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Why do RWs keep talking about the "Cloward-Piven Strategy"?

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KingOrfeo

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(On this Board, that is; haven't seen it anywhere else.)

Cloward-Piven Strategy:

The Cloward-Piven strategy refers to a political strategy outlined by Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, then both sociologists and political activists at the Columbia University School of Social Work, in a 1966 article in The Nation. The two argued that many Americans who were eligible for welfare were not receiving benefits, and that a welfare enrollment drive would create a political crisis that would force U.S. politicians, particularly the Democratic Party, to enact legislation "establishing a guaranteed national income."
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Which might have seemed clever to radicals in 1966, but it has never been tried in real life, in America or anywhere else. American welfare rolls did, in the 1970s, sometimes get rather swollen -- but only because of sheer economic distress, not any political strategy or "welfare enrollment drive"; and the political reaction was not to "establish a guaranteed national income" but to vote Reagan into power.

Anyway, what's that got to do with the Obama Admin, or anything that's happening now? :confused:
 
It's to counter the left's chant of "Military Industrial Complex" and "War for oil."

:rolleyes:
 
The Cloward-Piven strategy never achieved its goal of system breakdown and a Marxist utopia. But it provided a blueprint for some of the Left's most destructive campaigns of the next three decades. It will likely haunt America for years to come since George Soros' Shadow Party has now adopted the strategy, honing it into a far more efficient weapon than any of its Sixties-era promoters could have foreseen.
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Can you say ACORN?
 
Of the nine times that posts have been made on Literotica referencing this topic, you've made four of them, sometimes in response to others talking about it of course. (Referring to the original post author.)

The three incidental references over the course of a year doesn't seem like a groundswell to me, but clearly it has your attention.
 
I know that at least two or three references were mine. I'm flattered to be considered a "groundswell."
 
KingOrfeo said:
(On this Board, that is; haven't seen it anywhere else.)

Cloward-Piven Strategy:



Which might have seemed clever to radicals in 1966, but it has never been tried in real life, in America or anywhere else. American welfare rolls did, in the 1970s, sometimes get rather swollen -- but only because of sheer economic distress, not any political strategy or "welfare enrollment drive"; and the political reaction was not to "establish a guaranteed national income" but to vote Reagan into power.

Anyway, what's that got to do with the Obama Admin, or anything that's happening now? :confused:
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You're still a fucking idiot, but now you're a fucking lying idiot.

Ishmael
 
Ishmael said:
You're still a fucking idiot, but now you're a fucking lying idiot.

Ishmael
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Which part was the lie? You don't really think 1970s welfare rolls really did have anything to do with Cloward-Piven, do you?
 
KingOrfeo said:
Never mind ACORN, what's this bullshit about "George Soros' Shadow Party"?
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He's sunk nations before...

ACORN is a subset.

Serfdom is the goal of the self-appointed elites...
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"A ruling intelligentsia whether in Europe, Asia or Africa, treats the masses as raw material to be experimented on, processed and wasted at will."
Eric Hoffer

[and now, America too]
 
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The Cloward-Piven strategy depended on surprise. Once society recovered from the initial shock, the backlash began. New York's welfare crisis horrified the nation, giving rise to a reform movement which culminated in "the end of welfare as we know it" -- the 1996 Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act, which imposed time limits on federal welfare, along with strict eligibility and work requirements. Both Cloward and Piven attended the White House signing of the bill as guests of President Clinton.

Most Americans to this day have never heard of Cloward and Piven. But Mayor Rudolph Giuliani attempted to expose them in the late 1990's. As his drive for welfare reform heated up, Giuliani accused the militant scholars by name, citing their 1966 manifesto as evidence that they had engaged in deliberate economic sabotage. "This wasn't an accident," Giuliani charged in a 1997 speech. "It wasn't an atmospheric thing, it wasn't supernatural. This is the result of policies and programs designed to have the maximum number of people get on welfare."

Cloward and Piven never again revealed their intentions as candidly as they had in their 1966 article. They learned to cover their tracks. Even so, their activism in subsequent years continued to rely on the tactic of overloading the system. When the public caught on to their welfare scheme, Cloward and Piven simply moved on, applying pressure to other sectors of the bureaucracy, wherever they detected weakness.
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Why did Fannie Mae collapse?




By design...

Corruption on the inside coupled with the antics of ACORN (and Obama) and the desire to "Do Good," von Humboldt's "Positive Interference of Government."

Why does the economy collapse now?

It's the quickest way to shed the constitution and enable the Tyranny of the Elites...
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CS Lewis
 
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