I just applied..

[sdnt]

Originally Posted by CutieMouse

Ya know, it's really cool that you're embracing your kinky side and exploring and all, but I can't help but feel compelled to point out "pornified BDSM" is rarely the same as "real life BDSM"... mostly because "real life BDSM" doesn't follow a script [based on a poorly written piece of erotica].

Not denying that.

Originally Posted by SashaGaga999

most of the films on Kink.com aren't scripted, and the ones that do follow a minimal script are usually pretty well done...i really like some of the "kink.com mini movies" they've done...there's this one where a (lucky) girl is locked in a mental hospital and gets fucked/forced to give blowjobs all night every night, and the warden pretends not to believe her but is really just looking the other way...

im gonna go watch that right now, actually...

I've seen that one.

Originally Posted by CutieMouse

My point was that BDSM as a paid/filmed gig is probably far less representative of day to day BDSM. Is this about experiencing BDSM, or doing something "risqué"? If the goal is to rock on with yo' bad self and have some kinky sex/get paid for a theatrical gig... Kick ass. Have fun. But *that* is theater; not necessarily BDSM.

(Yes I know there are a gazillion people out there who do the whole costumed pirate rape blahblahblah BDSM thing... I suspect I'm getting too old and jaded for this stuff anymore.)

The majority of why is about having a really good time with something I really wanna try. It's an opportunity to explore with all these machines and devices and contraptions. I don't know, maybe I'm caught in the glitz and glam. Oh well, it's sent in.

[sdnt]

Originally Posted by Elphie70

Big fan of Mark Davis, very big fan. Good luck. And I do subscribe to sex and submission. Maybe I will see you on the series.

Thank you =)

[Stella_Omega]

My point was that BDSM as a paid/filmed gig is probably far less representative of day to day BDSM. Is this about experiencing BDSM, or doing something "risqué"? If the goal is to rock on with yo' bad self and have some kinky sex/get paid for a theatrical gig... Kick ass. Have fun. But *that* is theater; not necessarily BDSM.

Really? How are you defining BDSM?

ETA:

You know how I mock the Great European Houses fantasy well-- the Armoury seems to me to be the closest thing to an actual Great House that exists.

[CutieMouse]

Originally Posted by Stella_Omega

Really? How are you defining BDSM?

ETA:

You know how I mock the Great European Houses fantasy well-- the Armoury seems to me to be the closest thing to an actual Great House that exists.

I define BDSM as a power exchange (through dominance/submission, bondage, sadism/masochism), either temporarily negotiated (top/bottom)or more long lasting (dominant/submissive or master/slave).

*To me*, signing up to do a video based on an unrealistic piece of fiction is just that - signing up to do a video based on an unrealistic piece of fiction. *To me* it's an example of a paid porn gig - not necessarily an example of BDSM. (I also acknowledge that I tend to look at things like this in a very black/white way.)

[Keroin]

I'm not advocating one way or the other. But this from the OP's intro post in the cafe...

...I'm into the romantic, passionate, fiery "vanilla" (as I've learned it's called lol) sex. I don't have any experiences, as all but two of my 9 exes have been virgins, and no one ever came across to me as wanting to play things like that out.. I have no idea how to bring up that topic with anyone, though.

...makes me wonder about the wisdom of this choice.

[Stella_Omega]

Originally Posted by CutieMouse

I define BDSM as a power exchange (through dominance/submission, bondage, sadism/masochism), either temporarily negotiated (top/bottom)or more long lasting (dominant/submissive or master/slave).

I don't think top/bottom equals "temporarily negotiated" or, necessarily, a power exchange. Nor do I think that D/s necessarily has to be longer lasting. You're applying values to labels that should not have values.

*To me*, signing up to do a video based on an unrealistic piece of fiction is just that - signing up to do a video based on an unrealistic piece of fiction. *To me* it's an example of a paid porn gig - not necessarily an example of BDSM. (I also acknowledge that I tend to look at things like this in a very black/white way.)

I betcha that if you're tied down and whipped, or stuck in the middle of a forced sex scene, or cleaning toilets with a scrub brush attached to your gag-- it's going to be as close to BDSM as any other thing you've ever done.

Again, you're attaching values inappropriately.

[satindesire]

...If you don't want to be a porn star, why are you applying to be in a pro porn movie?

I thought that was...the very definition of porn star?

[Stella_Omega]

Originally Posted by satindesire

...If you don't want to be a porn star, why are you applying to be in a pro porn movie?

I thought that was...the very definition of porn star?

She's applying to experience a four day immersion in an incredibly detailed fantasy setting. How often do any of us get to do that? Yes, it will be filmed. Which makes me kinda sad-- with all the middle aged spread I got, I know that I Am Not Worthy to be on film. If this had been around back in my salad days, oh baby, I would have wept tears of joy.

Getting paid? I would be glad of the money.

Which brings up another point. Presumably, if one were well off, one could place oneself in the Armory for four days, paying the inhabitants. How many women do you know who could afford that? Agreeing to be filmed makes it possible. I would have wanted it SO BAD I would have been JUST FINE with being filmed.


Now, stop being such a prissy puritan, although you do look adorable in that grey dress.

[satindesire]

Originally Posted by Stella_Omega

She's applying to experience a four day immersion in an incredibly detailed fantasy setting. How often do any of us get to do that? Yes, it will be filmed. Which makes me kinda sad-- with all the middle aged spread I got, I know that I Am Not Worthy to be on film. If this had been around back in my salad days, oh baby, I would have wept tears of joy.

Getting paid? I would be glad of the money.

Which brings up another point. Presumably, if one were well off, one could place oneself in the Armory for four days, paying the inhabitants. How many women do you know who could afford that? Agreeing to be filmed makes it possible. I would have wanted it SO BAD I would have been JUST FINE with being filmed.


Now, stop being such a prissy puritan, although you do look adorable in that grey dress.

Uhhh...no. I'm not being a prissy puritan. I'm merely pointing out that it's kind of silly for her to think that she's not going to be a porn star when she's STARRING in a PORN.

ETA: If I was a prissy puritan, would I really have semi-to-nude pictures up on this site? Or detail out my sex life? I think you're completely taking me as like, bashing her or something, when I never even implied anything of the sort. So. Yeah, I'm rather confused by you right now.

[Stella_Omega]

Originally Posted by satindesire

Uhhh...no. I'm not being a prissy puritan. I'm merely pointing out that it's kind of silly for her to think that she's not going to be a porn star when she's STARRING in a PORN.

ETA: If I was a prissy puritan, would I really have semi-to-nude pictures up on this site? Or detail out my sex life? I think you're completely taking me as like, bashing her or something, when I never even implied anything of the sort. So. Yeah, I'm rather confused by you right now.

Hmm. I must have misread intent, which is easy nough on the internet. . or you know-- there's a difference between being in a porn film and being a porn star-- or even a porn actor/ress.

There's doing it once-- To do it more than once is another matter.

[sdnt]

Originally Posted by Keroin

I'm not advocating one way or the other. But this from the OP's intro post in the cafe...

...makes me wonder about the wisdom of this choice.

Originally Posted by satindesire

...If you don't want to be a porn star, why are you applying to be in a pro porn movie?

I thought that was...the very definition of porn star?

No, I suppose a "porn star" would be more as an actress who has sex in bright lights with cameras everywhere everyday. With hair stylists, wardrobe, setting. I don't want to be that.

Originally Posted by Stella_Omega

She's applying to experience a four day immersion in an incredibly detailed fantasy setting. How often do any of us get to do that? Yes, it will be filmed. Which makes me kinda sad-- with all the middle aged spread I got, I know that I Am Not Worthy to be on film. If this had been around back in my salad days, oh baby, I would have wept tears of joy.

Getting paid? I would be glad of the money.

Which brings up another point. Presumably, if one were well off, one could place oneself in the Armory for four days, paying the inhabitants. How many women do you know who could afford that? Agreeing to be filmed makes it possible. I would have wanted it SO BAD I would have been JUST FINE with being filmed.

The part in bold just has such an allure to it. And for the orange part, the building is beautiful, the inside is lavished with history and fantasy, combined. My hope is that I enjoy everything my senses will allow me to, if I am accepted.

Originally Posted by satindesire

I'm merely pointing out that it's kind of silly for her to think that she's not going to be a porn star when she's STARRING in a PORN.

Well, maybe I'm just a silly person.

Originally Posted by Stella_Omega

Hmm. I must have misread intent, which is easy nough on the internet. . or you know-- there's a difference between being in a porn film and being a porn star-- or even a porn actor/ress.

There's doing it once-- To do it more than once is another matter.

Very nice way of putting it. I probably couldn't have thought of any better words to piece together, thank you.

[satindesire]

I guess I have to disagree. There's a permanence to doing something like this online in a professional setting.

Once you have a baby, you're always a mother. Once you get elected to mayor, you're always a politician, once you publish a book, you're always an author.

If she was filming herself and her boyfriend fucking and having that for her and her boyfriend's fun, not so much of a porn star there, but being paid to be in a porn movie by a professional company? You do that once, and that film is forever. In my eyes, that's the very definition of porn star.

I have no problem with that. If you want to do porn, go do porn! Have fun! But to say you're not going to be a porn star when you're being paid to star in a professional porn film doesn't make sense to me at all. It feels like you want to avoid the stigma of the title while still getting paid to perform.

[sdnt]

Originally Posted by satindesire

I guess I have to disagree. There's a permanence to doing something like this online in a professional setting.

Once you have a baby, you're always a mother. Once you get elected to mayor, you're always a politician, once you publish a book, you're always an author.

If she was filming herself and her boyfriend fucking and having that for her and her boyfriend's fun, not so much of a porn star there, but being paid to be in a porn movie by a professional company? You do that once, and that film is forever. In my eyes, that's the very definition of porn star.

I have no problem with that. If you want to do porn, go do porn! Have fun! But to say you're not going to be a porn star when you're being paid to star in a professional porn film doesn't make sense to me at all. It feels like you want to avoid the stigma of the title while still getting paid to perform.

Okay, well thank you.

[Stella_Omega]

It feels like you want to avoid the stigma of the title while still getting paid to perform.

NO, she wants the chance to experience something that can, basically, only be experienced in this film-making setting.

Do you know of a setup anyway similar, that we could even afford? I sure don't.

[sdnt]

Originally Posted by Stella_Omega

NO, she wants the chance to experience something that can, basically, only be experienced in this film-making setting.

Do you know of a setup anyway similar, that we could even afford? I sure don't.

And it's the professionals/porn stars that get it done in a beautiful light.

[Hajar]

I don't post much, but I have to ask, have you ever played before? Do you know and understand your limits?
You do realize that you maybe recognized even with a name change?

[zathras52003]

Something else you might consider - take some time to speak to actresses who have appeared previously. If memory serves, a Kink.com fan just appeared in one of the videos. Cute redhead. She (if the company were willing to put you in touch) might be able to give you the plusses and minuses and give you a better idea what to expect. Kudos to you- just make sure you are watching out for your future. I don't think you have to expect any problems w/Kink.com, it is everyone else in your life that will be the unknown.

[sdnt]

Originally Posted by Hajar

I don't post much, but I have to ask, have you ever played before? Do you know and understand your limits?
You do realize that you maybe recognized even with a name change?

Yes, pretty much, and if that does happen, then.. It happens. I'll deal with it then.

Originally Posted by zathras52003

Something else you might consider - take some time to speak to actresses who have appeared previously. If memory serves, a Kink.com fan just appeared in one of the videos. Cute redhead. She (if the company were willing to put you in touch) might be able to give you the plusses and minuses and give you a better idea what to expect. Kudos to you- just make sure you are watching out for your future. I don't think you have to expect any problems w/Kink.com, it is everyone else in your life that will be the unknown.

Mhm. Well after every scene, they take about a minute or two to talk to the participant and how she felt about the experience. The girls who tried the Training of O seemed genuine in their last "goodbyes" through the webcam videos they recorded after everything happened. They seemed to be in their bedroom, dressed like a normal person, talking tongue tied to an actual audience.

[zathras52003]

Originally Posted by sdnt

Mhm. Well after every scene, they take about a minute or two to talk to the participant and how she felt about the experience. The girls who tried the Training of O seemed genuine in their last "goodbyes" through the webcam videos they recorded after everything happened. They seemed to be in their bedroom, dressed like a normal person, talking tongue tied to an actual audience.

Not denying that. I am sure that if they are picking their models/actresses right, they enjoy the experience. I would hope.

I am looking more at the 3-6 months down the road. Did they have any family issues? Did they get any stalkers? Were there any regrets? Any issues with their significant other?

I can fully understand your interest in doing it- the women seem to be having a lot of fun living out some of their fantasies and it appears that their boundaries are respected. I would caution you to consider all of the ramifications by talking to someone who has been through it.

Now- I am making the assumption that they can broadcast your audition video like the other auditions on the site. If they agree to only release it with your permission - that lessens the potential for problems. If they have broadcast rights- think carefully.

Put another way- would you put up pictures from a previous BDSM session on this board?

[sdnt]

Originally Posted by zathras52003

Not denying that. I am sure that if they are picking their models/actresses right, they enjoy the experience. I would hope.

I am looking more at the 3-6 months down the road. Did they have any family issues? Did they get any stalkers? Were there any regrets? Any issues with their significant other?

I can fully understand your interest in doing it- the women seem to be having a lot of fun living out some of their fantasies and it appears that their boundaries are respected. I would caution you to consider all of the ramifications by talking to someone who has been through it.

Now- I am making the assumption that they can broadcast your audition video like the other auditions on the site. If they agree to only release it with your permission - that lessens the potential for problems. If they have broadcast rights- think carefully.

Put another way- would you put up pictures from a previous BDSM session on this board?

I don't know how their lives went about after that.

And like I said, I've read the contract and everything on the site so I could fully understand it. I don't mean to make a fool out of myself. I know what I want, in perspective and different points of view, I get the warnings and "scoldings" of what everyone's saying, but I know what I want.

As for the pictures... Maybe

[zathras52003]

Originally Posted by sdnt

I don't know how their lives went about after that.

And like I said, I've read the contract and everything on the site so I could fully understand it. I don't mean to make a fool out of myself. I know what I want, in perspective and different points of view, I get the warnings and "scoldings" of what everyone's saying, but I know what I want.

As for the pictures... Maybe

Sorry- I really don't want to come off as scolding. I do want you to be okay/safe/etc- same as anyone else. A suggested method to ensure that is a little research. More power to you if you ultimately decide it is your "thing."

[bambikiller]

It looks like you've made up your mind to do it.
You heard pleanty of reasons (including mine) why you might not want to do it.
From your answers you still seem deturmind to do it.

So go for it and report back.
This thread should now die untill then.

[sdnt]

Originally Posted by zathras52003

Sorry- I really don't want to come off as scolding. I do want you to be okay/safe/etc- same as anyone else. A suggested method to ensure that is a little research. More power to you if you ultimately decide it is your "thing."

Thanks.

Originally Posted by bambikiller

It looks like you've made up your mind to do it.
You heard pleanty of reasons (including mine) why you might not want to do it.
From your answers you still seem deturmind to do it.

So go for it and report back.
This thread should now die untill then.

Are you going to kill it like you killed Bambi?

[bambikiller]

At least I got to eat bambi.

You, I'll just have to watch on the net.

Have fun

[sdnt]

Originally Posted by bambikiller

At least I got to eat bambi.

You, I'll just have to watch on the net.

Have fun

Thanks. And just curious. How does venison taste?