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11-17-1999, 01:24 AM
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While I agree with you, Laurel. I also have to say that stories of underaged sex should not really matter too much. Granted, it would probably disgust me to read about some guy screwing a 10 year old but the 1st Amendment often backs up the author. As a former law enforcement officer, I can explain that we (society, that is) cannot be pressured to believe that by writing such a story, some pervertic sicko may go out and rape a child. It is the same as trying to blame music lyrics to juvenile crime and/or suicides. But, while individuals have the constitutional right to write a story about underaged sex, you, Laurel, have the right not to publish it online. And I respect that and you. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, MS. LAUREL.
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11-18-1999, 09:42 PM
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I agree, but what I think isn't the issue.
The First Amendment may back up the writer, but it doesn't mean I can't get hauled into court, fined, or jailed. Think it doesn't happen? Remember Mike Diana, Lenny Bruce, and others who have been persecuted for their art.
And it's not just legal issues. We are currently in a bit of a squall with our ISP because he is unhappy with much of the content on the site. I definitely don't want to be shut down, but I'm not going to delete what he wants removed, so we're working out a compromise. I'll keep you all posted.
Always fun to come back from 4 days in Vegas to find a nasty threatening note in your mailbox. hehe
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11-20-1999, 02:07 AM
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I agree with you entirely, Laurel. That statement was based on alot of request for underage sex stories. I wouldn't advise you or any website host to jeopordize their freedom or livlihood for a story of some pervert screwing a little girl or a woman teaching the 15 year old grocery bagger a new way to "bag her groceries". It's not worth it. I have first hand experience dealing with such perverts from my time on the job. I once had to deal with a man in his 40's trying to proposition a 14 year old boy into allowing him to perform oral sex on him. I wanted to personally put that man out of that boy's and society's miseries. But of course, that was for the court to decide.
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08-13-2008, 10:04 PM
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Server trying o limit Literotic?
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Originally Posted by Laurel
I agree, but what I think isn't the issue.
The First Amendment may back up the writer, but it doesn't mean I can't get hauled into court, fined, or jailed. Think it doesn't happen? Remember Mike Diana, Lenny Bruce, and others who have been persecuted for their art.
And it's not just legal issues. We are currently in a bit of a squall with our ISP because he is unhappy with much of the content on the site. I definitely don't want to be shut down, but I'm not going to delete what he wants removed, so we're working out a compromise. I'll keep you all posted.
Always fun to come back from 4 days in Vegas to find a nasty threatening note in your mailbox. hehe
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What s your server! A bible thumping sefrighteous fundi-freak?! What parts is he trying t hve you or Manu remove? : Loving Wives with issues of adultery? Or gay/lesbian sex which I kno for a fact that bible thumpers hate and curse aloud in public!? Sorry: I'm Canadian, but I deffinitely stand by your clause of 1st Amendmen and the right to have unlimited choices! As long as they don' hurt others! The only right & wrong in the Law in the Wiccan Reed: An Ye Harm None! Do the best of your talent, or Do What Ye will! SoMuch forGood Evil! huh! It'sjust malisciousness! which I think these baptist nutsdo their best at, lie he baptist group that is trying to get into Canada to Winipeg to disrupt Tim's, the man that was butcheredanddecapiated by that horrid murderer on the Greyhound bus! That and the murder and canibalist are the closest to evil I can comprehend! And I don't comprehend them at all. it an the Baptist nuts! ! Angry & confusd Quesla, The Wiccan Blind Lady
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08-13-2008, 10:12 PM
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Quote:
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What s your server! A bible thumping sefrighteous fundi-freak?! What parts is he trying t hve you or Manu remove? : Loving Wives with issues of adultery? Or gay/lesbian sex which I kno for a fact that bible thumpers hate and curse aloud in public!? Sorry: I'm Canadian, but I deffinitely stand by your clause of 1st Amendmen and the right to have unlimited choices! As long as they don' hurt others! The only right & wrong in the Law in the Wiccan Reed: An Ye Harm None! Do the best of your talent, or Do What Ye will! SoMuch forGood Evil! huh! It'sjust malisciousness! which I think these baptist nutsdo their best at, lie he baptist group that is trying to get into Canada to Winipeg to disrupt Tim's, the man that was butcheredanddecapiated by that horrid murderer on the Greyhound bus! That and the murder and canibalist are the closest to evil I can comprehend! And I don't comprehend them at all. it an the Baptist nuts! ! Angry & confusd Quesla, The Wiccan Blind Lady
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I'm pretty sure a religious fundamentalist wouldn't have agreed to host an erotica site in the first place.
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08-17-2008, 01:00 PM
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Quote:
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I'm pretty sure a religious fundamentalist wouldn't have agreed to host an erotica site in the first place.
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Hahahahaha!
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08-17-2008, 08:50 PM
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Quote:
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I'm pretty sure a religious fundamentalist wouldn't have agreed to host an erotica site in the first place.
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If history is a guide, one might if he/she thought God wouldn't let the ownership record become public knowledge. Religious fundamentalists don't seem to be any more straight-laced than anyone else if they think they can get away with it.
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08-17-2008, 08:54 PM
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one lil kiddy goes, one lil kiddy goes, then one old daddy goes, then they all fall down.
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08-17-2008, 09:59 PM
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Quote:
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If history is a guide, one might if he/she thought God wouldn't let the ownership record become public knowledge. Religious fundamentalists don't seem to be any more straight-laced than anyone else if they think they can get away with it.
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Point, but I'd still be surprised if someone that really felt porn was evil was hosting an erotica or porn site of any sort.
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08-18-2008, 12:12 PM
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read terms of service for this site. i do believe it says, absolutely no mentioning of anyone underage, period.
pretty clear to me.
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08-18-2008, 12:14 PM
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wonder why you never hear of anyone getting arrested for posting a billion stories about incest =\
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08-18-2008, 12:55 PM
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so people can make fun of rednecks?
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08-18-2008, 01:11 PM
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so people can make fun of rednecks?
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It's the most popular stories on lit, the readers can't all be rednecks surely?
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08-18-2008, 01:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quesla
What s your server! A bible thumping sefrighteous fundi-freak?! What parts is he trying t hve you or Manu remove? : Loving Wives with issues of adultery? Or gay/lesbian sex which I kno for a fact that bible thumpers hate and curse aloud in public!? Sorry: I'm Canadian, but I deffinitely stand by your clause of 1st Amendmen and the right to have unlimited choices! As long as they don' hurt others! The only right & wrong in the Law in the Wiccan Reed: An Ye Harm None! Do the best of your talent, or Do What Ye will! SoMuch forGood Evil! huh! It'sjust malisciousness! which I think these baptist nutsdo their best at, lie he baptist group that is trying to get into Canada to Winipeg to disrupt Tim's, the man that was butcheredanddecapiated by that horrid murderer on the Greyhound bus! That and the murder and canibalist are the closest to evil I can comprehend! And I don't comprehend them at all. it an the Baptist nuts! ! Angry & confusd Quesla, The Wiccan Blind Lady
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Whatever you say you perv. You're the one who bumped an almost ten year old thread about underage sex.
Pedo!
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08-18-2008, 02:51 PM
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It's the most popular stories on lit, the readers can't all be rednecks surely?
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It's so tempting . . .
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08-19-2008, 07:27 PM
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that's for sure...
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Originally Posted by sr71plt
If history is a guide, one might if he/she thought God wouldn't let the ownership record become public knowledge. Religious fundamentalists don't seem to be any more straight-laced than anyone else if they think they can get away with it.
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just look at John Edwards and many like him. Who was that TV evangelist sobbing a river of tears for forgiveness on his knees on his program?
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08-23-2008, 09:06 PM
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just look at John Edwards and many like him. Who was that TV evangelist sobbing a river of tears for forgiveness on his knees on his program?
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Jimmy Swaggart. Believe it or not, he has a web site. Here it is:
http://www.jsm.org/
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08-24-2008, 02:21 AM
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In America, depending on what state it is I guess, the age of consent is 18, where I live, the age of consent is 16--so I suppose it is where you live that counts--re legals.--Sebastapol
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08-24-2008, 02:25 AM
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I'm waiting for my story (first time I've ever written anything) (hoping it gets accepted) to get submitted--its entitled Sex with my psycharitrist---I've made everyone at least 18--one slightly under---perhaps 17--okay?---Sebastapol.
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08-24-2008, 03:30 PM
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I'm waiting for my story (first time I've ever written anything) (hoping it gets accepted) to get submitted--its entitled Sex with my psycharitrist---I've made everyone at least 18--one slightly under---perhaps 17--okay?---Sebastapol.
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No, 17 wouldn't be OK to post here. It doesn't matter what the law is where you live concerning whether it can be posted here; it matters where those hosting the Web site live.
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08-24-2008, 04:26 PM
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Considering the amount of grave digging maybe we should be talking about erotic horror. The OP occurred in 1999.
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08-27-2008, 01:49 PM
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It's always been an issue because writing about underage/
sex is OK in book form (Lolita and Romeo & Juliet etc) so why not on the net?
Strictly, the laws about underage models having sex don't apply to the written word, but it is quite understandable that the site owners want to be ultra-careful. Also, for me, the absence of bestiality, necrophilia, castration and only allowing incest between healthy consenting adults is a plus.
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08-28-2008, 05:42 PM
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It's always been an issue because writing about underage/
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Yeah those weren't written in a post Janet Jackson nipple scarring every 83 year old woman who happened to hear about it world. Who knew Janet's pasty was so powerful.
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08-28-2008, 06:02 PM
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and i'll say again,"read terms of service for this site. i do believe it says, absolutely no mentioning of anyone underage, period.
pretty clear to me."
and maybe the list owners aren't paying attention?
and pedo's only deserve a tomahawk in the skull. period.
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08-30-2008, 02:21 AM
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Just a thought...there ARE some sights which allow underage content on their website, notably www.adultfanfiction.com and www.storinesonline.net. I also know of sights that will allow underage sex if BOTH of the people having sex in the story are underage.
While I certainly don't condone (or want to read) explicit descriptions of underage sex or pedophilia (for the un-educated, they are not the same thing), I also find the restriction limiting.
I have a fanfiction story that I have almost completed that I am quite proud of and would love to share, but I can't because it references the main character's abuse she experienced as a child (which was a major factor in her personality and played a significant role in her character arch throughout the story.)
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