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Old 07-10-2014, 08:50 AM   #1
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ACA making positive impact in Arizona

According to a new report from the Arizona Hospital and Healthcare Association, hospitals in the state are saving money by providing less uncompensated care.

Uncompensated care is driven by low-income and uninsured people who can’t pay their hospital bills. After Arizona removed childless adults from its Medicaid program back in 2011, uncompensated care skyrocketed throughout the state. But now that Arizona has expanded Medicaid under the health reform law, a move that allowed childless adults to enroll in the public health program again, that trend is being reversed.

In the first four months of this year, according to the new report, the uncompensated care at Arizona hospitals dropped by 31 percent compared to the same period in 2013. That helped the average operating margin of Arizona hospitals to rise from 4 percent to 5.2 percent over the last year.

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Hospitals providing less uncompensated care should translate to lower costs overall as they don't have to spread those losses among other patients.
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Old 07-10-2014, 09:44 AM   #2
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Old 07-10-2014, 09:51 AM   #3
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Funny...

...a married woman used to post on this Board who likewise claimed that her sexting with a minor had a "positive impact" on him.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:12 AM   #4
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...a married woman used to post on this Board who likewise claimed that her sexting with a minor had a "positive impact" on him.
Did she sext him against an oak tree in the backyard?

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Old 07-10-2014, 11:17 AM   #5
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Funny...

...a married woman used to post on this Board who likewise claimed that her sexting with a minor had a "positive impact" on him.
Funny...

...you were quite smitten by that woman and defended her actions.

How quickly they fall from Grace...
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:21 AM   #6
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Did she sext him against an oak tree in the backyard?

Good old one-note Eeyore.
Nothing to add as usual.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:27 AM   #7
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Funny...

...you were quite smitten by that woman and defended her actions.

How quickly they fall from Grace...
Smitten by Grace?

That's friggin' funny...

Grace did not defend her actions as I recall - she admitted to the one action she unknowingly did and pled to it, and then did defend herself against other actions she was revengefully accused of doing, every one of which were investigated and found to be wholly groundless...

...totally unlike the poster referred to above.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:30 AM   #8
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According to a new report from the Arizona Hospital and Healthcare Association, hospitals in the state are saving money by providing less uncompensated care.

Uncompensated care is driven by low-income and uninsured people who can’t pay their hospital bills. After Arizona removed childless adults from its Medicaid program back in 2011, uncompensated care skyrocketed throughout the state. But now that Arizona has expanded Medicaid under the health reform law, a move that allowed childless adults to enroll in the public health program again, that trend is being reversed.

In the first four months of this year, according to the new report, the uncompensated care at Arizona hospitals dropped by 31 percent compared to the same period in 2013. That helped the average operating margin of Arizona hospitals to rise from 4 percent to 5.2 percent over the last year.

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Hospitals providing less uncompensated care should translate to lower costs overall as they don't have to spread those losses among other patients.
utter shit

but lets assume it is what your pretend it is

that's great

now lets hope the OTHER 56 STATES do well as AZ
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According to a new report from the Arizona Hospital and Healthcare Association, hospitals in the state are saving money by providing less uncompensated care.

Uncompensated care is driven by low-income and uninsured people who can’t pay their hospital bills. After Arizona removed childless adults from its Medicaid program back in 2011, uncompensated care skyrocketed throughout the state. But now that Arizona has expanded Medicaid under the health reform law, a move that allowed childless adults to enroll in the public health program again, that trend is being reversed.

In the first four months of this year, according to the new report, the uncompensated care at Arizona hospitals dropped by 31 percent compared to the same period in 2013. That helped the average operating margin of Arizona hospitals to rise from 4 percent to 5.2 percent over the last year.

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Hospitals providing less uncompensated care should translate to lower costs overall as they don't have to spread those losses among other patients.
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Smitten by Grace?

That's friggin' funny...

Grace did not defend her actions as I recall - she admitted to the one action she unknowingly did and pled to it, and then did defend herself against other actions she was revengefully accused of doing, every one of which were investigated and found to be wholly groundless...

...totally unlike the poster referred to above.
Yeah, you ain't carrying a torch for Grace at all.

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What on earth does Grace have to do with the ACA in Arizona?
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What on earth does Grace have to do with the ACA in Arizona?
Eeyore was desperate to derail this thread from the moment he first arrived.

Bringing up his lost love Grace is usually a tried-n-true derailer.
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:52 PM   #13
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Eeyore was desperate to derail this thread from the moment he first arrived.

Bringing up his lost love Grace is usually a tried-n-true derailer.
That should instead say, "a tried-n-true deraileyer."

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That's old news, and not even particularly interesting.
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That's old news, and not even particularly interesting.
Awwwwww, didn't you once have a lost love, before your heart turned completely to stone?
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Old 07-10-2014, 02:12 PM   #16
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That's old news, and not even particularly interesting.
True, but if you don't shut down Eyer quick and fast, he's just going to needlessly seagull-shit all over your parade with his crappy curmudgeon vendetta against everything and everybody because his favorite cactus broke in the middle of the night while he was humping it too hard and this joint is an outlet for his deep-rooted sexual frustrations.

Plus, it still gets his goat. Oak Tree Boy keeps thinking he's above the clouds, gotta pull down his britches and bring him back to terra firma.
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Old 07-11-2014, 10:23 PM   #17
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Eeyore was desperate to derail this thread from the moment he first arrived.

Bringing up his lost love Grace is usually a tried-n-true derailer.
Absolute truth is: my GB heart has never fallen but for one, and it's nice to read she's still around here posting, so...

...just like Perg, Rub, obviously you just need more time to recover from the butthurt Grace inflicted upon you.

Cheer up, chump...

...I'm sure if you ask sweetly, the entire Board will chip in and buy your sorry azz a last-class, one-way ticket to Gaza.
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What on earth does Grace have to do with the ACA in Arizona?
This is the same pissing contest that comes up whenever eyer has no argument.
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Paul Krugman writes:

Obamacare Fails to Fail

JULY 13, 2014


How many Americans know how health reform is going? For that matter, how many people in the news media are following the positive developments?

I suspect that the answer to the first question is “Not many,” while the answer to the second is “Possibly even fewer,” for reasons I’ll get to later. And if I’m right, it’s a remarkable thing — an immense policy success is improving the lives of millions of Americans, but it’s largely slipping under the radar.

How is that possible? Think relentless negativity without accountability. The Affordable Care Act has faced nonstop attacks from partisans and right-wing media, with mainstream news also tending to harp on the act’s troubles. Many of the attacks have involved predictions of disaster, none of which have come true. But absence of disaster doesn’t make a compelling headline, and the people who falsely predicted doom just keep coming back with dire new warnings.

Consider, in particular, the impact of Obamacare on the number of Americans without health insurance. The initial debacle of the federal website produced much glee on the right and many negative reports from the mainstream press as well; at the beginning of 2014, many reports confidently asserted that first-year enrollments would fall far short of White House projections.

Then came the remarkable late surge in enrollment. Did the pessimists face tough questions about why they got it so wrong? Of course not. Instead, the same people just came out with a mix of conspiracy theories and new predictions of doom. The administration was “cooking the books,” said Senator John Barrasso of Wyoming; people who signed up wouldn’t actually pay their premiums, declared an array of “experts”; more people were losing insurance than gaining it, declared Senator Ted Cruz of Texas.

But the great majority of those who signed up did indeed pay up, and we now have multiple independent surveys — from Gallup, the Urban Institute and the Commonwealth Fund — all showing a sharp reduction in the number of uninsured Americans since last fall.

I’ve been seeing some claims on the right that the dramatic reduction in the number of uninsured was caused by economic recovery, not health reform (so now conservatives are praising the Obama economy?). But that’s pretty lame, and also demonstrably wrong.

For one thing, the decline is too sharp to be explained by what is at best a modest improvement in the employment picture. For another, that Urban Institute survey shows a striking difference between the experience in states that expanded Medicaid — which are also, in general, states that have done their best to make health care reform work — and those that refused to let the federal government cover their poor. Sure enough, the decline in uninsured residents has been three times as large in Medicaid-expansion states as in Medicaid-expansion rejecters. It’s not the economy; it’s the policy, stupid.

What about the cost? Last year there were many claims about “rate shock” from soaring insurance premiums. But last month the Department of Health and Human Services reported that among those receiving federal subsidies — the great majority of those signing up — the average net premium was only $82 a month.

Yes, there are losers from Obamacare. If you’re young, healthy, and affluent enough that you don’t qualify for a subsidy (and don’t get insurance from your employer), your premium probably did rise. And if you’re rich enough to pay the extra taxes that finance those subsidies, you have taken a financial hit. But it’s telling that even reform’s opponents aren’t trying to highlight these stories. Instead, they keep looking for older, sicker, middle-class victims, and keep failing to find them.

You might ask why, if health reform is going so well, it continues to poll badly. It’s crucial, I’d argue, to realize that Obamacare, by design, by and large doesn’t affect Americans who already have good insurance. As a result, many peoples’ views are shaped by the mainly negative coverage in the news media. Still, the latest tracking survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation shows that a rising number of Americans are hearing about reform from family and friends, which means that they’re starting to hear from the program’s beneficiaries.

And as I suggested earlier, people in the media — especially elite pundits — may be the last to hear the good news, simply because they’re in a socioeconomic bracket in which people generally have good coverage.

For the less fortunate, however, the Affordable Care Act has already made a big positive difference. The usual suspects will keep crying failure, but the truth is that health reform is — gasp! — working.
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