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09-22-2012, 03:32 AM
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能ある鷹は爪を隠す。
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Originally Posted by lovecraft68
Here I fixed this for you.
This is where the question of "What does this have to do with BDSM should be asked.
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Not at all, because BDSM lacks the letter C for consent and N for nice. Marquis de Sade was neither a nice man nor did he care much about consent. The porn industry made a Disney version out of his life - this doesn't mean sadism is only "true sadism" as the Disney version.
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09-22-2012, 03:36 AM
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Fisting is one of things that has long been on my 'to do' list. But somehow I seem to be the wrong shape or something. Never found a man who could get more than three fingers in without a lot ofvery bad pain. Of course, women have smaller hands, but I just don't play in that playground.
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09-22-2012, 02:52 PM
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A few members on this site know I LOVE fisting!!!! Being a young fister (in comparison to others I have spoke to), the act is not common but should definitely be explored to all limits  . Trust me, Im still pushing myself after a few years fisting.   |
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09-22-2012, 03:00 PM
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No Gentleman
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Originally Posted by Primalex
Not at all, because BDSM lacks the letter C for consent and N for nice. Marquis de Sade was neither a nice man nor did he care much about consent. The porn industry made a Disney version out of his life - this doesn't mean sadism is only "true sadism" as the Disney version.
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De Sade was a sadist, he didn't practice BDSM. He didn't give a fuck about consent. He only cared that his victims didn't actively prevent him from doing what he wanted, and he didn't care what stopped them from doing that.
osg and her Master practice BDSM -- osg consents to what happens to her. The particular guy she's talking about was purely a sadist, and lucky him, osg's Master is willing to hand her over to a guy like that-- and she has consented to be handed over. Whether or not the dude cared about her consent isn't important, that happens between her and her master. |
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09-22-2012, 04:34 PM
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lost little girl
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Originally Posted by Stella_Omega
De Sade was a sadist, he didn't practice BDSM. He didn't give a fuck about consent. He only cared that his victims didn't actively prevent him from doing what he wanted, and he didn't care what stopped them from doing that.
osg and her Master practice BDSM -- osg consents to what happens to her. The particular guy she's talking about was purely a sadist, and lucky him, osg's Master is willing to hand her over to a guy like that-- and she has consented to be handed over. Whether or not the dude cared about her consent isn't important, that happens between her and her master.
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BDSM is not defined by consent. de Sade did indeed engage in BDSM, by definition. the fact that he didn't care about having willing partners doesn't change that. |
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09-22-2012, 05:37 PM
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能ある鷹は爪を隠す。
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De Sade was a sadist, he didn't practice BDSM.
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This statement does not make any sense. If you are a sadist and live out your kink, you obviously do practice sadism and therefore bdSm. That he didn't pick masochistic partners does not matter at all.
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09-22-2012, 05:39 PM
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Sometime I enjoy watching fisting porn but I honestly can not even imagine someone doing it to me.
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09-23-2012, 05:31 AM
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I'm so confused...can we go back to talking about hands being put in holes??
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09-23-2012, 02:40 PM
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No Gentleman
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I'm so confused...can we go back to talking about hands being put in holes??
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I too first encountered vaginal fisting in a BDSM context. I think most vanilla people wouldn't think of it under normal circumstances, but I've enthusiastically spread the word in as many vanilla sex circles as I can! |
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09-23-2012, 04:33 PM
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Owned and happy
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Maybe it depends on what fisting symbolises for the couple? For us it is about ownership, as well as mutual pleasure.
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09-23-2012, 04:40 PM
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Really Really Experienced
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Tried. Didn't work. A man's hands are just too big, now a woman's might be fine.
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09-23-2012, 04:42 PM
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Owned and happy
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Tried. Didn't work. A man's hands are just too big, now a woman's might be fine.
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It didnt work for us the first time. But we experimented with positions and I was so determined to "accept the fist" it worked ,and Sir has Big hands!
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10-01-2012, 08:36 PM
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It Depends On The Woman.
I had a 22yo English sub who was camming for me and I aked her to strip. She stripped aand I told her to finger herself, and kept telling her to add an addition finger. She was so turned on and had no trouble actually fisting herself. She said that it was the first timje she had ever done it. As she loved to be caned and whipped and sent me pictures of her ass and back after some of these, I knew she liked the pain so I wasn;t surprised that she could fist herself.
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10-03-2012, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by night&day
I had a 22yo English sub who was camming for me and I aked her to strip. She stripped aand I told her to finger herself, and kept telling her to add an addition finger. She was so turned on and had no trouble actually fisting herself. She said that it was the first timje she had ever done it. As she loved to be caned and whipped and sent me pictures of her ass and back after some of these, I knew she liked the pain so I wasn;t surprised that she could fist herself.
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Pain and fisting should have nothing to do with each other.
But you should definitely fuck her IRL if she's that flexible.
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10-04-2012, 02:50 PM
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I love the feeling of having a man work his fingers and then his entire fist into me and then have him pound me hard with his fist inside me. I would like to try fisting someone as well, I can only imagine how hot that would feel.
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10-18-2012, 01:28 PM
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i have done it once and want it again for sure
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10-21-2012, 12:12 PM
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I think concent and desire for any sexual activity is important. At least in my book. Anything goes as long as both partners are ok with it and it doesn't cause permanent harm.
As for fisting, I've only done it with one woman who asked that it be done. Was working toward it with four fingers in her while licking her clit and she spoke up, "You know what I want don't you? You know I want you to fist me don't you?" So, with time and extra lube it was so. I never saw or heard a woman cum so intensly and scream so loud. It was a bit scary but also unbelievably hot. We did it several more times, but it was definately on the "sometimes but not all the time" list. I'd say if a woman does NOT want it, don't force it. I think she has to be super relaxed and receptive to it for it to be at all good for her.
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10-21-2012, 01:07 PM
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I was introduced to fisting by another girl and totally love giving and receiving, but it's more about making a connection and the pleasurable feelings than being any kind of BDSM play.
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10-21-2012, 03:58 PM
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>semiotics?
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People who are saying "this isn't BDSM" have no sense of freaking history. De Sade? Really? Heterocentric fantasy much? We've never really established how much of his writing was metaphor and wank.
Hello, THE SLATER SOCIETY. Reality.
Ever seen a photo of the catacombs? It's a row of slings. When I think "BDSM" I immediately see dudes, crisco, and a sling and moustaches, it's a knee jerk thing.
Fisting as a mutually pleasurable activity has been BDSM since before I was a twinkle in my daddy's eye. So there.
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10-21-2012, 04:30 PM
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i have only been fisted once or twice by a guy...i can fist myself almost no problem because my hands are tiny...but when it comes to a guys hand its impossible. im wayyy tooo tight to be fisted by a guy. but i sure as hell would love it :P
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10-21-2012, 05:29 PM
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Pet me! Pet me! Pet me!
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...him to continue doing who knows what, and that my Master knew this and was off somewhere very pleased at the thought of my suffering. He did not touch me sexually in any other way, and did not stop until i began bleeding (which i guess he didn't expect). my Master had to carry me out of the hotel, i could not walk or stand straight up for two days. on the ride home as i was curled in a ball in the backseat and still silently crying, he said, "good girl."
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10-21-2012, 07:30 PM
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Really Really Experienced
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I love when my Master fists me.... it is an extreme sensation for me - both physically and emotionally.
As for how that fits into BDSM, I happen to subscribe to the belief that the motivations and feelings of the people performing the acts are the deciding point more so than the act itself.
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10-25-2012, 06:53 AM
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Pain and fisting should have nothing to do with each other.
But you should definitely fuck her IRL if she's that flexible.
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I agree with Etoile, you should fuck her in real life. Not that many women are that flexible.
Few years ago Etoile posted about self fisting, She said be comfortable, she never said where to try it.
I tried it whilst on the bed, I am not that flexible and the bed is not that solid.
Toppled head first off said bed, nearly broke my wrist, ended up with bruises in odd places and I never managed self-fisting.
Not tried it since, but when I do I will start on the floor, comfort be damned!
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11-28-2012, 04:53 AM
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Have both given and received a fist. I have to say it was not necessarily about BDSM, or any kind of control over the other person. Although I could definitely understand where that element would come in. I thoroughly enjoyed both giving and receiving. It was with a female partner though, who definitely has smaller hands than most men I've met. I wouldn't consider myself to have particularly small hands, guess you'd have to ask her that though!
For us it was more about pushing our limits, seeing how far we could go and how good that would feel. I think most women, although potentially a little horrified by the idea on the surface, wonder how it would feel. I mean if enough people are doing it, something has got to be right about it, right?
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