Gaza

[Beco]

Originally Posted by blobfish

Hamas doesn't represent all Palestineans any more than the Mossad represents all Jews.

hey dum dum, the "Palestineans" elected Hamas to rule

also, Mossad is not the government of Israel

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Beco

hey dum dum, the "Palestineans" elected Hamas to rule

also, Mossad is not the government of Israel

And the Israelis armed Fatah so that Hamas couldn't impose civil order in Gaza. Then they blamed Hamas for failing to impose civil order. After, of course, bombing the fuck out of every Hamas police station in Gaza.

[Beco]

Originally Posted by SeanH

And the Israelis armed Fatah so that Hamas couldn't impose civil order in Gaza. Then they blamed Hamas for failing to impose civil order. After, of course, bombing the fuck out of every Hamas police station in Gaza.

oh stop

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Beco

oh stop

Anything factually wrong in my post?

[Beco]

Originally Posted by SeanH

Anything factually wrong in my post?

no, just everything.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Beco

no, just everything.

So Israel didn't arm Fatah after the Hamas election? Israel didn't bomb every police station in Gaza?

[Beco]

Originally Posted by SeanH

So Israel didn't arm Fatah after the Hamas election? Israel didn't bomb every police station in Gaza?

Dude no offense, I am depressed as it is...the last thing I want to do on a Friday night is debate the politics between Arabs and Israelis with you....

have a good night

[neci]

no idea on accuracy. just a found image.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Beco

Dude no offense, I am depressed as it is...the last thing I want to do on a Friday night is debate the politics between Arabs and Israelis with you....

have a good night

Go fuck yourself.

[blobfish]

Originally Posted by neci

no idea on accuracy. just a found image.

What is this supposed to mean? That Jerusalem is outside of the range of Hamas missiles?

[neci]

Originally Posted by blobfish

What is this supposed to mean? That Jerusalem is outside of the range of Hamas missiles?

jerusalem is about 70km from the border. that would be within the FAJR-5 range. note. i do not know missiles.

[blobfish]

Originally Posted by neci

jerusalem is about 70km from the border. that would be within the FAJR-5 range. note. i do not know missiles.

It makes me wonder how many of these missiles are purposefully allowed to enter Gaza in order to justify the coming Israeli genocide. They kill three Israelis, and Israel will kill hundreds of Palestineans.

[miles]

Looks like Sean has killed off several million more brain cells to the point where he's spewing nothing but drunken gibberish.

Hic.

Burp.

Thud.

[miles]

Originally Posted by blobfish

It makes me wonder how many of these missiles are purposefully allowed to enter Gaza in order to justify the coming Israeli genocide. They kill three Israelis, and Israel will kill hundreds of Palestineans.

If terrorists kill three Israelis then Israel should only kill three terrorists?

Are you nuts?

[miles]

Originally Posted by blobfish

Yup. Ironically, the Israeli government has become the Nazi Germany of our time.

I thought you were a normal person.

[RobDownSouth]

Originally Posted by SeanH

So Israel didn't arm Fatah after the Hamas election? Israel didn't bomb every police station in Gaza?

That....That....THAT'S DIFFERENT!

[Beco]

Originally Posted by miles

If terrorists kill three Israelis then Israel should only kill three terrorists?

Are you nuts?

Its an Eye for an Eye, Hammurabi's Code, nothing like a fresh view on things, no wonder nothing gets done

[Beco]

Originally Posted by blobfish

It makes me wonder how many of these missiles are purposefully allowed to enter Gaza in order to justify the coming Israeli genocide. They kill three Israelis, and Israel will kill hundreds of Palestineans.

Learn to spell Palestinians. Until then, nobody is going to take you seriously

[RobDownSouth]

Originally Posted by miles

If terrorists kill three Israelis then Israel should only kill three terrorists?

Are you nuts?

Remember who else used to justify reprisal killing of civilians?

[4est_4est_Gump]

Originally Posted by phrodeau

Israel didn't help liberate Iraq. Some reliability.

Originally Posted by torchthebitch

During the First Gulf War Iraq did everything they could to provoke an attack by Israel. The US deployed the ABMs to defend Israel and keep them out of it since they feared the coalition would collapse. The same applied to the Second GW. Had Israel participated the Islamic nations would all have jumped in, probably even Iran. Turkey would have denied use of their airbases and there would have been no northern assault.

But you knew all that.

He doesn't care. His thinking is compartmentalized, shallow and focused on the moment and like his buddies zip and St. Pete, that means that "discrediting" me is more important than the topic at hand. I do not know why I live in their head so rent free, but I do.

Their polity is not a one of positive conversation to win hearts and minds, but rather one of negativity; if they can poison the conversation so much that no one will participate, then they have won the "discussion" and then, as a result, never have to listen to, or entertain, any thoughts that come from outside the consensus.

As we can clearly see is that yesterday's thought was Israel bad, A_J bad, must attack, belittle and impugn lest someone actually listen to him or defend them. Damned dirty conservatives...

A_J's corollary #3, “The New Age Liberal maintains contradictory positions comfortably compartmentalized. (This is because the New Age Liberal is a creature that believes in consensus as a short-cut to an examination of the facts and a reasoned judgment about said facts. Corollary #2.)”

[4est_4est_Gump]

Originally Posted by phrodeau

Oh, so the amassing of the Coalition Of the Willing was meant to prevent a world war. That makes total sense.

See? They are married to the tactic.

Contemporary leftists, on the other hand, view their opponents as people you send off to the Gulag, unworthy of any respect, deserving of any kind of low blow, no matter how foul. So you accuse Goldwater of insanity, slander Justice Thomas as a sexual monster, casually publish plays, books, and films calling for the assassination of President Bush, and assault the first serious Republican female candidate at her weakest point -- her family. And of course, you scream to high heaven if any form of turnabout occurs in your direction, as in the case of the Obama family, which was declared "off limits" early in the presidential campaign, at the same time that Palin's family was being stretched on the media rack.

This style of political loathing has become effectively innate. It has been systemized to such a degree as to become integral. Modern liberalism cannot do without it. An entire structure has been erected on the basis of political hatred, and from that structure a whole new strategy has arisen.
J.R. Dunn

[RobDownSouth]

Originally Posted by Dances With Falsehoods

He doesn't care. His thinking is compartmentalized, shallow and focused on the moment and like his buddies zip and St. Pete, that means that "discrediting" me is more important than the topic at hand. I do not know why I live in their head so rent free, but I do.

Their polity is not a one of positive conversation to win hearts and minds, but rather one of negativity; if they can poison the conversation so much that no one will participate, then they have won the "discussion" and then, as a result, never have to listen to, or entertain, any thoughts that come from outside the consensus.

As we can clearly see is that yesterday's thought was Israel bad, A_J bad, must attack, belittle and impugn lest someone actually listen to him or defend them. Damned dirty conservatives...

A_J's corollary #3, “The New Age Liberal maintains contradictory positions comfortably compartmentalized. (This is because the New Age Liberal is a creature that believes in consensus as a short-cut to an examination of the facts and a reasoned judgment about said facts. Corollary #2.)”

Yeah, it's always about you.

Always.

And when it's not, you'll make it about you, somehow, some way.

That's what attention whores do.

Now tell me I'm on ignore, like a good little whore...

[4est_4est_Gump]

Originally Posted by akatrex

Correction: SEAL Team 6 Shot Osama Bin Laden, then sat on his chest on the way back to the Flat Top - USS Carl Vinson.

Thank God they Killed Osama Bin Laden or the Idiot Eric Holder would have wanted to Hold Court in Manhattan.

No way. Obama all the way.

You see, he has to have credit for he has become legend, a demi-god, infallible, omnipotent and beautiful to behold. For the Left, eight years will not be enough. He will now win this war for Hamas and Palestine, you watch. Those are the wrong kind of Jews. They are conservative. They must be pogromed. Obama is just the guy to get the job done.

Obama shot Osama.

Hail Obama!

[4est_4est_Gump]

Originally Posted by coastal-boy

If Hamas can't control their fringe elements, then it leaves Israel with no choice. Everyone wants to blame the other side. Both sides are to blame. But only one side was launching rockets first. I think Israel showed remarkable restraint. Now, Hamas has given them what Israel's leaders wanted...an excuse for a full invasion. Let's see, laser guided bombs and missiles, full control of the airspace, trained army fully equipped, tanks, artillery, satellites, drones vs stone throwing insane people. I wonder which side will win?

Your basic assumption is flawed. Hamas has no fringe. That is mainstream.

Hamas will win. The United World Left (in thought and polity) sees only the downtrodden. If you stand up against the downtrodden, you are an oppressor and advanced weaponry brought to bear upon victims is pretty much a crime against humanity while primitive rocket attacks are to be understood as a mere negotiation tactic.

This is the mindset too of the current american government.

[4est_4est_Gump]

As was predictable, the Brotherhood can now not control its "fringe" elements and rockets are hitting Israel from Egypt.


Just a band of happy-go-lucky secular community organizers.

Much preferable to Mubarak.