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Old 12-30-2012, 07:39 PM   #1
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Got a question for ya . . .

Esteemed colleagues . . .

I'm about two-thirds through the way with a story that I can't for the life of me figure out how to categorize. On the face of it, it belongs in LW where it would be subject to the froth-mouthed ravings of the trolls that inhabit the place. I know some of you find throwing meat to them and watching the ensuing feeding frenzy with amusement perfectly okay. I'd rather not. So, if there is no place else it could possibly go, I'll put it there with malice aforethought but I'd rather not.

Situation: In a modest sized city there is a company that is the dominant employer, kind of like Peoria and International Harvester. The group I'm writing about are a number of upper management and marketing women who have to travel, sometimes for extended periods. This is rough on marriages and has in the past led to nasty fights and divorce because the men get 'lonely'. So the ladies got together and formed the Borrowers' Club. If a woman is gone for a long time and hubby can't stand it any longer he calls one of the other guys in the club and that wife hustles over and 'comforts' him until he goes to sleep and then she heads home, usually to get screwed even more intensely by her own guy. The women all figure this is better than having hubby feeling bad enough that he goes out for a drink or two to kill the pain and happens upon some other chick that wifey doesn't know. She might want to steal the guy, especially if she isn't gone for weeks at a time. So the women feel that it's better than one their friends help the guy out, someone they trust and who has no designs on their man. The story is about a new member of the club and her experiences therein.

Now, that's an obvious LW plot but can it be put somewhere else? Erotic Couplings, perhaps? Is there any justification for Group Sex? Please let me know what you think and what your reasoning is.

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Old 12-30-2012, 07:47 PM   #2
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No way!

That is a great idea and absolutely has to be in LW with the wives ultimately calling the shots.

Who cares about the score on this one? Your comments will be endlessly entertaining!

Besides, six months from the last chapter, pull it and put it in EC or Novellas or something.

I say LW all the way and enjoy the ride!


I will say I misread LW when I tried to irritate them...they sort of like my story...no H's, but better than I expected.

Really, just have fun. Great fracture on Stepford Wives.
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If you really don't want to put it in LW, you could try putting it in "Erotic Couplings" or even "Group Sex." (They all gotta be swingers to participate in this.)
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If you really don't want to put it in LW, you could try putting it in "Erotic Couplings" or even "Group Sex." (They all gotta be swingers to participate in this.)
I'd say Erotic Couplings, particularly if the Borrowers go in for single sessions.
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In the first chapter the Borrowed Wives are strictly one-on-one so HP's suggestion makes sense. However, Jomar's logic is hard to argue with. The idea of throwing this piece of chum into the tank and watching the water boil is beginning to appeal to me. And the title of Chap 2 is "Shared". Of course it could go in Group but if the trolls absolutely froth over Chap 1, it may be hard to resist keeping it up in LW and then, as he suggests pulling it when I run out of narrative ideas and sticking it back in Novellas. I will continue to ponder . . . and write, of course. Keep up the arguments, all.
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Old 12-31-2012, 04:13 PM   #6
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I can empathize

I'm facing the exact same challenge right now. I'm about 3/4 of the way through a story that best fits LW, and I'm scared half out of my wits to post it.

Maybe you and I should just clasp hands like Thelma and Louise and fly off that cliff together in our 1966 Thunderbird convertible.

And tell those trolls to go fuck themselves.
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I'm facing the exact same challenge right now. I'm about 3/4 of the way through a story that best fits LW, and I'm scared half out of my wits to post it.

Maybe you and I should just clasp hands like Thelma and Louise and fly off that cliff together in our 1966 Thunderbird convertible.

And tell those trolls to go fuck themselves.
I guess it depends on how the story turns out. If both partners are still happy at the end, it will drive the misogynists crazy. They can't stand stories where the woman isn't property, does what she damned well pleases and doesn't suffer in the end. And if her husband goes along with it, they'll label him a hopeless cuckold and talk about how spineless he is and how he ought to smack her around to teach her a lesson. I figure they're all pussy-whipped little mice whose only conversation at home is, "Yes, dear". They take out their frustration on the 'Net. So sad, really.
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Old 12-31-2012, 05:38 PM   #8
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I guess it depends on how the story turns out. If both partners are still happy at the end, it will drive the misogynists crazy. They can't stand stories where the woman isn't property, does what she damned well pleases and doesn't suffer in the end. And if her husband goes along with it, they'll label him a hopeless cuckold and talk about how spineless he is and how he ought to smack her around to teach her a lesson. I figure they're all pussy-whipped little mice whose only conversation at home is, "Yes, dear". They take out their frustration on the 'Net. So sad, really.
Okay, you're scaring me now. Seriously. Who are these people?

I'm not sure my story fits in that category, then. It is written from a fairly scruff male POV, but in third person. Total stroke story with a mild plot. The storyline goes like this: Jack and Emily have been married for 10 years. Good marriage, active sex life. Kevin is Jack's best friend and is married to Kelly. The four of them end up together after a drunken night & fool around, nothing serious. Two months later, Kelly has left Kevin and Jack discovers his wife's car in Kevin's driveway. Turns out to be sort of innocent, but not entirely. The three of them end up together in a wild night of sex that ends up in a more or less polyamorous relationship.

There are anal aspects, and group sex obviously, but the whole conflict centers around the marriage vows and dealing with infidelity. LW, right?

Totally NOT hijacking your thread - just brief synopsis for perspective.

Anyway, back to your point...if what you're saying is true, I don't stand a chance of making it through this alive. I read a few of the top stories in that category this week to get an idea of what it was about. Very broad topic range, I thought. And, yeah, some of the comments were over the top, but a lot of them weren't. TxTallTales' story, 'The Accidental Nudist Cabin' was delightful and well-liked. Total swinger story, though, with no wife-hating, and that story is in the LW Hall of Fame.

I guess it comes down to this: What is the worst that can happen?
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I've got an extra shark suit size medium.

They still bite but they only leave bruises.

Try this one on for size, especially the comments. They are almost a story unto themselves. Until Death Do Us Part
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Remember, you can always erase comments. But I'm not sure your story is really LW. Sounds more Group Sex to me. That's where I put all my polyamory/omnigamy stories.
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Okay, you're scaring me now. Seriously. Who are these people?

Totally NOT hijacking your thread - just brief synopsis for perspective.
TxTallTales' story, 'The Accidental Nudist Cabin' was delightful and well-liked. Total swinger story, though, with no wife-hating, and that story is in the LW Hall of Fame.

I guess it comes down to this: What is the worst that can happen?
Who are they?. I suspect they are in two camps; the one lot are seriously unwell and need expert help. And you cannot fix crazy. The other lot are the deliberate shit-stirrers who give a bad rating or make rude comments 'just for the sake of it' - because they find it amusing.

Thanks for reminding me of the Accidental Nudist Cabin. If that's the one where six (3 couples) go off into the wild and enjoy some healthy fun, I agree. IT's a damned good story.
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They still bite but they only leave bruises.

Try this one on for size, especially the comments. They are almost a story unto themselves. Until Death Do Us Part
Oh, holy HELL! I got a headache from reading those comments. It ranked down there with...well, a Scouries thread. Except for the one comment about living next to you, TxRad. That one made me laugh so hard I almost cried.
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Thanks for reminding me of the Accidental Nudist Cabin. If that's the one where six (3 couples) go off into the wild and enjoy some healthy fun, I agree. IT's a damned good story.
It IS that one! One of my favorites.
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I guess it depends on how the story turns out. If both partners are still happy at the end, it will drive the misogynists crazy. They can't stand stories where the woman isn't property, does what she damned well pleases and doesn't suffer in the end. And if her husband goes along with it, they'll label him a hopeless cuckold and talk about how spineless he is and how he ought to smack her around to teach her a lesson. I figure they're all pussy-whipped little mice whose only conversation at home is, "Yes, dear". They take out their frustration on the 'Net. So sad, really.
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Can you please let me know when you post your story so I can support you?

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Can you please let me know when you post your story so I can support you?

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Oh, sure. I've got Chap 1 written and am about to start on 2. I know what's going to happen in that one but if there is a chap 3 I have no real ideas. I might consider rehabilitating the villainess in chap 3 but we'll see how things turn out.
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Y'know what, Bear? Put the goddamn chapters where you think they fit best (I say LW for #1 and EC or GS for the others) and let the trolls have at it. Who cares what those sick fucks have to blather on about? They're a bunch of needle dicked dork weenies and pussy whipped wimp husbands and if they had any love lives to speak of they wouldn't be reading and commenting on and whacking off to porn stories.

That oughta boost my readership.
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Oh, you've nailed them righteously but I don't think putting that description at the opening of the tale will get me anywhere. Still, it would be tempting . . .


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Oh, you've nailed them righteously but I don't think putting that description at the opening of the tale will get me anywhere. Still, it would be tempting . . .


"Here, you sorry, impotent, bile-filled sons of hagfish. Read how real people would solve a problem and suck wind!"


That'd tell 'em.
If they're as wimpy as they appear, they may be flattered.

You'd get some interesting feedback I bet.
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Personally, I get a charge out of the comments and sometimes write stories in LW just to get them. The best kind of LW story is the one where the woman is white and blonde and she's cheating with a well-hung black stud who is a lot younger.

If you don't want to make it LW, you could have the principals of different races and post to I/R.
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Personally, I get a charge out of the comments and sometimes write stories in LW just to get them. The best kind of LW story is the one where the woman is white and blonde and she's cheating with a well-hung black stud who is a lot younger.

If you don't want to make it LW, you could have the principals of different races and post to I/R.
LOL, I've gotten some pretty violent reactions from IR, too, but not as often. One of the women is from Latin America, though . . .
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Bedtime story!

This is a story in itself: The Bear and the Loving Wife Trolls. You have to do it. And an audio version of how you got on with the story in different regional accents like when you used to read The Hobbit aloud to schoolkids. ROFLOL!
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This is a story in itself: The Bear and the Loving Wife Trolls. You have to do it. And an audio version of how you got on with the story in different regional accents like when you used to read The Hobbit aloud to schoolkids. ROFLOL!
But you have to make it a talking bear, or some other mythical beast, because it would otherwise be rejected as bestiality.

ETA: Or maybe one of the Care Bears so it can be in the Celeb. category as fanfic.
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But you have to make it a talking bear, or some other mythical beast, because it would otherwise be rejected as bestiality.

ETA: Or maybe one of the Care Bears so it can be in the Celeb. category as fanfic.
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Care Bears won't fly here on Lit. The pedophile angle, I'm afraid.
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Too bad, Pedobear Meets the Care Bears in Bangkok would be a fun tale in the Celeb cat.
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"When my ugly ol' car won't climb the hill, I'll write a suicide note on a hundred dollar bill." 'Heavy Fuel' Dire Straits

"I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, the sinners are much more fun ..." 'Only the Good Die Young' Billy Joel

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