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Old 02-16-2013, 05:05 PM   #76
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OP didn't come here asking if the topic were allowed, they asked about ways to describe race that wouldn't feel insulting to lots of the members of that race.

The writer spoke only to their own intent, not Lit's intent.
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Old 02-16-2013, 05:11 PM   #77
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The OP got plenty of answers, what he didnt get were answers he wanted, which is about 99% of life.
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Or you could have just googled “Translation of Gaijen,” Stella. Yes, it can have negative “other than us,” even “inferior to us” connotations—more in the past than now (mostly in Japanese attitudes from the Russo-Japanese war period through WWII—when the big whammy explained to them that they weren’t superior). Don’t see a single “subhuman” definition or connotation, however. It would be more “inferior” because they aren’t Japanese than “less than human.” The Thomas Jefferson attitude I pointed to is what I think you were getting at, not the Gaijen meaning.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gaijin

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-gaijin.htm

http://www.babylon.com/definition/Gaijin/English

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaijin

You simply asserted a bad translation of the term.
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The OP got plenty of answers, what he didnt get were answers he wanted, which is about 99% of life.
OP got answers from people who addressed the question in the spirit it was asked.

And also, some object lessons in why the question is meaningful in the first place, as if anyone who would ask would need those.
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The newspapers and magazines are dying becuz theyre so inane and uptight,
Not really. They are dying because they aren't placed where people now go looking for "news" and they don't have the immediacy as the media does where people now go looking for news. The basic "news" isn't any different in the current media choices than newspapers--just with a wider base of prejudice. My local TV station just regurgitates what the newspaper does; and the newspapers on-line services just regurgitate what will be in the print edition.
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Old 02-16-2013, 05:27 PM   #81
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Deflection much? I'd dearly like to take a nap, but I'm busy writing an e-book for my most popular pen name series (mildly lesbian), and a nap would only be a diversionary tactic, which is what, of course, coming here and seeing you tell everyone what they can/do think and can write and read is as well.
Do you wear your pretty, new high heels when you write as a lesbian? Bet you look fetching! Do you also dress up in drag so that you "feel" the part? (we all KNOW you do, sweetie.... and that's okay. Feel free to let you inner drag queen go wild! Wheeeeeeeeeee....)


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OP got answers from people who addressed the question in the spirit it was asked.

And also, some object lessons in why the question is meaningful in the first place, as if anyone who would ask would need those.
Or thats your best guess.
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When you come anywhere close to the demographic I write for in your self-hate opinions, Safe_bet Usurper, I'll try to remember to care what you think.

Not likely to happen any time soon, though.

(Is this where Stella joins in again on the high heels slur?)
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When you come anywhere close to the demographic I write for in your self-hate opinions, Safe_bet Usurper, I'll try to remember to care what you think.

Not likely to happen any time soon, though.

(Is this where Stella joins in again on the high heels slur?)
This thread is not about you, dear. No matter how hard you try to make it so.
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Old 02-16-2013, 05:43 PM   #85
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Of course not, Stella, sweets. It's once more become about what you are going to permit us to think and write and read--and, oh yeah, and about Safe_bet Usurper hating everyone.
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I was in blackface make-up with a silver tinsel bow tie, a woolly wig, and I sang a "Coon" song from before 1914. Others were dressed as Arabs with the obligatory tea towel, Indians in Gandhi loincloths or makeshift sarees, Egyptians with cardboard Fezzes etc.
Three years ago, one of Australia's better-known "talent shows" (sic) had a blackface act. They were skewered for it, but the fact that the performers and hosts let it happen at all... yeah, some people are still struggling to reach the second half of the 20th century.

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According to my dictionary of Historical Slang the word wog is from late 19th and early 20th Centuries and is defined as "An Indian; an Arab. probably from golliwog".
I ran into that usage when reading Spike Milligan's war memoirs.

In Australia it's shifted in meaning, and mostly means Greek/Italian and thereabouts. It used to be quite offensive, but in the last 30-odd years it's been largely reclaimed. One of my characters uses the term for herself; I haven't had any complaints so far.
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Of course not, Stella, sweets. It's once more become about what you are going to permit us to think and write and read--and, oh yeah, and about Safe_bet Usurper hating everyone.
Someone asked for advice, I gave my advice, along with my reasoning. I guess it seems pretty compelling to you?

*shrug*
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Speak of the Devil.

A black man come to the house, to express his admiration of my collard greens. So i told him, pick yourself a mess to take home. He acted like I gave him one of my daughters. Niggaz know collards, and those collards are the prettiest in the whole USA. So I figger that a man who knows his greens deserves a prize.
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Someone asked for advice, I gave my advice, along with my reasoning. I guess it seems pretty compelling to you?

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Speak of the Devil.

A black man come to the house, to express his admiration of my collard greens. So i told him, pick yourself a mess to take home. He acted like I gave him one of my daughters. Niggaz know collards, and those collards are the prettiest in the whole USA. So I figger that a man who knows his greens deserves a prize.
So you begged him to fuck your daughter.
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So you begged him to fuck your daughter.
Hell no! The fool has a job!
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Hell no! The fool has a job!
Would that be the black guy or your daughter?
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All I know is if Stella or Amy ever read my one shot at Lesbian fiction"Sisters in Sin" they would bury the hatchet and unite to kick my ass, because by my own admission I cannot write it to save my life, but had fun with it and gave it a shot.
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All I know is if Stella or Amy ever read my one shot at Lesbian fiction"Sisters in Sin" they would bury the hatchet and unite to kick my ass, because by my own admission I cannot write it to save my life, but had fun with it and gave it a shot.


Ah, but you see, YOU admit it!

The first step to recovery (or to at least not writing lousy lesfic ) is to admit you have a problem!
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Ah, but you see, YOU admit it!

The first step to recovery (or to at least not writing lousy lesfic ) is to admit you have a problem!
Hello everyone, My name is Lovecraft68 and yes I too, have written bad lesbian fiction.
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The first time I tried to write lesbian sex it was pretty bad-- never to be published.
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I love collard greens!

My white mother in law was watching Shirley Temple movies the other day. There is more than one movie where she is dressed in blackface. I was surprised, but, like others have said, it was not unusual for the time. My own mother probably would have taken the DVDs and burned them.
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I love collard greens!

My white mother in law was watching Shirley Temple movies the other day. There is more than one movie where she is dressed in blackface. I was surprised, but, like others have said, it was not unusual for the time. My own mother probably would have taken the DVDs and burned them.
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I go to work and you guys leave me a months reading. LOL Thanks for all the replies, I think I got a good idea of what is ok and not and learned some new stuff too.

You can see it sooner or later when I put in my story. Just a group of six, sex hungry, couples who get together now and then.
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This thread is a fucking train wreck, though it appears to be in the repair phase.

OP...black, white, everyone else get their "race"...Asian, Native American, Latino...are you going to write that yellow woman sucked the brown dudes dick while the hot red guy fucked her?

But, what you should do, because I am totally an expert due to being on Literotica, is fold in characteristics so the reader figures it out without you giving the stats. That way you can let readers know if they are high yellow, ridge runners, sallow skinned city dwellers, or all the other permutations. At least, that's my two cents.
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