Tom Cruise is playing JACK REACHER?

[lovecraft68]

Originally Posted by Stella_Omega

Uh huh, that's totally why she spent the entire film hanging out on the set and all of her interviews drooling over him-- totally ignoring the filming of her book "Exit from Eden" which was happening at the same time.

Naw, I can't see Hauer as that whiney little poop head Lestat.
Jinx, LC

Every Time I think Rutgur I remember "Blind Fury" which was actually based on Marvel comics Daredevil.

Of course when comic movies went big time and Daredevil got "the treatment" who did they pick? Affleck, another pretty boy.

[PennLady]

Originally Posted by lovecraft68

So of course the first to come to someone's mind would be Reeves.

Reeves peaked with "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure." He was good/decent in "The Matrix" b/c the character didn't have to be anything but a blank slate. (To me, his worst performance was in "Johnny Mnemonic." But others may compete for the title.)

My favorite quote about Reeves, and I wish I could remember who wrote it, was that he couldn't act his way into a paper bag, let alone out of one.

Originally Posted by Stella_Omega

Uh huh, that's totally why she spent the entire film hanging out on the set and all of her interviews drooling over him-- totally ignoring the filming of her book "Exit from Eden" which was happening at the same time.

"Exit to Eden," at least the film, was worthy of ignoring by pretty much everyone, given what I remember.

[PennLady]

Rutger Hauer was a great vampire in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," but then it was all in fun. He was an even better replicant in "Blade Runner." But no, he wouldn't have worked for Lestat at all, I don't think.

[lovecraft68]

Originally Posted by PennLady

Reeves peaked with "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure." He was good/decent in "The Matrix" b/c the character didn't have to be anything but a blank slate. (To me, his worst performance was in "Johnny Mnemonic." But others may compete for the title.)

My favorite quote about Reeves, and I wish I could remember who wrote it, was that he couldn't act his way into a paper bag, let alone out of one.



"Exit to Eden," at least the film, was worthy of ignoring by pretty much everyone, given what I remember.

I liked Reeves opposite Swazee in Point Break and actually thought he was good in Parenthood.

He's one dimensional and as long as the script takes that into account he's okay. Speed was a decent type of movie for him.

[soflabbwlvr]

Originally Posted by lovecraft68

Should have gone with a Vin Diesel type.

But odds are many who will go to the movie will have never read the books. Cruise will put the butts in the seats and that is what counts.

Precisely. Box office draw is far more important than fealty to the source material. Directors will hire whoever will sell the most tickets over fandom's preconceived notion of who the star should be. The media are not the same.

In any event, if the director was holding out for a 6'5" actor, the movie would never get made. The only actor I could find with the required physical dimensions is Dwayne Johnson, and he could not sell the tickets the studio needs in order to green light the project.

Other actors previously mentioned are all lacking in brawn.

Jason Statham? 5'9"

Vin Diesel? 6'0"

Jeremy Renner? 5'9"

Russell Crowe? 5'11"

Daniel Craig? 5'10"

Matt Damon? 5'10"

(all statistics derived from google bio)

Hollywood has never let an actor's height get in the way of his role. That's what make-up and special effects departments do. There were no hobbits in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, but it sure looked like it on screen. Sylvester Stallone is only 5'9", but he sure looked like the heavyweight champion of the world in those Rocky movies.

[lovecraft68]

Originally Posted by soflabbwlvr

Precisely. Box office draw is far more important than fealty to the source material. Directors will hire whoever will sell the most tickets over fandom's preconceived notion of who the star should be. The media are not the same.

In any event, if the director was holding out for a 6'5" actor, the movie would never get made. The only actor I could find with the required physical dimensions is Dwayne Johnson, and he could not sell the tickets the studio needs in order to green light the project.

Other actors previously mentioned are all lacking in brawn.

Jason Statham? 5'9"

Vin Diesel? 6'0"

Jeremy Renner? 5'9"

Russell Crowe? 5'11"

Daniel Craig? 5'10"

Matt Damon? 5'10"

(all statistics derived from google bio)

Hollywood has never let an actor's height get in the way of his role. That's what make-up and special effects departments do. There were no hobbits in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, but it sure looked like it on screen. Sylvester Stallone is only 5'9", but he sure looked like the heavyweight champion of the world in those Rocky movies.

As far as height goes there is an actor named Thomas Ian Griffith who has done a few movies and has a lot of martial arts training. He's I believe 6'5" but he's not exactly the brawny type, martial artists usually aren't.

Now Angus Scrimm who played the "Tall Man" in the Phantasm movies I think in r/l was around 6'7"

[D_Lynn]

Originally Posted by soflabbwlvr

Precisely. Box office draw is far more important than fealty to the source material. Directors will hire whoever will sell the most tickets over fandom's preconceived notion of who the star should be. The media are not the same.

In any event, if the director was holding out for a 6'5" actor, the movie would never get made. The only actor I could find with the required physical dimensions is Dwayne Johnson, and he could not sell the tickets the studio needs in order to green light the project.

Other actors previously mentioned are all lacking in brawn.

Jason Statham? 5'9"

Vin Diesel? 6'0"

Jeremy Renner? 5'9"

Russell Crowe? 5'11"

Daniel Craig? 5'10"

Matt Damon? 5'10"

(all statistics derived from google bio)

Hollywood has never let an actor's height get in the way of his role. That's what make-up and special effects departments do. There were no hobbits in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, but it sure looked like it on screen. Sylvester Stallone is only 5'9", but he sure looked like the heavyweight champion of the world in those Rocky movies.

Had my heart set on this one: http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV...0,214,314_.jpg
6'2" is close enough.

But, I think Jomar has it right. According to the internet (which is never wrong ), this is the real reason Tom Cruise is now cast in the role ...

Originally Posted by jomar

Seems like I read he bought the rights, which would probably preclude a screen test. Could be wrong.

[sr71plt]

Originally Posted by soflabbwlvr

Precisely. Box office draw is far more important than fealty to the source material. Directors will hire whoever will sell the most tickets over fandom's preconceived notion of who the star should be. The media are not the same.

Well, in this case, if Cruise bought the rights to make the movie, then that trumps everything else. I hadn't known that. (I'm pretty sure, though, that Lee Child wouldn't mind an actor buying the rights just so he could do the movie--as long as the actor's check cleared the bank.)

[Bramblethorn]

Originally Posted by PennLady

Was that "Magnolia?" I heard he was really good in that but haven't seen it.

"Tropic Thunder". Haven't seen "Magnolia" as yet.

[Bramblethorn]

Originally Posted by PennLady

My favorite quote about Reeves, and I wish I could remember who wrote it, was that he couldn't act his way into a paper bag, let alone out of one.

He played a pretty good table in "Dangerous Liaisons".

[PennLady]

Originally Posted by Bramblethorn

"Tropic Thunder". Haven't seen "Magnolia" as yet.

Tropic Thunder, and Cruise's role, were pretty funny.

[soflabbwlvr]

Originally Posted by sr71plt

Well, in this case, if Cruise bought the rights to make the movie, then that trumps everything else. I hadn't known that. (I'm pretty sure, though, that Lee Child wouldn't mind an actor buying the rights just so he could do the movie--as long as the actor's check cleared the bank.)

But in this case, that's not the case. Lee Child sold the rights to Paramount. According to IMDB, they considered Brad Pitt, Vince Vaughn, Hugh Jackman, Will Smith, and Jamie Fox.

[lovecraft68]

Originally Posted by soflabbwlvr

But in this case, that's not the case. Lee Child sold the rights to Paramount. According to IMDB, they considered Brad Pitt, Vince Vaughn, Hugh Jackman, Will Smith, and Jamie Fox.

Hmm, I could see Hugh Jackman I don't know about his height, but he's good looking in a more rugged way and he's pretty built.

My wife practically drips over that dumb wolverine movie

[jomar]

Originally Posted by lovecraft68

Yes, I remember that now, I think Fangoria did a big article on it. See, to me, Rutgur was too rough looking for Lestat all Rice's vamps were pretty "fop" types.

Well, Rice definitely had Rutger in mind, but as there was a lot of gay stuff going on in the books, perhaps Cruise was the right choice after all.

[lovecraft68]

Originally Posted by jomar

Well, Rice definitely had Rutger in mind, but as there was a lot of gay stuff going on in the books, perhaps Cruise was the right choice after all.

Yup, pretty boy it was. With pretty boy Pitt opposite him and pretty boy banderas and.....

[jomar]

Originally Posted by Stella_Omega

Uh huh, that's totally why she spent the entire film hanging out on the set and all of her interviews drooling over him-- totally ignoring the filming of her book "Exit from Eden" which was happening at the same time.

Naw, I can't see Hauer as that whiney little poop head Lestat.
Jinx, LC

It's true, though. Do your google reveals all thing.

I also recall reading that Cruise went to her and sold himself to her and she finally came around.

[lovecraft68]

Originally Posted by jomar

It's true, though. Do your google reveals all thing.

I also recall reading that Cruise went to her and sold himself to her and she finally came around.

Maybe he "wept" that's all Lestat used to do in the books.

[PennLady]

I just saw the trailer for the movie. The last thing Cruise looks, at least in these scenes, is intimidating. Ack.

[sr71plt]

Originally Posted by jomar

I also recall reading that Cruise went to her and sold himself to her and she finally came around.

Define "sold himself," please. And do you have any idea how much she had to pay?

[jomar]

Originally Posted by sr71plt

Define "sold himself," please. And do you have any idea how much she had to pay?

Ha! ...

[RjThoughts]

Tom Cruise is too short, too "pretty", and too old to play Jack Reacher. I don't what he and his "church" have as to blackmail, but why does he keep getting these action roles.

[PennLady]

Originally Posted by RjThoughts

Tom Cruise is too short, too "pretty", and too old to play Jack Reacher. I don't what he and his "church" have as to blackmail, but why does he keep getting these action roles.

Cruise is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, names in show biz. If you put out a film with him in the lead, you are guaranteed a certain return because people recognize his name. At least, the studios think so.

Here's an article at Deadline.com with a little info about casting. The film rights were purchased by Paramount, and they offered the role to Cruise, who (obviously) ultimately took it.

After reading the Wiki entry on the film, I'd have to say that right up there with the casting is the title. "One Shot" would have been better, IMO. Also, after seeing a few more stills and having some time to mull over the trailer, I'd say my concerns would be less about Cruise's height (said to be 5'8") than his ... demeanor? He doesn't look serious enough, I guess.

[RjThoughts]

Originally Posted by PennLady

Cruise is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, names in show biz. If you put out a film with him in the lead, you are guaranteed a certain return because people recognize his name. At least, the studios think so.

Here's an article at Deadline.com with a little info about casting. The film rights were purchased by Paramount, and they offered the role to Cruise, who (obviously) ultimately took it.

After reading the Wiki entry on the film, I'd have to say that right up there with the casting is the title. "One Shot" would have been better, IMO. Also, after seeing a few more stills and having some time to mull over the trailer, I'd say my concerns would be less about Cruise's height (said to be 5'8") than his ... demeanor? He doesn't look serious enough, I guess.

It's appearing more and more that Cruise is Paramount's "Golden Boy." He's still not what one would think of when you think action.

As for his height, I've been near him. I'm 5' 9", and in barefeet I was at least 2 inches taller when I shook his hand.

[sr71plt]

I'm still sort of interested in how much Anne Rice paid for him. I once was interested in how much Mae West paid for John Wayne, but that interest sort of went away after they both were dead.

(I also suspect the Mae West got more value out of John Wayne than Rice would get out of Cruise, but maybe not. Rumors were that John Wayne was . . . well, you know.]

[lovecraft68]

I know he can't act out of a bag, but "The Rock" could have worked.