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Old 11-16-2012, 02:25 PM   #1
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Arrow Catholic Leaders Threaten Obama With 100% Chance of Civil Disobedience

If the election affirms the Obama administration’s HHS mandate, there is a 100 percent chance that there will be civil disobedience in the Catholic Church, led by its bishops. Whether jail will follow is anyone’s guess.

Read more at http://www.reagancoalition.com/artic...hbDSHCQIbff.99
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:30 PM   #2
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Yawn.. Time for the church to pay taxes.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:32 PM   #3
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The Marxists will just ratchet up their existing pogrom against Christianity.
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The Marxists will just ratchet up their existing pogrom against Christianity.


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Old 11-16-2012, 02:35 PM   #5
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Yawn.. Time for the church to pay taxes.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion; or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:35 PM   #6
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I you read between the lines in that article, it says that the priests are going to only target boys of parents who voted for Obama for molestation.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:37 PM   #7
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion; or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
"free exercise of" means that churches shouldn't have to pay taxes?
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:41 PM   #8
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"free exercise of" means that churches shouldn't have to pay taxes?
You don't, why should they?
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:46 PM   #9
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"free exercise of" means that churches shouldn't have to pay taxes?
What would the founders have said to the idea of crippling a church with taxes? Especially since they possessed the lost ancient knowledge that whatever is taxed less is produced?
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:52 PM   #10
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion; or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
Individuals still have the right to free exercise. If anything, it's expanded by the law because they don't have to be at the mercy of their employers.

Organized religion has rules in this country; the penalty for violating them is the loss of tax-exemption. Granted, the bigoted assholes running the Church will never see consequences...
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion; or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
I think this applies to churches/religions who stay out of government business and don't tell or pressure their members how to vote. The Catholic Church has a poor record on child sexual abuse and pregnant women. They have no leg to stand on for anything, much less healthcare.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:59 PM   #12
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What would the founders have said to the idea of crippling a church with taxes? Especially since they possessed the lost ancient knowledge that whatever is taxed less is produced?
400 hospitals in the US are owned and operated by the Catholic Church. Another 300 plus are owned and operated by various Christian denominations that hold the same pro-life stance as the Catholics. Close them down.
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:27 PM   #13
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400 hospitals in the US are owned and operated by the Catholic Church. Another 300 plus are owned and operated by various Christian denominations that hold the same pro-life stance as the Catholics. Close them down.
Hey! What a great idea!
With 700 less hospitals, healthcare will be even harder to get!
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:28 PM   #14
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I think this applies to churches/religions who stay out of government business and don't tell or pressure their members how to vote. The Catholic Church has a poor record on child sexual abuse and pregnant women. They have no leg to stand on for anything, much less healthcare.
Uhhh...whatever.
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Individuals still have the right to free exercise. If anything, it's expanded by the law because they don't have to be at the mercy of their employers.

Organized religion has rules in this country; the penalty for violating them is the loss of tax-exemption. Granted, the bigoted assholes running the Church will never see consequences...
Where in the First Amendment does it say all of that? What does "Congress shall make no law..," mean to anyone who can read?
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:24 PM   #16
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I think this applies to churches/religions who stay out of government business and don't tell or pressure their members how to vote. The Catholic Church has a poor record on child sexual abuse and pregnant women. They have no leg to stand on for anything, much less healthcare.
What it means LadyV is that the founders did not want an American Charles Beckett whispering policy into the ear of the President and the government of the United States. It does not mean that all religion be banned from public places or discourse. If it did, the painting on the Capitol rotunda wouldn't exist, the Ten Commandments wouldn't be carved in stone opposite the justices of the Supreme Court, the Congress wouldn't be opened with a prayer everyday, and our money wouldn't say "in God we trust."
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What it means LadyV is that the founders did not want an American Charles Beckett whispering policy into the ear of the President and the government of the United States. It does not mean that all religion be banned from public places or discourse. If it did, the painting on the Capitol rotunda wouldn't exist, the Ten Commandments wouldn't be carved in stone opposite the justices of the Supreme Court, the Congress wouldn't be opened with a prayer everyday, and our money wouldn't say "in God we trust."
Vette, the OP was about healthcare and the Catholic's Church against the ACA. Personally, I'm for complete separation of church and state and I'm a Christian.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:04 PM   #18
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If the election affirms the Obama administration’s HHS mandate, there is a 100 percent chance that there will be civil disobedience in the Catholic Church, led by its bishops. Whether jail will follow is anyone’s guess.

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What would the founders have said to the idea of crippling a church with taxes? Especially since they possessed the lost ancient knowledge that whatever is taxed less is produced?
So taxing religion more will produce less of it? Perfect.
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If the election affirms the Obama administration’s HHS mandate, there is a 100 percent chance that there will be civil disobedience in the Catholic Church, led by its bishops. Whether jail will follow is anyone’s guess.

Read more at http://www.reagancoalition.com/artic...hbDSHCQIbff.99
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:35 PM   #24
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So, you people think that only the Catholic church should be taxed, and only because they oppose abortion?
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So how does the Affordable Care Act violate that?
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