4000 men died on D-Day thanks to bad intelligence...

D-day was a cluster fuck that worked out but at a higher than necessary price.

So why are you trying to blame people?

Don't leave out the weather either.
 
Cap’n AMatrixca said:
Who do you blame?

FDR or Hitler?

When you say "bad intelligence" do you mean ignored and cooked intelligence the way the current Republican adminstration fails to prevent 9/11 and invade Iraq?
 
Drixxx said:
When you say "bad intelligence" do you mean ignored and cooked intelligence the way the current Republican adminstration fails to prevent 9/11 and invade Iraq?


I'll go with Hillary's independent reasearch which she touted as the reason why we should invade Iraq for $500...
 
Cap’n AMatrixca said:
Thank you for being consistent, all of you...

Can any of you name the generals in the "civil" war?

Yes I can. Can you distingush your ass from your elbow?
 
Cap’n AMatrixca said:
I'll go with Hillary's independent reasearch which she touted as the reason why we should invade Iraq for $500...

Last time I checked Bush is the President, a Republican, and started the Iraq war.

You are truly delusional if you think Hiliary is more responsible than Bush for the Iraq war.

What is it with Republicans and responsibility? All their failures they try to blame on a Clinton. So pathetic.
 
Drixxx said:
Last time I checked Bush is the President, a Republican, and started the Iraq war.

You are truly delusional if you think Hiliary is more responsible than Bush for the Iraq war.

What is it with Republicans and responsibility? All their failures they try to blame on a Clinton. So pathetic.


Then you should recheck. He went to Congress for permission. They gave it. In fact they even demanded he come back a second time for even more permission because it was an even year and they had to get on record as being hawks for the upcoming elections.

You just cannot single out Republicans when bin laden was the one who set the train in motion...

That's where we got the famous, "I voted against it before I voted for it..."

When Bush is finally percieved as winning again next year, another even year, Democrats will begin to claim the victory as theirs as they claim the surge, which they were for before they were against, was the result of their winning the 06 election and the new course they forced on Bush.
 
Cap’n AMatrixca said:
Who do you blame?

FDR or Hitler?
No one person in particular. There were lots of contributing factors; weather being among them. And it was all on a gamble. If you want to blame any leaders, then Hitler - that scumbag started it all to began with.
 
Actually Hitler did have an influence on Saddam and Iraq's history.
 
Drixxx said:
I don't see any point.


You could try to use facts instead of rhetoric, unless of course, the facts don't fit the story line.

Which Sunni generals are fighting which Shia generals?

I'm saying all the latest reports from Lebanon, to Turkey, to Kurd territory, to Pakistan all show the faithful of Islam kiliing the Heretics in their midst. Same with Anbar once they got a taste of Al Qaeda/Taliban. That's why they Taliban is having little luck in Afghanistan. The Afghans remember the brutal religious repression...
 
Cap’n AMatrixca said:
Thank you for being consistent, all of you...

Can any of you name the generals in the "civil" war?

How many you want?
 
As did FDR as he raced to the Kingdom of Sa'ud after Yalta in order to beat the British to the oil contracts which went, to a large part, to funding the Wahabbi movement which produced Al Qaeda...
 
Cap’n AMatrixca said:
Then you should recheck. He went to Congress for permission. They gave it. In fact they even demanded he come back a second time for even more permission because it was an even year and they had to get on record as being hawks for the upcoming elections.

You just cannot single out Republicans when bin laden was the one who set the train in motion...

That's where we got the famous, "I voted against it before I voted for it..."

When Bush is finally percieved as winning again next year, another even year, Democrats will begin to claim the victory as theirs as they claim the surge, which they were for before they were against, was the result of their winning the 06 election and the new course they forced on Bush.

Bush lied. He said he was going back to the U.N. That was the deal. He didn't. He lied. So now Democrats are responsible for the lies and deal Bush broke?

But beyond that he is the Commander in Chief and has failed. Failed to prevent 9/11. Failed to respond on 9/11. Failed to capture Osama 6 years later. Failed to win the Iraq war.
 
Drixxx said:
Bush lied. He said he was going back to the U.N. That was the deal. He didn't. He lied. So now Democrats are responsible for the lies and deal Bush broke?

But beyond that he is the Commander in Chief and has failed. Failed to prevent 9/11. Failed to respond on 9/11. Failed to capture Osama 6 years later. Failed to win the Iraq war.


Blame everyone but Heretical Islam. It's what they want you to do...

You want the article again?
 
Drixxx said:
Bush lied. He said he was going back to the U.N. That was the deal. He didn't. He lied. So now Democrats are responsible for the lies and deal Bush broke?

But beyond that he is the Commander in Chief and has failed. Failed to prevent 9/11. Failed to respond on 9/11. Failed to capture Osama 6 years later. Failed to win the Iraq war.
What do you expect? He failed to own a winning baseball team too.
 
We won the Iraqi war in a matter of days...

Quit putting down the military.

Then AL Qaeda decided to fight us for the Peace. They are losing. They are losing all over the Islamic world or did not the storming of the Red Mosque and the refugee camps in Lebannon even register with you?

Al Qada is only winning in one place: The hearts and minds of the Western Left whom hate their own society more than any external threat...
 
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