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01-16-2013, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ishmael
The unrestricted right to keep and bear arms, the removal of which cannot be accomplished by any party, at any time, without due process of law.
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Unrestricted right to keep and bear arms? So you can have a tactical nuke?
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01-16-2013, 08:34 PM
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The unrestricted right to keep and bear arms, the removal of which cannot be accomplished by any party, at any time, without due process of law.
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The right which has been restricted for nearly a century. Nothing is sacrosanct. Get over it and join us in the real world.
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01-16-2013, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ishmael
The unrestricted right to keep and bear arms, the removal of which cannot be accomplished by any party, at any time, without due process of law.
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There is no unrestricted right to anything.
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01-16-2013, 08:36 PM
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The West Coast Pop
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Unrestricted right to keep and bear arms? So you can have a tactical nuke?
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I can't even get a simple MK3 grenade let a lone a decent surface to air missile. I think this right's been infringed upon and the rwcj won't admit it.
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01-16-2013, 08:40 PM
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Tempus fugit
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Originally Posted by Ishmael
The unrestricted right to keep and bear arms, the removal of which cannot be accomplished by any party, at any time, without due process of law.
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Which has turned the USA into one of the most violent places in the world to live that is not in an active state of war or insurrection.
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01-16-2013, 08:46 PM
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There is no unrestricted right to anything.
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You can't shout "Theater!" in a crowded fire.
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-- John Nichols
IX. The Courtyard
It was the city I had known before;
The ancient, leprous town where mongrel throngs
Chant to strange gods, and beat unhallowed gongs
In crypts beneath foul alleys near the shore.
The rotting, fish-eyed houses leered at me
From where they leaned, drunk and half-animate,
As edging through the filth I passed the gate
To the black courtyard where the man would be.
The dark walls closed me in, and loud I cursed
That ever I had come to such a den,
When suddenly a score of windows burst
Into wild light, and swarmed with dancing men:
Mad, soundless revels of the dragging dead—
And not a corpse had either hands or head!
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01-16-2013, 08:46 PM
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Unrestricted right to keep and bear arms? So you can have a tactical nuke?
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Who have you been keeping company with? No one I know has one of those.
I have 4 registered guns. A 30.06, a 4.10, a .22 rifle, and a .22 pistol. None of the ammo I have can nuke anyone unless someone changed those bullets and buckshot to some serious bad ass ammo I can't afford.
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01-16-2013, 08:46 PM
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You can't shout "Theater!" in a crowded fire.
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Not being able to is a reduction in our liberties!
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01-16-2013, 08:47 PM
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Who have you been keeping company with? No one I know has one of those.
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Now tell us no one you know wants one. We won't believe you.
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"Indeed, the only people who seem to think Obama displays even the slightest social democratic tendency are those who imagine that the very mention of the word 'socialism' should inspire a reaction like that of a vampire confronted with the Host."
-- John Nichols
IX. The Courtyard
It was the city I had known before;
The ancient, leprous town where mongrel throngs
Chant to strange gods, and beat unhallowed gongs
In crypts beneath foul alleys near the shore.
The rotting, fish-eyed houses leered at me
From where they leaned, drunk and half-animate,
As edging through the filth I passed the gate
To the black courtyard where the man would be.
The dark walls closed me in, and loud I cursed
That ever I had come to such a den,
When suddenly a score of windows burst
Into wild light, and swarmed with dancing men:
Mad, soundless revels of the dragging dead—
And not a corpse had either hands or head!
-- Fungi from Yuggoth, by H.P. Lovecraft
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01-16-2013, 08:58 PM
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*chuckle*
I should have expected the moron brigade to jump to extremes.
Arms are defined as military weapons that are carried by the individual combat soldier, small arms in other words.
Missiles, bombs, even hand grenades, are defined as explosive ordnance and/or artillery and are not, nor ever have been, covered by the second amendment.
The advent of assault rifles, sub-machine guns, and machine pistols were technological game changers so we outlawed ALL of those weapons back in the 1930's.
So just rant on you fucking morons.
Ishmael
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01-16-2013, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ishmael
*chuckle*
I should have expected the moron brigade to jump to extremes.
Arms are defined as military weapons that are carried by the individual combat soldier, small arms in other words.
Missiles, bombs, even hand grenades, are defined as explosive ordnance and/or artillery and are not, nor ever have been, covered by the second amendment.
The advent of assault rifles, sub-machine guns, and machine pistols were technological game changers so we outlawed ALL of those weapons back in the 1930's.
So just rant on you fucking morons.
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Defined by whom? You can carry a tac nuke in a briefcase.
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01-16-2013, 09:00 PM
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rub on my leg little grrl
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Originally Posted by Ishmael
The unrestricted right to keep and bear arms, the removal of which cannot be accomplished by any party, at any time, without due process of law.
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I'll betcha someone could skate right up the middle this decade with a non-lethal gun anyone could carry and make billions.
Taser Junior for $29.99 for example.
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01-16-2013, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lancecastor
I'll betcha someone could skate right up the middle this decade with a non-lethal gun anyone could carry and make billions.
Taser Junior for $29.99 for example.
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Yeah, and I bet you it would be outlawed all over the place. The justification for the upholding of those bans will be found in the majority ruling in US v Miller 1939.
Ishmael
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01-16-2013, 09:05 PM
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Satan's Little Helper.
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Question is why should anyone support this idiot on anything, really?
So far this cancer's legacy is his "obama-care"
My daughter's best friend is an assistant manager at Dunkin Donuts, know what her and the manager had to do last week?
Take the 5 employees that work 38-40 hours and cut them down to 29. I think we all know why don;t we?
because of Obama care. They can;t afford to give these full time employees medical so cut them down to part time.
so people making crap money as it is just lost 25% of their income. in addition to their SS increase in taxes.
But oh, yeah let's get those guns mister president!
This country will be a third world nation within 4 years and if this souless sack of fucking garbage has anything to say about it, defenseless.
The looting that will be going on alone in the next couple of years will be why I will never fork over my guns.
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01-16-2013, 09:08 PM
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In a series of Executive Orders signed today, US President Obama formally declared War on Guns.
American successes in "Wars" against things other than foreign countries have always been low...
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Which foreign wars have been successes in the past 60 years?
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01-16-2013, 09:10 PM
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rub on my leg little grrl
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Which foreign wars have been successes in the past 60 years?
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Herring Rouge.
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01-16-2013, 09:13 PM
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Defined by whom? You can carry a tac nuke in a briefcase.
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I'm at fault for thinking Ish would answer a direct question whose answer would conflict with his own personal view of reality. Anytime Ish is presented with information that conflicts with his personal view of the world he responds with personal attacks and presents information that isn't relevant to the question.
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01-16-2013, 09:14 PM
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Now tell us no one you know wants one. We won't believe you.
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01-16-2013, 09:16 PM
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There is no unrestricted right to anything.
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Including abortion, pornography, using foul language in movies and music, dressing in the clothes of the opposite sex, getting tattoos? I could go on, but um, the ACLU would kill me.
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01-16-2013, 09:17 PM
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Herring Rouge.
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Ah, that was the one between Grenada and Panama I believe.
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01-16-2013, 09:19 PM
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Including abortion, pornography, using foul language in movies and music, dressing in the clothes of the opposite sex, getting tattoos? I could go on, but um, the ACLU would kill me.
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Great point. There are restrictions on all of those things you mentioned.
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01-16-2013, 09:33 PM
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rub on my leg little grrl
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Ah, that was the one between Grenada and Panama I believe.
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I mentoned the right to have an anti aircraft missile system on my roof last week...and Iran having nukes, but the Gun Nuts think those things are "different".
They just want to be left alone to decide what's right for themselves.
This system would also work well at traffic intersections.
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01-16-2013, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Lancecastor
I mentoned the right to have an anti aircraft missile system on my roof last week...and Iran having nukes, but the Gun Nuts think those things are "different".
They just want to be left alone to decide what's right for themselves.
This system would also work well at traffic intersections.
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Joining the 'moron brigade' Lance?
Those things you mention are artillery and explosive ordnance by FORMAL definition. As such they truly are different than an infantryman's small arms. Those items have never been protected by the second amendment, not ever. Even though there are morons on the other extreme that seem to think that they are protected.
I'm somewhat surprised that you, as an attorney, seem to be unaware that words have meanings and things have definitions.
Ishmael
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01-16-2013, 09:45 PM
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Including abortion, pornography, using foul language in movies and music, dressing in the clothes of the opposite sex, getting tattoos? I could go on, but um, the ACLU would kill me.
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Please go on!
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"Indeed, the only people who seem to think Obama displays even the slightest social democratic tendency are those who imagine that the very mention of the word 'socialism' should inspire a reaction like that of a vampire confronted with the Host."
-- John Nichols
IX. The Courtyard
It was the city I had known before;
The ancient, leprous town where mongrel throngs
Chant to strange gods, and beat unhallowed gongs
In crypts beneath foul alleys near the shore.
The rotting, fish-eyed houses leered at me
From where they leaned, drunk and half-animate,
As edging through the filth I passed the gate
To the black courtyard where the man would be.
The dark walls closed me in, and loud I cursed
That ever I had come to such a den,
When suddenly a score of windows burst
Into wild light, and swarmed with dancing men:
Mad, soundless revels of the dragging dead—
And not a corpse had either hands or head!
-- Fungi from Yuggoth, by H.P. Lovecraft
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01-16-2013, 09:46 PM
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Joining the 'moron brigade' Lance?
Those things you mention are artillery and explosive ordnance by FORMAL definition. As such they truly are different than an infantryman's small arms. Those items have never been protected by the second amendment, not ever. Even though there are morons on the other extreme that seem to think that they are protected.
I'm somewhat surprised that you, as an attorney, seem to be unaware that words have meanings and things have definitions.
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Patents! Anti Obama commercial! Shut the fuck up, liar.
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