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Old 07-02-2014, 12:57 PM   #1
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85 percent of ObamaCare ‘inconsistencies’ can’t be fixed

http://nypost.com/2014/07/02/85-perc...cant-be-fixed/

"WASHINGTON — Federal officials can’t resolve 85 percent of 2.9 million “inconsistencies” on applications for ObamaCare even after nine months of trying, according to new data provided by the administration.

Most of the problems involve certifying citizenship and income, key components of the national health plan.

But some of the problems are downright nutty.

One unidentified state-run marketplace cited situations in which infants and young children were “erroneously identified as incarcerated, according to federal data,” the inspector general for the Health and Human Services Department revealed Tuesday.

Just 425,000 problematic applications have been resolved out of 2.9 million that states and the federal exchange reported, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services told The Post.

Only citizens are eligible for ObamaCare, and only people at certain income levels are eligible for tax credits and subsidies.

But in 77 percent of the applications under scrutiny, federal records differed from what applicants submitted on those two key qualifications.

The CMS responded that the agency is “committed to verifying the eligibility of consumers who apply for enrollment in qualified plans.”"

What a clusterfuck.
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:07 PM   #2
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Toubab hates Obamacare
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:11 PM   #3
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Toubab hates Obamacare
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For once, you're almost right, because detestation is pretty close to hatred.
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:13 PM   #4
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For once, you're almost right, because detestation is pretty close to hatred.
I'd go with obsessive foamin'-at-the-mouth hatred, but I won't quibble.

All those millions of folks who now have the same sort of access to health care....the same health care you routinely take for granted...that really pains your soul, doesn't it?
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Just a few "glitches."



The law is still sound, widely loved and the law of the land, except when it hurts Democrats, then President Obama changes it.
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:16 PM   #6
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Just a few "glitches."



The law is still sound, widely loved and the law of the land, except when it hurts Democrats, then President Obama changes it.
When that "daughter" of yours comes home from public school (which she now attends after your failed homeskooling experiment), do you routinely beat her if she brings home a test with a grade less than 100%?
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:17 PM   #7
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I'd go with obsessive foamin'-at-the-mouth hatred, but I won't quibble.

All those millions of folks who now have the same sort of access to health care....the same health care you routinely take for granted...that really pains your soul, doesn't it?
Your view of Obamacare is very different than mine. I see it as a gigantic pile of shit that may have improved some lives, somehow, but has made the lives of many more worse, and will continue to do so.
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:17 PM   #8
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Your view of Obamacare is very different than mine. I see it as a gigantic pile of shit that that may have improved some lives, somehow, but has made the lives of many more worse, and will continue to do so.
Oh, now THIS is interesting.

Please share with us exactly what has been made "worse" in the lives of many.

This oughta be good....
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Your view of Obamacare is very different than mine. I see it as a gigantic pile of shit that that may have improved some lives, somehow, but has made the lives of many more worse, and will continue to do so.
Throb's the Lord of the Flies when it comes to a pile of shit...



... do us all a favor and put him on ignore. He's really a Tea Party plant trying to destroy the image of Democrats.
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:23 PM   #10
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Oh, now THIS is interesting.

Please share with us exactly what has been made "worse" in the lives of many.

This oughta be good....
Here's an example:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/la...nst-xerox-dies

"Woman in class-action lawsuit against Xerox dies"

"Time ran out for Linda Rolain.

The Las Vegas woman died Monday, less than two weeks after her family went public with details about Nevada Health Link insurance exchange enrollment troubles that kept her from treatment in January for an aggressive brain tumor.

Rolain was one of about 150 Nevadans suing Nevada Health Link contractor Xerox for enrollment mix-ups that left them without the health insurance they paid for.

Rolain is the first to die of complications from an illness said to have gone untreated for lack of coverage. But observers close to her case say she may not be the last.

“We are worried that this is the first of many Nevadans who have life-threatening issues that may end up in such tragic circumstances. We urge all Nevadans to verify that their insurance is active and in place in light of the many problems that hundreds, if not thousands, of Nevadans have gone through,” Rolain’s law firm, Callister, Immerman and Associates, said in a statement.

Local insurance broker Pat Casale, who in May began to help Rolain with her enrollment issues, said he wouldn’t be surprised if there were at least another 100 Nevadans facing both coverage problems and “urgent and emergent” health care needs.

“I know a few that I have right now (are) in serious need of care — people who have actually paid premiums and have not received care,” Casale said.

Rolain’s husband, Robert, said the couple began trying to sign up in November, well ahead of the Dec. 15 deadline for January coverage. After wrestling with repeated sign-up problems, the Rolains bought a plan that took effect in March. But they said Xerox staffers miscommunicated the policy’s effective date, so they didn’t know until May that they had coverage.

Linda Rolain was first diagnosed with a brain tumor in early 2014, after a seizure in late 2013. Robert Rolain said in a June 19 news conference at the downtown Las Vegas offices of Callister, Immerman and Associates that his wife’s care was delayed for months because of their insurance troubles.

Robert Rolain alleges his wife’s tumor went from treatable in winter to fatal in spring as the couple fought for coverage.

Linda Rolain was admitted to hospice care in early June.

A Xerox spokesman said in a statement that the company would not “be able to comment on this tragic development.” A spokesman for Nevada Health Link was out of town Tuesday and could not be reached for comment.

Casale blamed the coverage mishap on Xerox’s “ineptitude” and “inability to get paperwork and to process things through to” the Rolains’ insurer, Nevada Health CO-OP.

“This poor lady was told in January that she needed immediate attention,” Casale said. “Her doctor said if she had begun treatment in March, he might been able to give her quality of care, and she might have lived longer. She had no chance because of the delay.

“Ms. Rolain should have had coverage in January. (The Rolains) did everything they could to facilitate the acquisition of a health plan,” Casale added. “She suffered and she died all because of the negligence of a vendor who should not even be in the industry.”

The Silver State Health Insurance Exchange signed a $72 million contract with Xerox in 2012 to build Nevada Health Link. But software glitches kept legions of consumers from enrolling in plans when the health link opened on Oct. 1. The exchange enrolled just a third of the 118,000 sign-ups it targeted in its first year.

The exchange’s board decided in May to replace Xerox as the health link’s contractor. The exchange will borrow federal eligibility and enrollment functions in November while it looks for a permanent replacement system for 2015’s enrollment session.

Callister, Immerman and Associates filed its class action lawsuit on April 1 after Las Vegan Larry Basich ran up $407,000 in uncovered medical bills despite paying several months’ worth of premiums through Nevada Health Link.

Attorney Matthew Callister said on June 19 that he would seek faster legal action for gravely ill patients, including Linda Rolain.

“Some of our clients are so ill that if their needs are not addressed now, it is a matter of life and death,” Callister said."
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:25 PM   #11
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http://nypost.com/2014/07/02/85-perc...cant-be-fixed/

"WASHINGTON — Federal officials can’t resolve 85 percent of 2.9 million “inconsistencies” on applications for ObamaCare even after nine months of trying, according to new data provided by the administration.

Most of the problems involve certifying citizenship and income, key components of the national health plan.

But some of the problems are downright nutty.

One unidentified state-run marketplace cited situations in which infants and young children were “erroneously identified as incarcerated, according to federal data,” the inspector general for the Health and Human Services Department revealed Tuesday.

Just 425,000 problematic applications have been resolved out of 2.9 million that states and the federal exchange reported, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services told The Post.

Only citizens are eligible for ObamaCare, and only people at certain income levels are eligible for tax credits and subsidies.

But in 77 percent of the applications under scrutiny, federal records differed from what applicants submitted on those two key qualifications.

The CMS responded that the agency is “committed to verifying the eligibility of consumers who apply for enrollment in qualified plans.”"

What a clusterfuck.

If you can't trust the citizens to tell the truth ....
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:26 PM   #12
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Throb's the Lord of the Flies when it comes to a pile of shit...



... do us all a favor and put him on ignore. He's really a Tea Party plant trying to destroy the image of Democrats.
No, I don't put people on ignore. And I take him at his word that he is not unhappy with Obamacare. We just disagree. Greatly.
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No, I don't put people on ignore. And I take him at his word that he is not unhappy with Obamacare. We just disagree. Greatly.
He would not be honest with you if he was unhappy with it. It would mean admitting that he was wrong, made a mistake, or was misled.

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Old 07-02-2014, 01:36 PM   #14
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He would not be honest with you if he was unhappy with it. It would mean admitting that he was wrong, made a mistake, or was misled.

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You could be right about that. And that probably applies to many people here, and all over the country.
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:36 PM   #15
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Throb's the Lord of the Flies when it comes to a pile of shit...



... do us all a favor and put him on ignore. He's really a Tea Party plant trying to destroy the image of Democrats.
Poor AJ, it's not enough that he has me on ignore...
He wants everyone to put me on ignore.

Why do people keep quoting folks he disagrees with? *sob*
His life is so difficult.
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No, I don't put people on ignore. And I take him at his word that he is not unhappy with Obamacare. We just disagree. Greatly.
Just to clarify here (and I thank you for doing your best not to put words in my mouth)...I'm not "not unhappy" with Obamacare, I'm think Obamacare is a great improvement over the previous trainwreck that passed for health insurance in America, and it's an evolutionary step on the road to single payer, which of course is the ultimate goal.

But you are right, we do disagree.

...but that doesn't make you any less wrong!
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You could be right about that. And that probably applies to many people here, and all over the country.
I was here years before Throb showed up.

Of course I know that which I speak of.

When Obama was running against Bush's third term Throb was all over it, happy to see that everything Bush did would be undone because all of it was lies, illegal acts, crony Capitalism, yada, yada, yada...



And then President Obama got elected, continued the Bush policies and practices and Throb stood proudly and cheered. He is a team player. He is also not a member in good standing of the Human Race.
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Just to clarify here (and I thank you for doing your best not to put words in my mouth)...I'm not "not unhappy" with Obamacare, I'm think Obamacare is a great improvement over the previous trainwreck that passed for health insurance in America, and it's an evolutionary step on the road to single payer, which of course is the ultimate goal.

But you are right, we do disagree.

...but that doesn't make you any less wrong!
I view it as an impediment to single-payer. And purposely designed and instituted as such. But go ahead and keep defending it, if it makes you feel good. We're stuck with the damn thing now, anyway, and there isn't a damn thing any of us who don't like it can do to rid ourselves of it, because there are too many like you, who support it, and vote for those who created it.
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He would not be honest with you if he was unhappy with it. It would mean admitting that he was wrong, made a mistake, or was misled.

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Unlike you and your fellow Vietnam-era Marine bros, I have no problem whatsoever admitting mistakes.
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But in 77 percent of the applications under scrutiny, federal records differed from what applicants submitted on those two key qualifications.
Sounds more like a problem with federal records, rather than the ACA. Or rather, a mismatch between ACA applications and existing federal records.
We all know what's going to win out when there's a discrepancy between what an individual says (the application) and that the government says about us (the federal records).

When you go to buy a plane ticket but find you can't because you're on the DHS no-fly list, do you blame the airline?

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I view it as an impediment to single-payer. And purposely designed and instituted as such.
I'd have to agree. And we all know which party forced it to be that.
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Toubab hates Obamacare
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He's leaving no doubt about his idiocy and obsessions, that's for sure!

I guess it happens when you're scared of your own shadow.
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Sounds more like a problem with federal records, rather than the ACA. Or rather, a mismatch between ACA applications and existing federal records.
We all know what's going to win out when there's a discrepancy between what an individual says (the application) and that the government says about us (the federal records).

When you go to buy a plane ticket but find you can't because you're on the DHS no-fly list, do you blame the airline?

I'd have to agree. And we all know which party forced it to be that.
It's amazing the lengths some of you go to defend this clusterfuck. It's all the fault of Obamacare, 100%, which was created by the federal government, 100%, and more specifically by the Democrats and a couple of their caucus partners in Congress, and Obama, 100%. You can try to blame the Republicans for making them do it, but intelligent people know better. The Republicans voted no.
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He's leaving no doubt about his idiocy and obsessions, that's for sure!

I guess it happens when you're scared of your own shadow.
Idiot.
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Rob knows Obamacare is a failure, he can't wait to shift to full on communism with a single payer system. He has health problems he wants everyone else to pay for even if it means oppressing the entire nation.
If so, he's going to have a long wait. Obamacare is dug in.
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