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Old 12-06-2011, 01:59 PM   #1
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Unhappy Seriously, there's like no good gay porn out there .. or ... ?

So, I've looked and looked everywhere, and I have not found at all any good guy-guy porn worth wanking off to. I mean, seriously man! You've got your X-Art and your ORGASMS studios doing some good stuff, and there's a LOT of very decent stuff out there for the straight (or *closet* straight-curious) guys out there, but no *real* gay stuff.

Here's what I would like to watch :

There's two (or more) guys in the scene, right .. +points if they're real, everyday people ... there's a hairless, smooth bottom, and a (maybe hairy) top. The bottom guy sucks and gets the top hard. The top fucks the bottom ... the bottom cums a couple of times, and then the top comes too.

Simple as that. You would have imagined that somebody, somewhere would have made a decent video of this somewhere. Well, I haven't found it.

Hunks doing hunks does nothing for me. There's no relationship dynamic. I want one to dominate, and (maybe more than) one to submit. That's the crux. You have to have the relationship dynamic for it to be hot.

And can't they find guys who're really into each other, for once? I mean, it shows when they don't want to kiss; don't make 'em do it. Find some who do want to.

We need some real good talent in the guy-guy porn business. Comments?
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:25 PM   #2
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I haven't been looking at gay porn in a while, but I am not surprised to hear this. The dynamic in porn seems to be: something gets produced, it sells okay, and everything after that gets produced in the exact same way. The producers think that it's selling because people want it that way, but people will take any thing they can get, and kind of fill in the blanks to make it better.

Unless-- they can't fill in any blanks, and nothing will make it seem like what they are looking for.

take a look at http://sexisnottheenemy.tumblr.com/

If something seems like a taste of what you're looking for, see if you can follow it back to the source. I've found some decent lesbian stuff that way.
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Seriously? Cause I for one don't think there's any good bi porn, at all. Usually in the mmf porns there's always two gay guys and a girl. They barely even notices the girl is there, and pay little attention to her. She is basically there to watch two guys fuck, and give one of them a blow job.

But then again I am not surprised since the porn industry caters to their male viewers, and is dominated by the male species.

Gay porn on the other hand I have seen some decent flicks. I get my porn fix at pornhub, youporn,xhamster, and ********* they usually have decent gay porn. You could try there.
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Old 12-06-2011, 05:56 PM   #4
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What a cool site, Stella. Thanks!
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What a cool site, Stella. Thanks!
Lucy, did you get to it? because I had the url borked. it's fixed now.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:53 PM   #6
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Either that or you could open your mind to the "studio porn". I mean, really, is it such a big deal enjoying a porno anymore. Either it has to be amateur or it has to be this or that. It gets very old listening to people gripe about it, you know?

Also, have you tried my Male to Male Vids thread?
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Lucy, did you get to it? because I had the url borked. it's fixed now.
Yeah, I figured it out. :-) That's how I knew it was good.
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After browsing through about 50 pages of "Sexisnottheenemy" I kinda want to declare myself pansexual and go make some porn.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:02 AM   #9
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I guess this is my attraction to Amateur/homemade straight, gay, I know the models are hardly the Adonis or Cleopatra.... and the camera work had to be desired....to me, it's the realism....someone down the street making a homemade porn vid or pix and posting them for the world to see....
Though I do still like the porn for the 80's.....now call classic of vintage. shoot I don't watch porn for the dialog.....hehe
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:42 AM   #10
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That's so true.What's also
true is that rarely do you
ever see ones where one
of the guys is at first really
hesitant and nervous, basically
taking
persistant harrasement from
the other guy.

Most gay porn lacks interesting
dynamics that's true.Then again,
so does most straight sex porn.
Very Vanilla, very predictable.
Then again, so are many people
in real life. Straight or gay.

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Old 12-07-2011, 11:47 AM   #11
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Seriously? Cause I for one don't think there's any good bi porn, at all. Usually in the mmf porns there's always two gay guys and a girl. They barely even notices the girl is there, and pay little attention to her. She is basically there to watch two guys fuck, and give one of them a blow job.

But then again I am not surprised since the porn industry caters to their male viewers, and is dominated by the male species.

Gay porn on the other hand I have seen some decent flicks. I get my porn fix at pornhub, youporn,xhamster, and ********* they usually have decent gay porn. You could try there.
Which is the last one? I didn't get it

Yeah, I think amateur's currently the way to go ... there's some really nice amateur stuff out there .. I generally get my stuff at X Tube, Tube8, XVideos ... they've got a dedicated "gay" section ...

The thing about lesbian porn is that, there's a huge demand for it. Even I enjoy watching some girl-on-girl once in a while; there's some really nice stuff there. But guy-on-guy, well, the community is limited. There's no need for innovation there, because the demographic is a small percentage as compared to that of regular porn.

Its not hard to make intelligent people; I guess the problem is that not many intelligent minds go into this business in the first place, and even those that do are possibly unwilling to produce material for a minority of the (paying) audience.
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NO, there really isn't. There's a huge demand for "two porn starlets fingering each other and making porn faces for the male viewers" porn. "girl on girl" is not lesbian.
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So, I've looked and looked everywhere, and I have not found at all any good guy-guy porn worth wanking off to. I mean, seriously man! You've got your X-Art and your ORGASMS studios doing some good stuff, and there's a LOT of very decent stuff out there for the straight (or *closet* straight-curious) guys out there, but no *real* gay stuff.

Here's what I would like to watch :

There's two (or more) guys in the scene, right .. +points if they're real, everyday people ... there's a hairless, smooth bottom, and a (maybe hairy) top. The bottom guy sucks and gets the top hard. The top fucks the bottom ... the bottom cums a couple of times, and then the top comes too.

Simple as that. You would have imagined that somebody, somewhere would have made a decent video of this somewhere. Well, I haven't found it.

Hunks doing hunks does nothing for me. There's no relationship dynamic. I want one to dominate, and (maybe more than) one to submit. That's the crux. You have to have the relationship dynamic for it to be hot.

And can't they find guys who're really into each other, for once? I mean, it shows when they don't want to kiss; don't make 'em do it. Find some who do want to.

We need some real good talent in the guy-guy porn business. Comments?
You have GOT to be joking.

Young, skinny, smooth, smaller bottom being fucked by older, muscular, larger, hairy top is a dime a dozen AND boring! As far as I'm concerned the only difference between that and boring, missionary sex heterosexual porn is that the "female" role is played by someone who had a dick and has to get penetrated in a different hole. Othere wise, it is the same dull stuff.

Whether you are talking about literature or photos/videos, gay porn with the young-skinny-smooth-bottom getting fucked that has been around for decades. Having two muscular guys is a step up, but still not as common.

I couldn't care less whether there is one guy dominating the other, or if it is mutual equality. All I ask is that the more muscular, more hairy, more manly guy be the one with a cock in his mouth and up his ass. Otherwise, I'd just assume take a nap, watch Sesame Street, or Lawrence Welks reruns -- any of which I would find tons more interesting then that same-old boring gay porn stereotypes.
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NO, there really isn't. There's a huge demand for "two porn starlets fingering each other and making porn faces for the male viewers" porn. "girl on girl" is not lesbian.
Well now you're just talking semantics Well clearly I am not in a position to judge quality, as you can well imagine. I just know that it's there, and quite a lot of it too
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I couldn't care less whether there is one guy dominating the other, or if it is mutual equality. All I ask is that the more muscular, more hairy, more manly guy be the one with a cock in his mouth and up his ass.
There you go; you see, there is something that works for you. Call it stereotyped you may, but I believe in a good old fashioned hairy-top-smooth-bottom scenario. Its something that works for me.

Case in point: Bear and smooth bottom
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Well now you're just talking semantics Well clearly I am not in a position to judge quality, as you can well imagine. I just know that it's there, and quite a lot of it too
No I am not talking semantics, any more than you are. There is a metric fuckton of girl-on-girl porn out there that makes me throw up in my mouth. It isn't made for women, it's made for men. That's NOT "lesbian." Trust me on this. I don't watch porn for the fun of being nauseated. I'm not quibbling with your point of view, have the courtesy to honor mine.

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Which is the last one? I didn't get it

Yeah, I think amateur's currently the way to go ... there's some really nice amateur stuff out there .. I generally get my stuff at X Tube, Tube8, XVideos ... they've got a dedicated "gay" section ...

The thing about lesbian porn is that, there's a huge demand for it. Even I enjoy watching some girl-on-girl once in a while; there's some really nice stuff there. But guy-on-guy, well, the community is limited. There's no need for innovation there, because the demographic is a small percentage as compared to that of regular porn.

Its not hard to make intelligent people; I guess the problem is that not many intelligent minds go into this business in the first place, and even those that do are possibly unwilling to produce material for a minority of the (paying) audience.
I read your profile and it indicated that you were bisexual. I guess my question is do you lean more towards the guy side or rather than the girl side?
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I'm not quibbling with your point of view, have the courtesy to honor mine.
But I am .. did you not notice the smiley face? There's a smiley face .. I think you feel about lesbian porn the same way I feel about gay porn ..

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Dude, i don't think you actually read what he wrote.
No, I did. As I wrote in the original post, I'm not particularly talking about who is in the video. I am pointing out that what they do and how they do it is important too.
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I read your profile and it indicated that you were bisexual. I guess my question is do you lean more towards the guy side or rather than the girl side?
Mmm, well, for me, both are different; maybe like clitoral and anal orgasms are for women (if I'm wrong, don't flame me please!). I like each for very different reasons, so I can't say which I like more. I like to kiss and cuddle a lot, and, well, at least in my experience, girls are more willing to do that, so there's plus one there. I am not very experienced, but overall, my experiences with girls (just one, actually) have been that much more gratifying. The only guy I've really been with is married, and such a prude. He wouldn't touch me after he'd cum; he'd almost never made me cum. It used to be pretty awkward, but I took the best I could have. For him, it used to be just sex; I know it couldn't have been anything more, but I wish it was.

I guess that didn't really answer your question; if I had to be absolutely honest, I'd say, I lean towards the girl side, definitely. For there's so much more there, in the sack and elsewhere too. But, I haven't found that girl yet; so at this point, I can't say for sure that I can't ever meet that guy instead; it's really complicated, to be sure
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After browsing through about 50 pages of "Sexisnottheenemy" I kinda want to declare myself pansexual and go make some porn.
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Bi sex porn is so bad I don'tknow why peoole bother with it
For starters everyone is trying to stick the word bi in the title....why? You'd think people would have a bit more imagaination than that.
The kids are always hair less,

The same old combinations where the girl is little more than a token guesture
, they're never real life situations,
and half the time they look disinterested and don't know what they're doing.
So I've give up.

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I haven't been looking at gay porn in a while, but I am not surprised to hear this. The dynamic in porn seems to be: something gets produced, it sells okay, and everything after that gets produced in the exact same way. The producers think that it's selling because people want it that way, but people will take any thing they can get, and kind of fill in the blanks to make it better.

Unless-- they can't fill in any blanks, and nothing will make it seem like what they are looking for.

take a look at http://sexisnottheenemy.tumblr.com/

If something seems like a taste of what you're looking for, see if you can follow it back to the source. I've found some decent lesbian stuff that way.
It's not that porn producers don't know what people want. You can't find a person that's going to turn everyone on, though. What they're aiming for is producing porn that won't gross many people out. It's not so much that they cater to men, either. It's more that for "straight" guys, getting turned on by the guys in porn is a far more negative experience than if a woman gets turned on by the woman. Besides, they do try and cater toward "hot guys" for the women. They just put them in guy on guy so the guys won't watch it if they aren't ok with it.
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NO, there really isn't. There's a huge demand for "two porn starlets fingering each other and making porn faces for the male viewers" porn. "girl on girl" is not lesbian.
Yeah, but the girl on girl market goes that direction because guys want the women to have sex, just like with a guy, except for replacing the cock with a dildo. Women, also wouldn't be upset with two guys having normal guy on guy sex. When you show all the things 2 guys do, it doesn't suggest that her vagina is any less desirable. Afterall, the vagina might not be as tight as an asshole, but it lubricates itself and even if it isn't a pleasurable experience, it's probably not going to be painful or injure an experienced woman even with minimal warmup.

They also have a huge, niche porn market to cover a lot of the things that aren't mainstream popular. There's certainly a ton of porn with big, hairy guys. You just have to search for bears. Twinks are the young, skinny, hairless guys.

As for the MMF with two gay guys and a woman that just gives a blowjob, though, I know a ton of women that like that idea. Infact, every woman I know that likes the idea of guy on guy would be more than happy to pony up a blowjob if they got to watch two hot guys fuck each other.
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As for the MMF with two gay guys and a woman that just gives a blowjob, though, I know a ton of women that like that idea. Infact, every woman I know that likes the idea of guy on guy would be more than happy to pony up a blowjob if they got to watch two hot guys fuck each other.
I don't know... if I were going to get that friendly with the guy(s), I wouldn't like having to stop there. I'd much rather be all the way in, or out. If I only had the halfway-involved option, I might do it if I were in lust with them, but it'd be really frustrating.
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Yep. But it just makes me giggle.
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