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Old 02-15-2008, 03:30 PM   #1
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...for construction workers, contractors, engineers, architects, tradespeople, and anyone else who works with their hands or makes money off of those that do.

Tell tall tales, bitch about the industry, post pix of jobs you've done, whatever.


Anything goes.

So I'm looking at the latest issue of my International magazine. In the "Safety and Health Department Report", there's a long screed about how we all need to vote Democrat this election. It ends with this:

...Now I know that some of our good union members vote Republican for one reason or another, whether it be the gun issue, abortion, gay rights, or whatever your issues are...

The "gay rights" thing is what caught my eye. Could anyone be such a fucking tool as to vote for the reverse side of the buttered bread just because of someone else's hole preference?

Yikes.
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:34 PM   #2
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:36 PM   #3
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...for construction workers, contractors, engineers, architects, tradespeople, and anyone else who works with their hands or makes money off of those that do.

Tell tall tales, bitch about the industry, post pix of jobs you've done, whatever.


Anything goes.

So I'm looking at the latest issue of my International magazine. In the "Safety and Health Department Report", there's a long screed about how we all need to vote Democrat this election. It ends with this:

...Now I know that some of our good union members vote Republican for one reason or another, whether it be the gun issue, abortion, gay rights, or whatever your issues are...

The "gay rights" thing is what caught my eye. Could anyone be such a fucking tool as to vote for the reverse side of the buttered bread just because of someone else's hole preference?

Yikes.

Probably so. I've heard of stranger reasons as to where to cast a vote.

That being said, most of the contractors, builders and plumbers that I have worked with through the years. Are mostly Republican. Though the younger generation seems to be more liberal than conservative.
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:36 PM   #5
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Workmen's comp. is killing us. The bastards. We're paying 51% on the dollar. How the holy hell are we supposed to make a living.
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:40 PM   #7
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My kitchen last year went from this:



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I always have problems with cities. They approve plans and then wait until work is done on something before they say 'you can't do that.' I once threw a table saw through a wall because of that.
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:42 PM   #10
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Probably so. I've heard of stranger reasons as to where to cast a vote.

That being said, most of the contractors, builders and plumbers that I have worked with through the years. Are mostly Republican. Though the younger generation seems to be more liberal than conservative.
Maybe it's because I'm in one of the last bastions of Northeast/immigrant/Democrat/union/working-class power, but I've noticed a lot of tension between the natural social conservatism of the working class and the desire to vote against Big Business. It has gotten weirder and more tense in the last 8 years.
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Workmen's comp. is killing us. The bastards. We're paying 51% on the dollar. How the holy hell are we supposed to make a living.
Even being self employed is costing more. No claims ever. Now I'm limited on what type of work I can do. (From a cost standpoint).
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My kitchen last year went from this:
Not bad at all. Yourself or a pro?
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:43 PM   #13
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I was once on a rather large jobsite, ( A community rec center), and the masons helpers (laborers), were moving pallets of big 16 inch blocks around, with a big Lull type forklift.

The dumbasses had WAY too much weight on the forks, and the back wheels of the lift kept coming off the ground. The entire forklift was teetering.

So, the leader tells 5 guys to jump on the back of the lift. The back wheels came down, and the driver started to lift the forks. There was a very loud bang, and the forklift "chain" broke.

It was basically a huge forklift like this:



The general contractor was fucking pissed off. lol
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Did you do the cabinetry?

I like the glowing Subzero in the first pic. It looks like a Steven Spielberg alien.
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To this:

Hey, I see a pepsi bottle in one picture and a coke bottle in the other. You have to choose!
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My kitchen last year went from this:
Damn, that place got gutted.

Nice work, it looks better.
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Not bad at all. Yourself or a pro?
Myself.
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I always have problems with cities. They approve plans and then wait until work is done on something before they say 'you can't do that.' I once threw a table saw through a wall because of that.
KRC, I saw something you posted in a Lunchynice/911 thread. Do you have experience with structural steel?
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:48 PM   #19
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Does any contractors/Architects, etc. use PlanWell or another online plan ordering service. If so, please tell.
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Did you do the cabinetry?

I like the glowing Subzero in the first pic. It looks like a Steven Spielberg alien.
I ordered the cabinets, and hung them myself. I didn't build them.

I was on a deadline after all.
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Workmen's comp. is killing us. The bastards. We're paying 51% on the dollar. How the holy hell are we supposed to make a living.
Colorado roofers, I've heard. Pay a dollar on the dollar. Outrageous.

I was always on the lower end. Electricians donít get hurt much, youíre either OK or youíre dead. It doesnít cost much to bury you. At least thatís the way my insurance agent explained it to me Ė thoughtful bastard.

n the twenty years I was in business I paid out tens of thousands in comp and contractors insurance - total claims $1.500 - what a rip off.
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KRC, I saw something you posted in a Lunchynice/911 thread. Do you have experience with structural steel?
I'm a commercial architect so most of what I build is steel and concrete.
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Slowlane, it's good to see you. I'd like to see the nonunion side represented here as well.

My eyes have been opened re comp this year. There's been a lot of talk about how to reduce abuses of the comp system. Obviously, it's strangling the little guy.
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I'm a commercial architect so most of what I build is steel and concrete.
Excellent. What do you think about concrete vs. steel? Are your projects union or non-union or both? What's the tallest building you've designed?
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