Incest Is Best

[InBrightestDay]

I posted this over on Killjoy's thread, but I figure I should put it here too:

Ultimately, I suppose this is my fault. I'm the one who asked you about you and your brother's relationship elsewhere (by which I meant here on the incest thread), so I bear at least some of the responsibility for getting you this unwanted attention.

For the record, it's impossible to know for sure that anyone you talk to on the internet really is who they say they are. That said, I think there's a tendency to assume that the more shocking the story is, the more likely it is to be made up.

There is some validity to this (the Big Lie concept), but ultimately I think it's unfair to assume that a given story is fictional simply because it's not something we generally hear about.

Killjoy, there's not really any way you can prove to us that you are who you say you are, so it's always going to be a matter of trust. Some people are going to be suspicious, but I don't think that's a reason for you to just disappear. As for me, I don't see any harm in trusting you right now.

Now if you start asking us for money, then we're gonna have to talk.

[mom_wendy]

Originally Posted by CayleeBug71

So where are all the sons at tonight?

If you find some send one my way please

[DarkPleasures]

Originally Posted by InBrightestDay

I posted this over on Killjoy's thread, but I figure I should put it here too:

Ultimately, I suppose this is my fault. I'm the one who asked you about you and your brother's relationship elsewhere (by which I meant here on the incest thread), so I bear at least some of the responsibility for getting you this unwanted attention.

For the record, it's impossible to know for sure that anyone you talk to on the internet really is who they say they are. That said, I think there's a tendency to assume that the more shocking the story is, the more likely it is to be made up.

Killjoy, there's not really any way you can prove to us that you are who you say you are, so it's always going to be a matter of trust.

For the record, I've never "bashed" Killjoy. I've stated that Emerson wasn't the only Lit member who knew Killjoy was that Angie person. I've never said anything negative about her fucking her brother. (I did; however, have some choice words for someone who wants to ask the board for advice on how to rape another person.) It's not my fault that Killjoy got mad.

You need to read everything surrounding Killjoy, including the other screen names, to receive a more informed opinion.

This will be the last I will speak on the issue. I do not talk WITH Killjoy or the other names. I had never asked Killjoy or Angie to PM, even though they did many times in a "school yard bully fashion" in a few, then "apologized" for "being a bitch" and "getting crazy" (in their own words, not mine). All of those had been FWDed off to Laurel at the time they were sent. It's up to the owner on if she wishes to do anything about them or not.


That said, before others try to start more bullshit, yes I do "belong" here. My sex with my half-sister happened after we both were adults. Neither of us raped the other. Neither got the other drunk. And neither took advantage of a drunk person. We were just both horny bisexual women.

[InBrightestDay]

Originally Posted by DarkPleasures

For the record, I've never "bashed" Killjoy.

The term I used was "unwanted attention", so I'm not sure why you put "bashed" in quotes, but I am aware that Emerson was the one who apparently sought to annoy KJ.

I've stated that Emerson wasn't the only Lit member who knew Killjoy was that Angie person. I've never said anything negative about her fucking her brother.

Technically no, but I got the impression that the general thrust of the heckling (as you said, pretty much all Emerson) was that KJ didn't actually exist. This implied, intentionally or not, that the entire relationship between KJ/Angie/Whomever and her brother was fabricated as well.

Now, if it is made up, then that's that, but if it isn't, then one can see how that gets upsetting.

(I did; however, have some choice words for someone who wants to ask the board for advice on how to rape another person.)

I certainly wouldn't stop you from doing that!

You need to read everything surrounding Killjoy, including the other screen names, to receive a more informed opinion.

This thread is over 1,000 pages long, so I don't think I'll end up reading the whole thing, but I will endeavor to find out as much as I can.

That said, before others try to start more bullshit, yes I do "belong" here. My sex with my half-sister happened after we both were adults. Neither of us raped the other. Neither got the other drunk. And neither took advantage of a drunk person. We were just both horny bisexual women.

I'm certainly not going to try and kick you out, and I'm sorry if I gave you that impression.

[DarkPleasures]

Originally Posted by InBrightestDay

The term I used was "unwanted attention", so I'm not sure why you put "bashed" in quotes, but I am aware that Emerson was the one who apparently sought to annoy KJ.

That was always Killjoy's word. Sorry if you thought I was implying that you said it.

Technically no, but I got the impression that the general thrust of the heckling (as you said, pretty much all Emerson) was that KJ didn't actually exist. This implied, intentionally or not, that the entire relationship between KJ/Angie/Whomever and her brother was fabricated as well.

I never said that Emerson was "heckling" Killjoy. Killjoy is the Angie-whoever name. (I forget the numbers that are attached to the name and, frankly, do not care to go look it up.) That is true. Technically "Killjoy" is an alt to the Angie name since the Angie name was here first. That's what alts are. What was implied, I think, is that Kingsak and Ashley are fake and more alts since "all three" names post in the EXACT SAME manner with the same typos and errors. Also, none of those three are ever online at the same time.

Now, if it is made up, then that's that, but if it isn't, then one can see how that gets upsetting.

Absolutely. However, read everything surrounding Killjoy. See who insults others and results to name calling and who doesn't. Some people reap what they sew. If they want to spew vileness then they cannot play innocent victim later!

This thread is over 1,000 pages long, so I don't think I'll end up reading the whole thing, but I will endeavor to find out as much as I can.

And it was started many years before these names came to Lit. If you click on Killjoy's screen name (or Kingsak, etc) you can look up their posts.

I'm certainly not going to try and kick you out, and I'm sorry if I gave you that impression.

Oh, no. Didn't say that you did. Others; however, have made that claim before! When Killjoy was Angie she said that "I hated incest and didn't belong here" because I felt asking for advice on how to rape a drunk person was not right. So, you see, that's the bullshit we get in this site sometimes.

[CayleeBug71]

Originally Posted by mom_wendy

If you find some send one my way please

You know it

[InBrightestDay]

Originally Posted by DarkPleasures

That was always Killjoy's word. Sorry if you thought I was implying that you said it.

Ah, okay.

I never said that Emerson was "heckling" Killjoy.

Indeed you didn't. I said Emerson was heckling KJ (and by heckling, I mean saying something purely to provoke an angry response). What you said was that your own involvement in the conversation was limited to supporting Emerson in his assertion that KJ and Kingsak were the same person. The "as you said" bit was simply referring to how you said that the bulk of the conversation was actually Emerson.

Killjoy is the Angie-whoever name. (I forget the numbers that are attached to the name and, frankly, do not care to go look it up.) That is true. Technically "Killjoy" is an alt to the Angie name since the Angie name was here first. That's what alts are. What was implied, I think, is that Kingsak and Ashley are fake and more alts since "all three" names post in the EXACT SAME manner with the same typos and errors. Also, none of those three are ever online at the same time.

It's true that Kingsak and Killjoy aren't online at the same time, but that can be looked at in different ways. On the one hand, it could be one guy (or girl) playing two characters. On the other hand, it's possible that the two of them only have one computer at their house, in which case they couldn't be online at the same time.

As for the typos, well, I don't like to point this out to people, but the internet does not seem to be conducive to good spelling and proper sentence structure, and a lot of the mistakes (confusing "your" with "you're", for instance) are fairly common ones.

Absolutely. However, read everything surrounding Killjoy. See who insults others and results to name calling and who doesn't. Some people reap what they sew. If they want to spew vileness then they cannot play innocent victim later!

I'll definitely look into it. From what I've seen thus far, KJ appears to be polite enough until she feels threatened. Again, I'll keep looking.

When Killjoy was Angie she said that "I hated incest and didn't belong here" because I felt asking for advice on how to rape a drunk person was not right. So, you see, that's the bullshit we get in this site sometimes.

Again, that's assuming they're one and the same. Mind you, I know you're certain of this; I just feel uncomfortable making that assumption myself.

[cryingalien]

Eager son wanting to please his mother....make up for all the grief he caused....

[TomFrost]

Originally Posted by CayleeBug71

So where are all the sons at tonight?

Do I count? I'm new to posting here. I have a total thing for mom son relationships.

[Emerson40]

Originally Posted by InBrightestDay

The term I used was "unwanted attention", so I'm not sure why you put "bashed" in quotes, but I am aware that Emerson was the one who apparently sought to annoy KJ.

Mr Brightest of Lights,
You are aware of nothing if you claim you are aware I sought to annoy this group of alts.
Quite the opposite in fact.
Go back and read through things. Read it all, and read it objectively. Things related to this "group" become evident and a clearer picture emerges.
You will also see I was complimentary and supportive of the story writing. I also suggested that the multiple ids stop, or at the very least they get the "story" straight. It was becoming confusing - "they" weren't Angie, didn't know Angie, then knew her, now she's just a "story" that was being worked on.
I had voiced this opinion earlier as well, without malice. I am a reader and a participant sir. Simply expressing an opinion and contributing. This gets lost in the static and when people set their hair on fire and shit is thrown in all directions.

Again, I encourage you to place your footing nearer the center of the road and read through it all before claiming awareness. I did, and can tell you my opinion and awareness is closer to reality than most of those just reacting to the shit storm.


Technically no, but I got the impression that the general thrust of the heckling (as you said, pretty much all Emerson) was that KJ didn't actually exist. This implied, intentionally or not, that the entire relationship between KJ/Angie/Whomever and her brother was fabricated as well.

Now, if it is made up, then that's that, but if it isn't, then one can see how that gets upsetting.

Your light burns dimmer Mr Brightness. My heckling only started thrusting once I started receiving multiple PMs from KJ and associated alts. And yes, they are alts, all of them. This doesn't take away from KJ's posts or her story, or change how others may feel about the stories. It just makes the whole thing very silly.
I did not receive a single PM from any of the legion of supporters, nor was I expecting any as my posts did not warrant it. The barrage came from KJ and KJ's alternate id's. I actually watched it happen - one was online and a PM would arrive. User logs out and another one appears as "online". Another PM appears from that "user". User goes "offline", next in line goes "online" and you guessed it, I receive another PM.
This is simply quite ridiculous and uncalled for.
In response, I prepared my post and posted it to the thread. You may see this as heckling, and that is your choice. But if you read the post, I present my case without freaking out and name calling, and I state reasons and give explanations for the points I made.
Something I wrote must have had a ring of sense to it, because following the post I received many, many PMs commenting on the well written review (not my word), and from Listers who agreed with what I had to say.

The response from the intended recipient was a prompt setting of the hair on fire, name calling, more nasty PMs, and behavior more becoming a 14 year old who did not get their way.

Again, your mind is your own to make up. The behavior of KJ following my post was textbook behavior displayed when a user with multiple alts gets outed. I find the whole thing ludicrous, and am looking forward to the alt reinforcements' contributions.


This thread is over 1,000 pages long, so I don't think I'll end up reading the whole thing, but I will endeavor to find out as much as I can.

Dark Pleasures' advice about seeking out the posts is good. You will get the crux of things there and not have to wade through 1000+ pages.
I apologize for the Boldface type (it looks like yelling sometimes I think), but I only wanted to differentiate my words from yours.

[geronimo_appleby]

in amongst the to-and-fro on the thread, i wondered if anyone would care to read my contest entry?

Catching Mother at Christmas

it's set in england so some of the vernacular might be alien to those not familiar with our quaint terms.

anyway, it's there if you wanna ...

[InBrightestDay]

Originally Posted by geronimo_appleby

in amongst the to-and-fro on the thread, i wondered if anyone would care to read my contest entry?

Catching Mother at Christmas

it's set in england so some of the vernacular might be alien to those not familiar with our quaint terms.

anyway, it's there if you wanna ...

Sorry. I wasn't ignoring your story or anything. It's just that you're a rather prolific author, so I had assumed you'd already received many a review and wouldn't want to hear any more on the matter on this thread. I'll definitely give it a read!

[geronimo_appleby]

Originally Posted by InBrightestDay

Sorry. I wasn't ignoring your story or anything. It's just that you're a rather prolific author, so I had assumed you'd already received many a review and wouldn't want to hear any more on the matter on this thread. I'll definitely give it a read!

dual purpose post on my behalf. a shameless plug whilst trying to deflect the bullshit.

[DarkPleasures]

Originally Posted by InBrightestDay

It's true that Kingsak and Killjoy aren't online at the same time, but that can be looked at in different ways. On the one hand, it could be one guy (or girl) playing two characters. On the other hand, it's possible that the two of them only have one computer at their house, in which case they couldn't be online at the same time.

Public libraries. College computer lab/room (if attending school). Smart phones or other devices. Work computers, since Kingsak has claimed to be the boss.

I have used all such means in my life, and during my time at Lit. In this modern technology age there are many ways to access the Net.

As for the typos, well, I don't like to point this out to people, but the internet does not seem to be conducive to good spelling and proper sentence structure, and a lot of the mistakes (confusing "your" with "you're", for instance) are fairly common ones.

While it's true far too many Americans are not intelligent enough to know the difference between "you're" and "your" or the "their"/"there"/"they're", I'am is an odd misspelling that all three names thought was a real world. They've had other idiosyncrasies that they've all shared that are not "common typos".

[MarathonATL]

...but damn.

http://xhamster.com/movies/459617/da...and_pussy.html

[Killjoy24]

Originally Posted by InBrightestDay

It's true that Kingsak and Killjoy aren't online at the same time, but that can be looked at in different ways. On the one hand, it could be one guy (or girl) playing two characters. On the other hand, it's possible that the two of them only have one computer at their house, in which case they couldn't be online at the same time.

As for the typos, well, I don't like to point this out to people, but the internet does not seem to be conducive to good spelling and proper sentence structure, and a lot of the mistakes (confusing "your" with "you're", for instance) are fairly common ones.

We do only have one PC and I've stated in my post that my spelling and grammar sucks. He has a PC at work but he can't go to sites like this on it! That could cost him his job. As for how we write, we were educated - if you can call it that - by the same teachers and schools, and as pointed out typing fast causes mistakes sometimes and I am not about to use spell-check on a forum thread. I feel that as long as my post is clearly understood, who should give a damn about the spelling? After all I am not and have never claimed to be a profesional writer like some of the greats here. I just wanted to give it a try. I don't have any other outlet to go to and I'am not hurting anyone.
As for Ashley you can PM her and find out if she is real. That's her business not mine.

[Ashley761]

Originally Posted by Killjoy24

We do only have one PC and I've stated in my post that my spelling and grammar sucks. He has a PC at work but he can't go to sites like this on it! That could cost him his job. As for how we write, we were educated - if you can call it that - by the same teachers and schools, and as pointed out typing fast causes mistakes sometimes and I am not about to use spell-check on a forum thread. I feel that as long as my post is clearly understood, who should give a damn about the spelling? After all I am not and have never claimed to be a profesional writer like some of the greats here. I just wanted to give it a try. I don't have any other outlet to go to and I'am not hurting anyone.
As for Ashley you can PM her and find out if she is real. That's her business not mine.

I may be new, but i dont see why you should have to explain yourself.
btw, if i am not real, i wish someone would tell me who the hell i am? Jerks!

[InBrightestDay]

As anyone who's looked at this thread in a while knows, there's been some debate over whether or not Killjoy24 and Kingsak are in fact the same person. I'm still not completely sure, since as I've said evidence can be interpreted either way, but here's the bottom line:

I don't care.

Ultimately, these arguments accomplish nothing constructive. Before this debate started, people seemed to be doing fine. No one was particularly angry or frustrated, and people weren't calling each other trolls left and right (though I still think it would be awesome if there were actual, mythological trolls on the internet ). If Killjoy and Kingsak (and maybe Ashley) are one person making stuff up, then he/she/they are the most harmless troll of all time. They're not trying to get people riled up and angry; that only seems to happen when somebody, who may be perfectly well-intentioned, attempts to "uncover" them.

I no longer want to be part of this. I don't like getting into arguments, especially when all that's accomplished is aggravating others, and that's what I feel this is. What we're all doing here is like attempting to cut out what is, at worst, a benign tumor. The darn thing isn't doing any harm, and cutting it out will only cause bleeding.

Killjoy, you were very nice to me when I first got here, and you've remained that way, so I'm going to continue treating you like you are who you say you are. We've talked, and you know you have a temper, so just be careful with it and treat everyone else as nicely as you've treated me; if worse comes to worst, just ignore them.

DarkPleasures, you seem like a reasonable, understanding person, and I'm sorry if I've upset you.

Geronimo, thank you for trying to maintain sanity around here.

I move that this subject be dropped.

[Ashley761]

I second that motion.
I just started here and I don't want involved in any dispute! I like to keep my life private, as it is mine and nobody elses! Keep me out of the whole mess and leave them alone.

[Killjoy24]

Originally Posted by geronimo_appleby

in amongst the to-and-fro on the thread, i wondered if anyone would care to read my contest entry?

Catching Mother at Christmas

it's set in england so some of the vernacular might be alien to those not familiar with our quaint terms.

anyway, it's there if you wanna ...

Love to. Need a break from crap

[Oo_Bugsy]

Ah its been a very long time since I was on this thread last!

My life has changed ALOT since I was here last, how is everyone?

[Killjoy24]

HiYa Bugsy
Welcome back!

[DarkPleasures]

Originally Posted by InBrightestDay

DarkPleasures, you seem like a reasonable, understanding person, and I'm sorry if I've upset you.

You never did.

[Ashley761]

Post removed.
Was not meant to fish and bait. Just an observation of how it appears.

[chargergirl]

Originally Posted by Ashley761

Yep, sounds like trolling to me. Maybe stalking in the real world! Pervs

I think enough is enough with the fishing and baiting. Time to move along.