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Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND): Reconciliation Can't Be Used For Health Care

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File This: "Conrad Can't Reconciliation With Democrats"

Senator Kent Conrad On "Face The Nation"

"…reconciliation cannot be used to pass comprehensive health care reform. It won’t work. It won’t work because it was never designed for that kind of significant legislation. It was designed for deficit reduction… The major package of health care reform cannot move through the reconciliation process. It will not work… It will not work because of the Byrd rule which says anything that doesn’t score for budget purposes has to be eliminated. That would eliminate all the delivery system reform, all the insurance market reform, all of those things the experts tell us are really the most important parts of this bill. The only possible role that I can see for reconciliation would be make modest changes in the major package to improve affordability, to deal with what share of Medicaid expansion the federal government pays, those kinds of issues, which is the traditional role for reconciliation in health care."
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Ok, that's one out of nine they can lose.

Problem is, reconciliation has to be passed out of his committee first and he's the chairman of said committee.
 
BigGator5 said:
File This: "Conrad Can't Reconciliation With Democrats"


Ok, that's one out of nine they can lose.

Problem is, reconciliation has to be passed out of his committee first and he's the chairman of said committee.
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You will never be free if you believe the two party lie.
It is a primitive dialectic, created to give the illusion of choice.

But you have no choice.
 
BigGator5 said:
File This: "Conrad Can't Reconciliation With Democrats"


Ok, that's one out of nine they can lose.

Problem is, reconciliation has to be passed out of his committee first and he's the chairman of said committee.
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I thought assigning a bill to a committee was optional. Is it mandatory in this case?
 
firespin said:
I thought assigning a bill to a committee was optional. Is it mandatory in this case?
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Yes. It's part of the reconciliation process. The senate budget committee must mark it for reconciliation.
 
All of the health care bill can't be passed through reconciliation. Only those parts that directly adress how the government allocates resources - i.e budget matters.

"The major package of health care reform cannot move through the reconciliation process."

It was my impression that it wasn't gonna. That the House was going to pass the already passed Senate bill with all the reform stuff in it, and then they will do minor fixes with reconciliation. Those fixes would have to do with financing and clearly linked to budget matters, though. Just like Conrad says.
 
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flirtytips said:
Well, that's a first...
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Really??

It shouldn't be?

Isn't it common knowledge that your two parties a joke they are owned by the corporations who write your laws. They just write them! It's amazing fact yet you never talk about the fact that lawyers for companies write all of your laws.

Even your comedians say what happened:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

Why dont you listen instead of to this people like Gloen Beck who is speaking for the??

you Americans!!! sad case
 
Liar said:
All of the health care bill can't be passed through reconciliation. Only those parts that directly adress how the government allocates resources - i.e budget matters.

"The major package of health care reform cannot move through the reconciliation process."

It was my impression that it wasn't gonna. That the House was going to pass the already passed Senate bill with a the reform stuff in it, and then they will do minor fixes with reconciliation. Those fixes would have to do with financing and clearly linked to budget matters, though.
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The issue is the House hates the Senate bill, and can't pass it without some major changes. The question is whether the bill with major those can be "reconciled".
 
Liar said:
It was my impression that it wasn't gonna. That the House was going to pass the already passed Senate bill with a the reform stuff in it, and then they will do minor fixes with reconciliation. Those fixes would have to do with financing and clearly linked to budget matters, though.
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Good luck with getting the House to pass the Senate bill.
 
BigGator5 said:
Good luck with getting the House to pass the Senate bill.
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Gee wow big mystery which piece of shit legislation raping the American people will get passed, choice A or choice B.

Do you parrots have no shame or do you get paid to regurgitate insurance cartel talking points? Or are you just stupids who repeat the talking points handed down by radio or tv talkers?

Probably!:D
 
I don't know anyone who have suggested the whole shebang could be passed that way.

Although some strange things, clearly not reducing the deficit, have passed through there. The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act of 96 (Republican bill signed by Clinton) and the College Cost Reduction and Access Act of 07 (Democratic bill signed by Bush) comes to mind.
 
BigGator5 said:
Good luck with getting the House to pass the Senate bill.
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Uh. Thanks, but I'm not the one doing it.

If they know it's that or Scrap & Crap, it'll all be a matter of what they hate the most. There's a slim chance they'll eventually do it. But only if some of the worst turds from the Senate bill can indeed be fuiltered out, like the Nelson pork (arguably a spending issue that can be reconciliation matter).
 
Liar said:
All of the health care bill can't be passed through reconciliation. Only those parts that directly adress how the government allocates resources - i.e budget matters.

"The major package of health care reform cannot move through the reconciliation process."

It was my impression that it wasn't gonna. That the House was going to pass the already passed Senate bill with all the reform stuff in it, and then they will do minor fixes with reconciliation. Those fixes would have to do with financing and clearly linked to budget matters, though. Just like Conrad says.
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Correct. Conrad must have a short memory when he says "reconciliation cannot be used to pass comprehensive health care reform," because he's clearly forgotten that the Senate has already passed it.
 
Wrong Element said:
Correct. Conrad must have a short memory when he says "reconciliation cannot be used to pass comprehensive health care reform," because he's clearly forgotten that the Senate has already passed it.
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Well sorta.

If the house passed the Senate bill then this wouldn't even be on the table.

It's because they will carve up the Senate bill that there needs to be a reconciliation of a bill with major amounts of health reform content.
 
vetteman said:
..and here I gave you a decent axe, and a good butcher knife.:(
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A girl has to accessorize. Mix and match, as it were. People were starting to talk that I was wearing the same thing all the time.
 
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