Old 01-09-2014, 09:34 PM   #1
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Was it the category?

I've gotten a lot of hate for a new story, Under His Eyes, told from the POV of a rather loathsome Loving Wife. I personally think I wrote a rather clever tale there. Would it have a better reception in Satire, or Horror, or what?
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:10 PM   #2
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I've gotten a lot of hate for a new story, Under His Eyes, told from the POV of a rather loathsome Loving Wife. I personally think I wrote a rather clever tale there. Would it have a better reception in Satire, or Horror, or what?
It is the category. LW readers are not happy unless they are not happy and will shred anything put in front of them. The comments range from rude to downright hate filled and unnerving.

Your tag line alone will cause the site to stick it in LW even if you wanted to try to put it under something else.
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:15 PM   #3
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Loving Wives should be renamed Burn the Bitch (although there are some stories in there where the authors write some decent stories where the goal isn't to burn anyone. Unfortunately, one has to dig through the crap to find them).
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:57 AM   #4
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Look at it this way...maybe true success in LW is achieving a ridiculous low score and collecting the most hateful comments.

Laugh it off and fuck em if they can't take (or understand) a joke!
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Old 01-10-2014, 08:38 AM   #5
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Look at it this way...maybe true success in LW is achieving a ridiculous low score and collecting the most hateful comments.

Laugh it off and fuck em if they can't take (or understand) a joke!
Yeah, I'll have to adopt this attitude. I was thinking of deleting this piece and re-submitting it under a different name in a different category, maybe satire. But maybe I'll leave it there and wear it as a badge of honor.

Ah, something funny happened. My two lowest-voted stories, UNDER HIS EYES and JENNY BE FAIR, which two also got the most views and anon hate comments, got me the most hits for favorite story or author.
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Old 01-10-2014, 10:44 AM   #6
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I've gotten a lot of hate for a new story, Under His Eyes, told from the POV of a rather loathsome Loving Wife. I personally think I wrote a rather clever tale there. Would it have a better reception in Satire, or Horror, or what?
Is this a serious question? Anyone who has been around Lit. for more than a week knows that LW is a snake pit where misogyny rules and flaming is the standard response.

There was a time when stories about "Married extra-marital fun: swinging, sharing & more" could be published there. They provoked the "Burn the bitch" crowd, but were still accepted by a faction of the readers. Lately, however, that faction has been squeezed out, and what is left is constant warfare between the revenge-seeking BTB crowd, and the hapless cuckolds. There is no longer any middle ground.

Your story is bloody red meat for the BTB faction, but doesn't have sufficient humiliation of the husband to satisfy the cuckolds. As a result, there is no base of support for what you have written.

It might have done better in EH, but there are no guarantees. The self-loathing moral police show up in nearly every category.
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:30 PM   #7
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Is this a serious question? Anyone who has been around Lit. for more than a week knows that LW is a snake pit where misogyny rules and flaming is the standard response.
I'll plead ignorance of the mores of LW readers because most of my LIT reading occurs on a Vizio (Android) tablet using the LIT app... which doesn't show comments. Ah, what an innocent I was! In the future, I'll make sure that my satirical pieces go elsewhere.
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:50 PM   #8
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If you write to the Loving Wives category on this website, reader reception, which is guaranteed to be polarized, should be the least of your concerns. Why isn't it enough for you that you wrote a story that satisfied you?
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Old 01-10-2014, 04:37 PM   #9
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Trolls.

I think they're just trolls and attention whores.
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Old 01-10-2014, 05:10 PM   #10
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Of course attention whore might also be applied to anyone who posts in Loving Wives for the second time and then comes to the board to complain about the result. Did not check if that was the case here, of course, because it's not a specific comment to the original poster. It's more an observation on the Loving Wives comments constantly posted to the board. I've seen board posters declaring they purposely posted a provocative story in Loving Wives to jazz up the trolls and then came to the board to complain about the response. That pretty much falls into attention whore.
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On that note it is hard to believe anyone who has popped up on the boards a couple of times is still surprised by loving wives and its vitriol.

Personally I think the best approach is that of Geronimo Appleby who lives to piss them off in any and every way he can.

I tried it once and my only complaint was I was disappointed I didn't get hit harder than I did. Felt like a failure.

Although the private feedback from the guy who threatened to "rape me dead" was an interesting one. I hope he thought I was a woman
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Of course attention whore might also be applied to anyone who posts in Loving Wives for the second time and then comes to the board to complain about the result.
This was my first LW post. The other submission that scored low but gained many views and favorites was my first (and so far only) story in INCEST. Apparently there's an unforgiving humorless audience there too.

And as I mentioned, I do most of my LIT reading on a tablet, where the LIT app doesn't show comments. So no, I wasn't previously aware of the toxic nature of LW commenters. Now, I know.
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Old 01-11-2014, 04:30 PM   #13
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Update

Some anons decided to one-bomb my highest-scored submissions, knocking them all down below 4.50. I know, I'm not the first target of such. And I won't complain. Action, not words.

I contemplated my reasons for writing and posting here. No, not for money. So, for brownie points, or for fun? I've decided it's for fun, not for votes. Thus, I have switched off voting on all my stories.

I'll still gather comments, no problem. The nastiest can be the funniest, along with the death-threat PMs and such. And I may write more rude stories just to piss-off the infants. I'm good at rude.

Coming up:

The tale of the Pornomancer, who magnetically attracts women, and seeks respite.
The tale of the deformed dwarf pharmacist who wreaks terrible revenge on his haters.
More tales of Jenny and friends and their little town's incestuous secrets.
More tales of Alan In The Office, with turf wars and orgies and stimulation.
More essays, about cheating, and sex with aliens, and venereal parasites.
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Stay tuned.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:43 AM   #14
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this gets weirder

The tale in question, UNDER HIS EYES, has disappeared from my story list and now shows up on my VIEW SUBMISSIONS page as REJECTED. Reason: "Murder story in Loving Wives category. Disgusting." The story is still accessible via the link.

Anyone who actually read the last few paragraphs should be able to tell that the death was accidental, not a murder. I seem to recall other LW stories that include depictions of actual hot- or cold-blooded murder, and filled with acts rather more disgusting than anything in my story. The narrator is certainly a cheating wife and thus qualifies for the LW category.

I can't tell why the post-publication rejection, nor who rejected it. I guess I'll throw in some text clarifying the accidental nature of the death, and resubmit. Maybe I'll pick up more FAVORITE votes when it appears again -- and all those nasty comments will go away, hey?
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What Is Cheating? (essay) - "Rumblin', stumblin', bumblin' BARF! I don't think an editor would help this mess. Was there a point? There certainly didn't seem to be a storyline." -Anon
Under His Eyes (satire) - "YOU ARE A SICK FUCK. WHY WOULD YOU WRITE THIS HORRIBLY VILE STORY. THIS IS HUMANITY AT ITS WORST. I ONLY SKIMMED TO SEE WHAT CRAP IT WAS. YOU NEED TO BE LOCKED AWAY FROM ANYONE YOU COULD HURT FOR REAL. MINUS 1 BILLION ISN'T ENOUGH. DON'T WRITE ANYMORE." -Anon
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Some anons decided to one-bomb my highest-scored submissions, knocking them all down below 4.50. I know, I'm not the first target of such. And I won't complain.
And yet you do complain. You seemed obsessed by your reader ratings. You must have pretty low vote counts for it to matter that much. I've had the same thing happen to me and it hardly made a dent. Plus the one votes are usually deleted if they are anomalies.

Focus on your writing, rather than the votes -- if it's good it will find an audience.

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The tale in question, UNDER HIS EYES, has disappeared from my story list and now shows up on my VIEW SUBMISSIONS page as REJECTED. Reason: "Murder story in Loving Wives category. Disgusting." The story is still accessible via the link.

Anyone who actually read the last few paragraphs should be able to tell that the death was accidental, not a murder. I seem to recall other LW stories that include depictions of actual hot- or cold-blooded murder, and filled with acts rather more disgusting than anything in my story. The narrator is certainly a cheating wife and thus qualifies for the LW category.

I can't tell why the post-publication rejection, nor who rejected it. I guess I'll throw in some text clarifying the accidental nature of the death, and resubmit. Maybe I'll pick up more FAVORITE votes when it appears again -- and all those nasty comments will go away, hey?
In Post #28 of this recent AH thread (http://forum.literotica.com/showthre...=981490&page=2), Laurel, the only acquisitions editor here, explains how to reopen a "rejected" discussion with here to provide your reasoning on why the original submission shouldn't be rejected. It might, indeed, be an issue of not seeing the real cause of the death.
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In Post #28 of this recent AH thread (http://forum.literotica.com/showthre...=981490&page=2), Laurel, the only acquisitions editor here, explains how to reopen a "rejected" discussion with here to provide your reasoning on why the original submission shouldn't be rejected. It might, indeed, be an issue of not seeing the real cause of the death.
Thanks. (Sorry for the delay, I've been away.)
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What Is Cheating? (essay) - "Rumblin', stumblin', bumblin' BARF! I don't think an editor would help this mess. Was there a point? There certainly didn't seem to be a storyline." -Anon
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