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Why else do his hysterical supporters continue to try to demonize those who raise questions about his eligibility for the Presidency? In particular there seems to be a particularly hysterical supporter on this very site who is especially obsessed with the critics.

Why else wouldn't these supporters just move on and ignore the criticism unless there is some truth to it? :confused:
 
I think if you are a supporter of a President and somebody says racist things about him the it would make you upset too. If Obama was white then no way would Tramp be saying these things about birth and education :O
 
mollynaturist said:
I think if you are a supporter of a President and somebody says racist things about him the it would make you upset too. If Obama was white then no way would Trump be saying these things about birth and education :O
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The supporters are so insane they play the race card about something having NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. If Obama was full white and there was suspicion over his eligibity you are darn right that people would be raising it. Obama tries use his ethnic background as teflon to deflect any criticism by playing the race card. A lot of people are getting tired of that.
 
mollynaturist said:
I think if you are a supporter of a President and somebody says racist things about him the it would make you upset too. If Obama was white then no way would Tramp be saying these things about birth and education :O
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So you are saying that people that don't like obama's policies automatically means they are racist?

Then that means that every black person that didn't like bush's policies must have been racist as well....right?



renard_ruse said:
The supporters are so insane they play the race card about something having NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. If Obama was full white and there was suspicion over his eligibity you are darn right that people would be raising it. Obama tries use his ethnic background as teflon to deflect any criticism by playing the race card. A lot of people are getting tired of that.
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Both obama's use the race card as much as possible. Was OJ the won that made the race card famous?
 
SRES 511 ATS

110th CONGRESS

2d Session

S. RES. 511

Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

April 10, 2008

Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. COBURN, Mrs. CLINTON, and Mr. WEBB) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

April 24, 2008

Reported by Mr. LEAHY, without amendment

April 30, 2008

Considered and agreed to

RESOLUTION

Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen' of the United States;

Whereas the term `natural born Citizen', as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;

Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country's President;

Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the `natural born Citizen' clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress's own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen';

Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;

Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and

Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen' under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.

*******************************

2 primary issues were investigated and considered in the above unbinding resolution:

1. Where was McCain born and was it considered to be the US?

2. Was McCain born to American citizens?

*******************************

Was the Senate investigation into whether Republican candidate for president McCain was "a natural born Citizen" racist?

Why does the Senate today not investigate and then issue a non-binding resolution whether President Obama's status is equally answerable to the same two questions above?

And if it did...

...why would that be racist?
 
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renard_ruse said:
Why else do his hysterical supporters continue to try to demonize those who raise questions about his eligibility for the Presidency? In particular there seems to be a particularly hysterical supporter on this very site who is especially obsessed with the critics.

Why else wouldn't these supporters just move on and ignore the criticism unless there is some truth to it? :confused:
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Notice how the leftwing wackjobs always try to use the McCain birth trick. It means that they have nothing to go on.


And why did it take 2 years for obama to produce a birth certificate.

Hell I know a place in chicago where illegals get birth certiificates... id's etc...

Obama being the president should have been able to buy one much quicker than this.
 
renard_ruse said:
Its obvious Obama is not a natural born citizen
Why else do his hysterical supporters continue to try to demonize those who raise questions about his eligibility for the Presidency? In particular there seems to be a particularly hysterical supporter on this very site who is especially obsessed with the critics.

Why else wouldn't these supporters just move on and ignore the criticism unless there is some truth to it? :confused:
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What is obvious is that you are beyond the range of rational persuasion.
 
Cade Is Here said:
So you are saying that people that don't like obama's policies automatically means they are racist?
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What has Obama's birth certificate and education got to do with policies? Trump is focusing on these things that have nothing to do with policies. Trump is a racist and he's going to get really thrashed in the campaign because of it, so he's lost all chance of being competitive in an election!
 
renard_ruse said:
The supporters are so insane they play the race card about something having NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. If Obama was full white and there was suspicion over his eligibity you are darn right that people would be raising it. Obama tries use his ethnic background as teflon to deflect any criticism by playing the race card. A lot of people are getting tired of that.
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I heard a rumor which said that Donald Trump, according to papers filed during his divorce proceedings, has a penis that is only 2 and 3/4 inches long, and it is that fact which causes his grandiose behavor and jealousy of our president. renard ruse: is your penis (cock) as big as Trump's?
 
vetteman said:
The Senate acted at the request of McCain himself. Only trouble is, the Senate or the Congress cannot amend the Constitution by resolution or statute, and to my knowledge the SCOTUS has not ruled.
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Wow. That would be a great way to use our resources. It was a waste of time to declare McCain natural born and the same with Obama. It's too late. He is. However it may open it up for Arnold.

Anyone who wants to waste their time and energy on this stupid distraction from what is important - The Federal Government Expenditures - is wasting valuable and costly resources because they don't want to address the really hard issues.

I found myself doing that at work last week. I had something difficult, full of dilemmas, to deal with, so instead I finished up some busy work. However, the difficult chore was still there by Friday. Odd, I had been ruminating and brooding on it all week, and, when I finally tackled it, all the pieces fell into place. Now it's just another 6 month process.
 
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vetteman said:
The Senate acted at the request of McCain himself. Only trouble is, the Senate or the Congress cannot amend the Constitution by resolution or statute, and to my knowledge the SCOTUS has not ruled.
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Why didn't/doesn't President Obama make the same request?

Of course SRES 511 ATS was non-binding, but can you imagine the resulting implications and effects on McCain's campaign if it had decided the opposite?

Likewise, if today's Senate were to investigate whether President Obama is "a natural born citizen" and, because he was not "born to American citizens", issued a non-binding resolution declaring he's not "a natural born citizen"...

...what perceptional implications and effects would that have on Mr. Obama's reelection campaign?

That it was Mr. McCain and is Mr. Obama who are the particular subjects of this matter is hardly as relevant as the matter itself...

...that it has caused such interest in the public and in so many state legislatures, seems to make most likely its appearance before SCOTUS simply a matter of time.
 
What is obvious to me is that although he was elected president the US is not ready to see a black family in the Whitehouse.
 
The_Trouvere said:
What is obvious is that you are beyond the range of rational persuasion.
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I'm indeed rational. I made the rational point that Sonny_Lymphoma is a good example of the hysteria that Obama supporters react with over this issue. If they didn't react the way they do, I probably wouldn't have given this issue much consideration in the first place. I find it a case of them protesting a bit too much.
 
mollynaturist said:
What has Obama's birth certificate and education got to do with policies? Trump is focusing on these things that have nothing to do with policies. Trump is a "racist" and he's going to get really thrashed in the campaign because of it, so he's lost all chance of being competitive in an election!
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The Constitution has everything to do with things. Its the law of the land.

So, its ok for you to call Trump a "racist" but it was wrong for Beck to call Obama a "racist." Double standard?
 
I hate Donald Trump myself, if for no other reason than what he tried to do to Pat Buchanan back in the Reform Party days, not to mention his hardline anti-Arab positions. However, notice that anyone who criticizes The Messiah (Obama) is demonized and vilified? Now the new target of their attacks is Trump. Its a predictable cliche. Trump at least has the balls to raise an unpopular issue and the money not to care.
 
eyer said:
SRES 511 ATS

110th CONGRESS

2d Session

S. RES. 511

Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

April 10, 2008

Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. COBURN, Mrs. CLINTON, and Mr. WEBB) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

April 24, 2008

Reported by Mr. LEAHY, without amendment

April 30, 2008

Considered and agreed to

RESOLUTION

Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen' of the United States;

Whereas the term `natural born Citizen', as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;

Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country's President;

Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the `natural born Citizen' clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress's own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen';

Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;

Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and

Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen' under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.

*******************************

2 primary issues were investigated and considered in the above unbinding resolution:

1. Where was McCain born and was it considered to be the US?

2. Was McCain born to American citizens?

*******************************

Was the Senate investigation into whether Republican candidate for president McCain was "a natural born Citizen" racist?

Why does the Senate today not investigate and then issue a non-binding resolution whether President Obama's status is equally answerable to the same two questions above?

And if it did...

...why would that be racist?
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What I find interesting about the McCain resolution is that it doesn't cite any citizenship laws that were in place at the time of his birth. Considering that he was hardly the first person born to military parents stationed abroad, it's hard to believe that some relevant law addressing his citizenship status wasn't already on the books.
 
Funny how the people who refer to Obama repeatedly as The Messiah are the same people who want to see him crucified.
 
has the democratic party inadvertently set themselves up to nominate an african-american presidential candidate every presidential election cycle for the foreseeable future ?
 
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