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Old 02-12-2013, 07:41 AM   #51
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well the obama supporters love to listen to empty speeches
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:41 AM   #52
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It had to happen. He's been ignoring Arican Americans the entire time.
Yet many conservatives accuse Obama of being steeped in black liberation theology and going way overboard in helping black people. What do you think?
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:43 AM   #53
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well the obama supporters love to listen to empty speeches
The last time Obama made a speech conservatives accused him of having too much content. Too much agenda. Now there's not enough? Which is it?
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:58 AM   #54
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I largely agree with this, however it leads me to be even more baffled by those who question the usefulness of getting as many people college educated as we feasibly can. College-level jobs are difficult or impossible to automate and lead to both work and paying taxes. And I think this is what Obama is getting at. "Hey fellow Americans, we're REALLY going to need smart, skilled people going forward with as much education as possible so here's my plan".

Republicans will oppose him every step of the way.
No they won't, in many respects the republicans have led on this issue.

The problem with that particular solution is two fold. The first being that there will be no fruits born for two decades. In order to fully take advantage of a college education requires solid preparation, and the primary and secondary educational systems in this country are failing both the children and the taxpayer. Those need to be fixed, soon and forcefully.

The second problem is that there is no degree qualification for the federal monies. As such we are graduating a host of people with utterly useless degrees. The policies regarding loan availabilities has to change. "If you get a degree in engineering, we got your back. But if your major is "Women's Studies", well, you're on your own Charlotte." The punctuation mark to my statement is the fact that we have been green carding 400 to 600 thousand engineers/scientists per year and have been doing so since the late 1980's. Computer science and engineering majors go to work immediately with starting salaries in the high $50k region. Humanity and Social Science majors go to work at just a little over half that figure if they can find work at all.

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Old 02-12-2013, 08:05 AM   #55
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Yet many conservatives accuse Obama of being steeped in black liberation theology and going way overboard in helping black people. What do you think?
I hadnt heard that at all....I just look at the unemployment rate among blacks...twice the national average
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:27 AM   #56
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It had to happen. He's been ignoring Arican Americans the entire time.
They voted his color and are just now starting to listen to what the commie is saying.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:37 AM   #57
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You're tripping on your own narrative, hypocrite.

- When Obama passed the stimulus conservatives said he was doing too much on the economy.

- When Obama tried to pass three jobs bills conservatives said he was doing too much on the economy.

- When Obama wanted the payroll tax holiday conservatives said he was doing too much on the economy and then complained about it expiring.


You're either a hypocrite or you have amnesia. Which is it?
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:38 AM   #58
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:39 AM   #59
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No they won't, in many respects the republicans have led on this issue.

The problem with that particular solution is two fold. The first being that there will be no fruits born for two decades. In order to fully take advantage of a college education requires solid preparation, and the primary and secondary educational systems in this country are failing both the children and the taxpayer. Those need to be fixed, soon and forcefully.

The second problem is that there is no degree qualification for the federal monies. As such we are graduating a host of people with utterly useless degrees. The policies regarding loan availabilities has to change. "If you get a degree in engineering, we got your back. But if your major is "Women's Studies", well, you're on your own Charlotte." The punctuation mark to my statement is the fact that we have been green carding 400 to 600 thousand engineers/scientists per year and have been doing so since the late 1980's. Computer science and engineering majors go to work immediately with starting salaries in the high $50k region. Humanity and Social Science majors go to work at just a little over half that figure if they can find work at all.

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The problem with College education is

The over ability to borrow ungodly sums of money, without the thought of paying fro it.....and using it to study for topics that have ZERO value,

GENDER STUDIES for instance

Leads to disaster
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:50 AM   #60
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And if the immigrants weren't already here doing the cheap labor you might have a point.
The problem with immigrants, and cheap labor, especially day workers, is this:
Their employers don't pay into the system, Health care, any Associated taxes, and whatever else they should be paying, they pay cash, nothing more..
The immigrants, or cheap labor, does not pay Social Security, Medicare, Federal and State Income taxes, along with Disability and unemployment insurance, because all they get is, cash.
So, along the way the people, and the government are both getting fucked, by cheap labor, because of the lost payment into the system, and lost taxes.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:51 AM   #61
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The problem with immigrants, and cheap labor, especially day workers, is this:
Their employers don't pay into the system, Health care, any Associated taxes, and whatever else they should be paying, they pay cash, nothing more..
The immigrants, or cheap labor, does not pay Social Security, Medicare, Federal and State Income taxes, along with Disability and unemployment insurance, because all they get is, cash.
So, along the way the people, and the government are both getting fucked, by cheap labor, because of the lost payment into the system, and lost taxes.
and the benefits they give em
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:57 AM   #62
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The problem with immigrants, and cheap labor, especially day workers, is this:
Their employers don't pay into the system, Health care, any Associated taxes, and whatever else they should be paying, they pay cash, nothing more..
The immigrants, or cheap labor, does not pay Social Security, Medicare, Federal and State Income taxes, along with Disability and unemployment insurance, because all they get is, cash.
So, along the way the people, and the government are both getting fucked, by cheap labor, because of the lost payment into the system, and lost taxes.
That's why we need a rational guest worker program.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:58 AM   #65
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The last time Obama made a speech conservatives accused him of having too much content. Too much agenda. Now there's not enough? Which is it?


the value of obama speech writers words.....ZERO

toilet paper has more value then any speech obama
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:03 AM   #66
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the value of obama speech writers words.....ZERO

toilet paper has more value then any speech obama

So when like Obama said in a speech that he was going to deliver universal health care, those were just empty words to you?
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since peeps quote Curry.....I can say, CURRY just makes shit up........PLAIN and SIMPLE
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:50 AM   #68
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They voted his color and are just now starting to listen to what the commie is saying.
The Vettebigot longs for a return to a simpler time when coloreds took his orders, not his wallet.

...but he's not racist, nossir. He's got plenty of jigaboo friends.
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The Vettebigot longs for a return to a simpler time when coloreds took his orders, not his wallet.

...but he's not racist, nossir. He's got plenty of jigaboo friends.
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:39 AM   #70
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I just look at the unemployment rate among blacks...twice the national average
A very consistent voting bloc for a single political party in the US.

Congratulations!

Detroit and Chicago are two examples of cities with large 'black' populations that have staunchly supported a single political party for several decades. That's working out quite well!

D'oh!
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The Constitution Party should have a rebuttal speech to both the Democrats and Republicans. The Constitution Party is the future of effective opposition to the establishment.
Future of what? You realize that, just in terms of people who have even heard of it, the CP probably places after the Libertarians and the Greens?
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They voted his color and are just now starting to listen to what the commie is saying.
When are you going to stop embarrassing yourself with that "commie" bullshit? Obama is one degree to the left of DLC-DINO Bill Clinton, if that.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:28 PM   #73
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That's why we need a rational guest worker program.
Careful. "Guest worker" makes it sound like they're going to be sent back across the border after the fruit-picking season or whatever, or at least that racking up years-of-residency for citizenship-application purposes will be out of the question. W was all for a "guest worker" program, which ought to tell you something about it, and nothing good.
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When are you going to stop embarrassing yourself with that "commie" bullshit? Obama is one degree to the left of DLC-DINO Bill Clinton, if that.
There are 4 major classifications in teh Vetteman Taxonomy:
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