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Old 02-08-2011, 10:30 PM   #51
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Homophobic violence, I think, arises more from internal conflicts, at least with men. It isn't men on the Opposite-attraction end of the spectrum who act out homophobic; rather, it's those with some same-sex attraction. As you (3113) say, those men with anger towards women usually find a target. Those men with anger towards themselves find a target that looks like that which they hate about themselves.
That is probably true as well, and goes back to the clinical definition of homophobia, i.e., fear of ones own femininity.
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:09 AM   #52
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Is it actually as common as this crazy thread makes it out to be?

http://isitnormal.com/story/whats-wr...love-cum-6031/
I believe this is one of those kind of questions to which the correct answer cannot be known. Imagine some someone with an advanced degree in say, sociology. This someone wins a large grant to do a large "study" aimed at answering your question. The same someone decides to define a "straight" man as a man who is married, has two kids, and a cocker spaniel.

Our straight man has a secret fantasy about sucking cock and swallowing cum. He may have even sucked a cock or two. He has a lot to lose--his family--if his secret was compromised. Our sociologist approaches him and asks if he has such a fantasy. My guess is that the majority of straight men would deny having such a fantasy.

A bell, or probability curve, will show that probably most men have at least thought of sucking cock, while a minority has never thought of it and the minority on the opposite side of the curve, thinks of it exclusively.

These same men, feeling secure in the supposed anonymity of the internet, seek out and find other men with the same or similar fantasy. They may even arrange a meeting and put into secret practice, the fantasy they devised at home, while walking the dog or shopping with the wife.

I know of at least one forum type website populated by straight married family men who exchange cocksucking fantasies, and relate actual experiences. They identify themselves as either "feeders" or "eaters."

The impression I got while browsing through the posts, is that sucking and swallowing for these men is more of a spiritual experience for most of them than a sexual experience. They identify themselves as either "feeders" or "eaters." Google "men who swallow" and you should find it fairly easily.
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:46 AM   #53
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:56 AM   #54
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You know what I wish? That people would stop trying to put themselves and others into boxes.

Why does it matter what people like or are turned on by, as long as it doesn't harm anybody else?

Fuck. Love. Play. Enjoy life. Feel good. That's all that matters. I refuse to be defined by someone else's labels.


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I agreed. Sexuality is kind of a fluid thing BUT I was reading a book on sexuality called Sex At Dawn that suggested there were studies done of men and women's arousal patterns that suggested the both straight and gay men tend only to be aroused byt hings that follow along with their orientation. I think the jury is still out. Below is the academic article if anyone is interested.

Chivers, M. L., Seto, M. C., Lalumière, M. L., Laan, E., & Grimbos, T. (2010). Agreement of self-reported and genital measures of sexual arousal among men and women: A meta-analysis. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 39, 5-56. doi: 10.1007/s10508-009-9556-9
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:51 AM   #55
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:26 PM   #56
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That is probably true as well, and goes back to the clinical definition of homophobia, i.e., fear of ones own femininity.
I'm not so sure that the clinical definition of homophobia is the fear of one's own femininity. In fact, I suspect that there is no simple clinical definition of homophobia. That said, there are all kinds of ideas dealing with what homophobia is about. Like a lot of things, it probably depends on each individuals' ideas about homosexuality in general. Ideas such as what it is, why it is and in particular, your own emotional responses to the concept.

And while we're on the subject, the phrase "clinical definition" is itself problematic. I would say that homophobia is an attitude or a reaction of sorts. That doesn't mean that it is a psychological or psychiatric disorder in and of itself. I put it in with other irrational fears or intolerances such as racism, xenophobia, sexism and religious intolerance. That is, it represents an inability to accept that "My way of seeing the world is not the only way to see the world".

Or, to put it in the zeitgeist of the intolerant, "My way of seeing the world is the only way of seeing the world".

The trouble with such people is that they have Gore-Tex brains. Vapors leak out but nothing gets in.
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Old 02-09-2011, 01:46 PM   #57
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As a rule of thumb homophobia refers to ego-dystonic same sex desire. It means youre not kewl with how you feel.
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Old 02-09-2011, 02:25 PM   #58
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I'm not so sure that the clinical definition of homophobia is the fear of one's own femininity. In fact, I suspect that there is no simple clinical definition of homophobia. That said, there are all kinds of ideas dealing with what homophobia is about. Like a lot of things, it probably depends on each individuals' ideas about homosexuality in general. Ideas such as what it is, why it is and in particular, your own emotional responses to the concept.

And while we're on the subject, the phrase "clinical definition" is itself problematic. I would say that homophobia is an attitude or a reaction of sorts. That doesn't mean that it is a psychological or psychiatric disorder in and of itself. I put it in with other irrational fears or intolerances such as racism, xenophobia, sexism and religious intolerance. That is, it represents an inability to accept that "My way of seeing the world is not the only way to see the world".

Or, to put it in the zeitgeist of the intolerant, "My way of seeing the world is the only way of seeing the world".

The trouble with such people is that they have Gore-Tex brains. Vapors leak out but nothing gets in.
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:25 PM   #59
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Is it actually as common as this crazy thread makes it out to be?

http://isitnormal.com/story/whats-wr...love-cum-6031/
Think about it this way. If guys didn't like seeing cum shooting out of a dick why in the hell does almost EVERY straight porno feature shots of a guy shooting his cum onto the face or the pussy of the girl. The guy almost never cums inside the girl he has fucked because we have to SEE the cum. Now I know there are women out there who love porn but porn is by and large made by and for men. So obviously there is something to be seen in all that!

My husband loves cum. He loves to see it running down my leg after he or someone else has put it there and one of his greatest fantasies is to 'fuck a pussy full of cum'. He is definitely straight but open to some bisexual experiences in the right setting. In our travels we have come accross other men who are the same. All of them are happily married to gorgeous women. They don't want to change their life they are just open to the possibilities.

We don't all fit into little boxes and just because someone has a particular fantasy or wants to have a particular experience doesn't mean they have to change the box they live in.
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