Form & Substance

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Whats the point of writing N*GGA when the whole world knows you mean NIGGA? I mean, do you believe youre fooling anybody? I think it was the Jews who got the whole business started because of their prohibition for speaking the name of God.

Isnt it honest to simply call a spade, a spade?

[lovecraft68]

I guess the word just spooks some people

Using that term in many situations does not mean the author is racist it means he is using realism.

But there is no room for realism in The ridiculously pc world of lit.

I laugh at the people on these boards who try to act so extreme and edgy but would run screaming if someone said fag.

Now breeder on the other hand is just fine

Then again the true definition of pc is hypocrisy so why not?

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I use Nigga as my example but I see all kinds of words with asterisks in them. But they mean the same thing, so why the bullshit with the asterisk?

[sr71plt]

Where do you see them on Literotica (link please). The only one I can remember running across is here in your thread.

There are programs that do that substitution automatically--it's not the author of the piece doing it--but I think those programs are filtering out, at least in sites targeted to adults.

[slyc_willie]

I've noticed a lot of comments sections for online newspapers censor out certain words, so "crafty" posters have taken to spelling offensive words with an asterisk in place of one or more letters. It's just part of the online culture now, too, such as the term "pwned."

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Originally Posted by slyc_willie

I've noticed a lot of comments sections for online newspapers censor out certain words, so "crafty" posters have taken to spelling offensive words with an asterisk in place of one or more letters. It's just part of the online culture now, too, such as the term "pwned."

I get the part about defying censors, what I don't get is the outrage for nigga but not for n*gga.

[slyc_willie]

Originally Posted by JAMESBJOHNSON

I get the part about defying censors, what I don't get is the outrage for nigga but not for n*gga.

I would suppose it depends on the context. If you gave a specific example, it might make it clearer for us what you're getting at.

In the context of interactive online gaming, I see a lot of use of n*gga in the open chat windows. It seems to be used by a lot of young gamers out there, around the world. In the context in which its used, it seems to mean roughly the same thing as when you jokingly refer to a friend as "you son of a bitch." It's not really an insult. It can easily be offensive to someone outside the conversation, but within that conversation, it's not intended to be insulting.

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Originally Posted by slyc_willie

I would suppose it depends on the context. If you gave a specific example, it might make it clearer for us what you're getting at.

In the context of interactive online gaming, I see a lot of use of n*gga in the open chat windows. It seems to be used by a lot of young gamers out there, around the world. In the context in which its used, it seems to mean roughly the same thing as when you jokingly refer to a friend as "you son of a bitch." It's not really an insult. It can easily be offensive to someone outside the conversation, but within that conversation, it's not intended to be insulting.

We're speaking of asterisks in print NOT contexts. Context is a separate issue. I wanna know howcome N*gga doesn't incite the PC crowd.

[slyc_willie]

Originally Posted by JAMESBJOHNSON

We're speaking of asterisks in print NOT contexts. Context is a separate issue. I wanna know howcome N*gga doesn't incite the PC crowd.

In print? Personally, I don't know that I've seen it spelled that way in print. I can see how it would be, though. Say for a poster advertising a rap concert or something, where the word nigger is heavily used.

As for why it wouldn't incite anyone . . . maybe the simple fact of substituting an asterisk shows a level of restraint. Or it may be just a new spelling convention that indicates a less-insulting urban definition. In other words, you print the word "Nigger" or "Nigga" and you're in danger of being shot. You print "N*gga" and you're recognized as part of the subculture that uses the term.

Just guesses on my part.

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Originally Posted by slyc_willie

In print? Personally, I don't know that I've seen it spelled that way in print. I can see how it would be, though. Say for a poster advertising a rap concert or something, where the word nigger is heavily used.

As for why it wouldn't incite anyone . . . maybe the simple fact of substituting an asterisk shows a level of restraint. Or it may be just a new spelling convention that indicates a less-insulting urban definition. In other words, you print the word "Nigger" or "Nigga" and you're in danger of being shot. You print "N*gga" and you're recognized as part of the subculture that uses the term.

Just guesses on my part.

#2 passes for shit. But I suppose youre right about the sensitivity thang. He cares!

[slyc_willie]

This is going out on a limb, as I don't follow the Rap/Hip-Hop culture much, but I've notice a trend of using unconventional characters in various names. Take Jay-Z, Ke$ha, and Will.I.Am, for instance, all names I've seen recently in popular media. The use of non-standard characters indicates some sort of statement the person is making. Maybe Ke$ha sees herself as rich and glamorous, thus the use of the dollar sign. Will.I.Am could be indicating a sense of personal strength.

So maybe N*gga is following the same convention. The asterisk could indicate a star, thus denoting a differentiation from the insulting term nigga. So, a N*gga is a good thing.

Maybe. Who the hell knows? I suppose someone out there has the answer.

[Stella_Omega]

Originally Posted by JAMESBJOHNSON

I get the part about defying censors, what I don't get is the outrage for nigga but not for n*gga.

The asterisk seems to function as the writer's apology for using the word even though they know it's offensive. Sometimes it works-- among people who also think that asterisks excuse douchebaggery. And lots of people do think that way, let's face it. They also use these circumlocutions; "sh!t" "@ss" "b!tch" (or "Beeyatch" which is even stupider IMO,)... What other ones have you guys seen?

[SamScribble]

This comment from an Antipodean blog that I quite enjoy ... http://www.kiwistreet.co.nz/wordpress/?p=679

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Originally Posted by SamScribble

This comment from an Antipodean blog that I quite enjoy ... http://www.kiwistreet.co.nz/wordpress/?p=679

Th*nks.

[KlaytonFrost]

Sometimes people have to use a word that they find offensive, to give an example. One example might be "I don't agree with the use of the word c*nt" (This is just an example, I personally think it's a cool word.

For this particular use I can see the asterix having a purpose. Otherwise though, you're right, it does seem kind of silly.

[HoneyFortune]

Oh, look. A bunch of old men spouting off stupid, racist shit on the internet. How unusual.

[slyc_willie]

Originally Posted by SamScribble

This comment from an Antipodean blog that I quite enjoy ... http://www.kiwistreet.co.nz/wordpress/?p=679

That was pretty funny. And apt.

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Originally Posted by HoneyFortune

Oh, look. A bunch of old men spouting off stupid, racist shit on the internet. How unusual.

God Bl*ss You

[PayDay]

This thread is silly.

It's the equiv of saying "Well back in my day...."

Language is alive and evolves.
Why would typing it be any different?

@isht pwnd.