, rather than doing more good than harm, by 67-27. But Tea Party Republicans overwhelmingly believe this by 84-11, while non-tea party Republicans are somewhat more closely divided, 59-35.

On the minimum wage:

* The Pew poll finds that Republicans favor raising the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour by 54-44. But Tea Party Republicans overwhelmingly oppose this by 65-33. Non-Tea Party Republicans overwhelmingly support it by 65-33. (All the above Pew numbers include Republicans and GOP-leaners).

* The CBS poll is less pronounced, but even here, Tea Party Republicans tilt against a minimum wage hike by 52-47, while non-tea party Republicans favor it by 50-48.

A number of conservative reform types, such as Michael Gerson and Peter Wehner, and Michael Strain, have written at length about the need to break from tea party orthodoxy on economic matters, and to begin to envision an affirmative government role when it comes to strengthening (and reforming) the safety net, and even spending government money to combat the near term jobs emergency. I don’t know if non-tea party Republicans can be reached and split off from the tea party on these matters or not, but it does seem at least plausible, if the above numbers are an accurate picture of things.

Meanwhile, some Republican lawmakers do seem sincere about charting a new course on poverty. But the party agenda remains in thrall to a set of ideas that remain largely the province of a small tea party minority, and are not nearly as widely held among Republicans overall.
 
I recently put all the right wing wackos, racists and cut and paste'ers on iggy and 99% of the nonsensical political threads disappeared.

I'm going to have to do the same to you for a while; which should take it up to 99.9%. This is like... your third TP thread in two days. Can't you keep your cut and pastes to just one thread on the same topic?
 
I recently put all the right wing wackos, racists and cut and paste'ers on iggy and 99% of the nonsensical political threads disappeared.

I'm going to have to do the same to you for a while; which should take it up to 99.9%. This is like... your third TP thread in two days. Can't you keep your cut and pastes to just one thread on the same topic?

Hey, I always pick way better and more interesting and informative and credible C&P's than anybody on the RW side; and my attitude here is a of a somebody's-gotta-do-it nature.
 
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I recently put all the right wing wackos, racists and cut and paste'ers on iggy and 99% of the nonsensical political threads disappeared.

I'm going to have to do the same to you for a while; which should take it up to 99.9%. This is like... your third TP thread in two days. Can't you keep your cut and pastes to just one thread on the same topic?


well, you are kind of feminine
 
For the most part they represent the Republican base, not the State.

Republican base = Bitter old gun-nut bible thumpers who absolutely HATE it when the government tells them what to do..

Unless it's telling OTHER PEOPLE that they have no right to choose, make birth control as hard to get as possible and telling gay people they can't be married.
 
Who did you start this thread about? Most of the REpublican base wants what the Tea Party wants, smaller constitutional government, less taxes, less regulation.

AIUI, the TPers are only about half of the active Pubs today, probably less. (If you have different figures, please provide cite.) Are the other half socialists, then, or what? The present war for the soul of the GOP is not a conflict between the party leadership and the grassroots, it's a conflict between different elements of the grassroots, between the Staunch Conservatives and the Main Street Republicans (in the Pew Typology).
 
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Republican base = Bitter old gun-nut bible thumpers who absolutely HATE it when the government tells them what to do..

Unless it's telling OTHER PEOPLE that they have no right to choose, make birth control as hard to get as possible and telling gay people they can't be married.

Oh for fucks sake. Seriously?
 
Who did you start this thread about? Most of the REpublican base wants what the Tea Party wants, smaller constitutional government, less taxes, less regulation.

Liar...they love huge government and so do you Mr.FederalSupremacy/propolice state.

It's true they want less taxes and they want more spending on THEIR projects.....they just don't want to pay for it.

Less regulation...of course...more of them not wanting to be responsible, their irresponsibility the reason for the regulations in the first place.

God fuckin' damn vette...when will you quit fuckin' lying about the GOP...and yourself??

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Rhetorical question vette......take a fuckin' lap.
 
And if Democrats sweep Congressional elections, you'll pop in to claim fraud, demand recounts and deny legitimacy.

To be fair if Democrats sweep I'll call fraud. We know the gerrymander is too strong to be swept and Congress incumbants win. If they get beat in huge numbers something is wrong. . .very wrong.
 
To be fair if Democrats sweep I'll call fraud. We know the gerrymander is too strong to be swept and Congress incumbants win. If they get beat in huge numbers something is wrong. . .very wrong.

Yeah. But small numbers is a possibility.
 
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