Gaza

[DooleyDarter]

Originally Posted by RobDownSouth

Remember who else used to justify reprisal killing of civilians?

Take your KKK robes and pointy hat off long enough to look at a bit of history. Can you tell me the last time Israel has invaded its neighbors unprovoked? Please be specific.

[Beco]

Originally Posted by RobDownSouth

That....That....THAT'S DIFFERENT!

You just take what Sean says as gospel, how the fuck do I know who armed who and who asked to be armed? My guess is Fatah asked Israel for assistance to protect themselves against Ha-mess. As far as blowing up police stations, WTFK

[Beco]

Originally Posted by SeanH

So Israel didn't arm Fatah after the Hamas election? Israel didn't bomb every police station in Gaza?

you got links?

[miles]

Originally Posted by 4est_4est_Gump

As was predictable, the Brotherhood can now not control its "fringe" elements and rockets are hitting Israel from Egypt.


Just a band of happy-go-lucky secular community organizers.

Much preferable to Mubarak.

Egypt is paying Israel back because they parted the Red Sea.

[4est_4est_Gump]

Originally Posted by miles

Egypt is paying Israel back because they parted the Red Sea.

That put a smile on my face...

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/11/16...ts-in-the-u-s/

[zipman]

Originally Posted by blobfish

It makes me wonder how many of these missiles are purposefully allowed to enter Gaza in order to justify the coming Israeli genocide. They kill three Israelis, and Israel will kill hundreds of Palestineans.

It makes me wonder how anyone could distort logic so much as to actually post this.

Truly idiotic.

[zipman]

Originally Posted by 4est_4est_Gump

He doesn't care. His thinking is compartmentalized, shallow and focused on the moment and like his buddies zip and St. Pete, that means that "discrediting" me is more important than the topic at hand. I do not know why I live in their head so rent free, but I do.

Their polity is not a one of positive conversation to win hearts and minds, but rather one of negativity; if they can poison the conversation so much that no one will participate, then they have won the "discussion" and then, as a result, never have to listen to, or entertain, any thoughts that come from outside the consensus.

As we can clearly see is that yesterday's thought was Israel bad, A_J bad, must attack, belittle and impugn lest someone actually listen to him or defend them. Damned dirty conservatives...

A_J's corollary #3, “The New Age Liberal maintains contradictory positions comfortably compartmentalized. (This is because the New Age Liberal is a creature that believes in consensus as a short-cut to an examination of the facts and a reasoned judgment about said facts. Corollary #2.)”

I'm not here to win hearts and minds.

And you do not engage in discussion. You C&P garbage and then claim you didn't write it so you can't be accountable for posting it. Any time anyone refutes your posts you simply move on to the next ridiculous point.

If you want to portray yourself as a joke, you shouldn't be upset when people laugh at you.

[zipman]

Originally Posted by RobDownSouth

Remember who else used to justify reprisal killing of civilians?

Still pushing this utterly false and failed meme?

[miles]

Originally Posted by 4est_4est_Gump

That put a smile on my face...

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/11/16...ts-in-the-u-s/

For the last 10 or 15 years, the script for these Near East conflicts and attendant American protests is always the same: Palestinian militants launch mortars, rockets or suicide attacks at Israel; Israel eventually gets fed up and launches a punitive raid to find and root out the attackers; the media (and leftist activists) ignore the original Palestinian violence which precipitated the raid, and dub the incident “unprovoked Israeli aggression”; protesters show up at consulates in major cities around the world and condemn the Israelis but not the Palestinians; everybody accuses everybody else of being a Nazi and a terrorist and a war criminal; the Israelis kill some of the attackers, then withdraw, and everything settles back down to “normal” (i.e., a tense existential standoff).

[blobfish]

Originally Posted by miles

I thought you were a normal person.

You were the only one.

Most libertarians hate Israel, because it's the shining symbol of American colonialism.

[blobfish]

Originally Posted by Beco

Learn to spell Palestinians. Until then, nobody is going to take you seriously

I spell everything like that, like "Argentineans". I don't care what the preferred spelling is.

[blobfish]

Originally Posted by zipman

It makes me wonder how anyone could distort logic so much as to actually post this.

Truly idiotic.

I'm not saying they are doing that, but I wouldn't put it past them.

It may be time for their Reichstag to burn.

[zipman]

Originally Posted by blobfish

I'm not saying they are doing that, but I wouldn't put it past them.

It may be time for their Reichstag to burn.

Hamas and the palestinians play idiots like you as fools. They attack Israel repeatedly and when Israel responds the Israelis are too blame.

Anyone who uses nazi comparisons to discuss Israel immediately loses any credibility in my book. Not that you had much to begin with in my book.

[blobfish]

Originally Posted by zipman

Hamas and the palestinians play idiots like you as fools. They attack Israel repeatedly and when Israel responds the Israelis are too blame.

Anyone who uses nazi comparisons to discuss Israel immediately loses any credibility in my book. Not that you had much to begin with in my book.

When terrorists attack America, America responds by killing the terrorists. When terrorists attack Israel, Israel responds by killing non-Jews.

All one needs to do to realize how apt Israel/Nazi comparisons are is look toward the Palestinean ghettos.

[torchthebitch]

militants launch attacks at the defined opposition; the opposition eventually gets fed up and launches a response to the attackers; the media [particularly the BBC] (and leftist activists) ignore the original violence which precipitated the raid, and dub the incident “unprovoked aggression”;

Standard tactics of politically motivated violent organisations.

[zipman]

Originally Posted by blobfish

When terrorists attack America, America responds by killing the terrorists. When terrorists attack Israel, Israel responds by killing non-Jews.

All one needs to do to realize how apt Israel/Nazi comparisons are is look toward the Palestinean ghettos.

So when Israel warned palestinians to leave areas that they were going to attack to avoid civilian casualties that was trying to kill non-jews? The palestinians want civilians to be killed. That's why they fire from populated areas.

An when you talk about the ghetto/nazi comparison, are you also referring to the 12 camps in Lebannon, the 10 camps in Jordan and the 10 camps in Syria as well? Are those countries Nazis too?

[blobfish]

Originally Posted by zipman

So when Israel warned palestinians to leave areas that they were going to attack to avoid civilian casualties that was trying to kill non-jews? The palestinians want civilians to be killed. That's why they fire from populated areas.

An when you talk about the ghetto/nazi comparison, are you also referring to the 12 camps in Lebannon, the 10 camps in Jordan and the 10 camps in Syria as well? Are those countries Nazis too?

Yes, those countries are fascist. The difference is that they were not created and funded by the American taxpayer.

[zipman]

Originally Posted by blobfish

Yes, those countries are fascist. The difference is that they were not created and funded by the American taxpayer.

Funny, I thought Jordan was a constitutional monarchy. But I guess you know better.

And how is Israel supposed to kill terrorists without killing civilians when the Hamas terrorists use civilians as shields?

[Byron In Exile]

Originally Posted by zipman

Still pushing this utterly false and failed meme?

Pushing false and failed memes is pretty much his job here, now.

[Byron In Exile]

Originally Posted by blobfish

You were the only one.

Most libertarians hate Israel, because it's the shining symbol of American colonialism.

Or the last vestige of it.

[Byron In Exile]

Originally Posted by zipman

Hamas and the palestinians play idiots like you as fools. They attack Israel repeatedly and when Israel responds the Israelis are too blame.

Anyone who uses nazi comparisons to discuss Israel immediately loses any credibility in my book. Not that you had much to begin with in my book.

Jews did suffer, but they learned a lot from WWII.

They learned how certain tactics are more effective than others.

Most important of all, they learned that how you survive is less important than whether you survive.

[Byron In Exile]

Originally Posted by blobfish

When terrorists attack America, America responds by killing the terrorists. When terrorists attack Israel, Israel responds by killing non-Jews.

All one needs to do to realize how apt Israel/Nazi comparisons are is look toward the Palestinean ghettos.

That's almost correct, but I'd hold off on the part where America kills just the terrorists.

[Byron In Exile]

Originally Posted by zipman

So when Israel warned palestinians to leave areas that they were going to attack to avoid civilian casualties that was trying to kill non-jews?

And just where were they supposed to flee to?

Srsly?

[Beco]

Originally Posted by blobfish

Yes, those countries are fascist. The difference is that they were not created and funded by the American taxpayer.

Both Jordan and Lebanon get American aid, therefore, funded by us taxpayers

[zipman]

Originally Posted by Byron In Exile

And just where were they supposed to flee to?

Srsly?

They're not carpet bombing gaza. They warn citizens to try and minimize civilian casualties. Which is the exact opposite of what the Palestinians do.

So yes, Seriously.