Starting BDSM Lifestyle W/Bipolar Wife

iltibido

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I have always been the Dom in the bedroom and my wife is Submissive, once again in the bedroom, but never went all the way BDSM. I had thrown out the idea a few times but she was resistant to giving up control.

I was considering breaking up because she is Bipolar and it causes problems with every aspect of our life.

During the last 6 month she had an affair with another woman, only had sex twice, I believe her she's come clean about all of it. Evan introduced a third woman who helped her.The other woman is into BDSM and began controlling my wife over the phone, and while at work, giving orders, telling her what color thong to wear, etc.... My wife enjoyed the ball gag they made her wear, being restained, being spanked, being made to follow thier orders.

My wife began enjoy life more, depression issues disappeared which she claims to have had since she could remember.

Now she wants me to become her Master and her my Slave, because she claims she enjoys the freedom off being Submissive. She wants it to envelop our entire life. Including finding another submissive woman to include in on our sex life.

I have read about and been intested in this lifestyle for a very long time.

I am worried that because of her Bipolar issues that this may just be a quick fix and then things will fall apart again, she's getting conselling for the Deprression and Bipolar as well as Medications. Any idea how peaple with this disorder handle this lifestyle, generally speaking, everyone is different of course.

I Love this woman and want this to work out, any ideas, or points of veiw are more than welcome!
 
Wifes Affair

The thing with the other woman whom both Dominated her,,REALLY FUCKING TURNS ME ON!!!

I'm making her tell me every detail, she tells me something such as, they made her make them both cum whilr only using her tongue and while she was restrained.

I make her tell me what was her emotions during this?

What did she enjoy about it?

Did it cause her tongue to get tired?

Etc... etc... etc...

Very detailed and I ask many questions to make her relive every moment.

Fucking blast, making her relive it!!!!
 
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Here's what I expect to happen:

She'll dump your ass and go with her girlfriends. Then she'll run her life into the ditch and call you for some AAA help when her friends dump her and find a new fool to play with. This is how it usually works with bipolars.
 
I agree with the above,

To the OP i think you either need to get in contact with a bipolar who is a sub and ask them about it or you need to talk to a doctor/professional about this, who wont freak out, about this preferance of lifestyle

I myself have very little contact with bipolar's but do know that they can be fine for years or months, then suddenly (this is all depending on how bad the paticular persons is) they may have a meltdown, and thats when you need to be there

But as i said i have no actual knowledge and this is just MHO

Rach :rose:
 
im bipolar, diagnosed when i was 11. im also very happy subssive and have been with A for over two years. the above does indeed sound like a quick fix. if you want to pm me to ask me any questions that you may not want to ask on a public board, feel free. or if you ask me anything here i will answer to the best of my ability. right now my advice is to SLOW down. jumping into a multi person relationship with a large degree of power exchange and unsteady rules probably isnt the best thing for your wife. she says her depression disapeared, but it sound sto me like she jumped into a manic period (for the rest of you, think sub frenzy on steriods), which is just the flip side of the issue, not a solution.

and jamesbjohnson, your generalized steryotype makes me sick
 
I am bipolar. The depression part of it can make the sex drive suffer. However, for some bipolar folks who are more manic, they sometimes use sex to trigger more manic "highs" to feel better.

You need to understand that bipolar disorder is a life long disorder. There is no "quick fix" for it. Therapy and meds can help, but it can be a struggle. For some it is believed to be genetic and runs in families. (my mother is also bipolar)

Being a supportive husband, is all you can do, but if she's using sex to try and "medicate" her feelings, it's only a short term fix and will not last. She needs to focus more on therapy and finding the right combination of meds. Her mental health needs to be the most important thing right now.

Right now, it sounds like her interest in being submissive is temporarily easing some of her symptoms. There's nothing wrong with her enjoying herself sexually by being submissive, but many of us who suffer with these mental disorders, wrongly assume it's all we need. We try to "medicate" ourselves with sex, drugs, alcohol, etc.

Each bipolar person is different. Different things help us feel better. If she enjoys being submissive, that's fine but she needs to understand that it is not a replacement for her therapy and meds. She really needs to give those as much equal attention as the BDSM stuff.

I wish you and her luck. Bipolar disorder can be very hard to live with, and most of us hope we are lucky enough to find someone to support us no matter how gloomy our days are sometimes. Being a supportive husband and encouraging her to continue her meds and therapy is the best thing you can do. But she also needs to do some of the work herself instead of relying on sex to feel better.

Good luck to you both with this.
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
Here's what I expect to happen:

She'll dump your ass and go with her girlfriends. Then she'll run her life into the ditch and call you for some AAA help when her friends dump her and find a new fool to play with. This is how it usually works with bipolars.

*ROFL!!!!!!*

Sorry...I meant to be gone by now... Stopped by to check the PM box and saw this...

NOPE...*LOL* It's not a "generalization"... As a matter of fact.. It's so damned common nowadays it might as well be a list of symptoms..

"BDSM lifestyle with BiPolar wife"?????....
Why??
Make it easy on yourself.. Save some time.. Follow these steps..
Empty your bank account.. {Give the money to someone you hate already. It'll save LOADS of time}. Overdraft your credit cards {again, extra points if you just give the damn things to the spouse and her "lover DuJour"}.
Get yourself in massive legal and financial trouble... Don't pay bills.. Refuse to register the cars... Arrange a "Domestic disturbance" or two {extra points if you can manage to spend 24 hours in jail (something which fortunately I managed to miss out on..Though I know people who haven't)}. You get the idea...
Abandon anything which resembles a responsibility...
Oh, and create yourself an "Alt" identity..Spend hours online spreading the idea that your "real life" self, is the reincarnation of Sweeny Todd and Mr. Hyde combined.
Etc...Etc..Etc..

Sounds extreme? Sounds like I have some personal axe to grind?
Yup...
But...I know of 'AT LEAST' 4 divorces and half a dozen failed relationships that followed this pattern.. Almost exactly.. Every time.
*sigh* And in every damned one of the BDSM related ones, the spouse started out just happy as a clam with it.
However, I still think the best one is the one where the spouse emptied the bank account and ran off to Aruba to be with the asshole she met online... SPent all the money and then had the balls to come home..
Her husband realized something was up when he wrote the paychecks for the men in his company and they all bounced...When he KNEW the money was there...
When asked about it{her return}, her reply was "Oh, I didn't like him".
She honestly couldn't figure out why her spouse wouldn't welcome her back with open arms...
*lol*
I worked with her husband for a while..8 years later he was STILL trying to recover from all the mess.. Nice guy, in debt up to his eyeballs, poor as a church mouse.

Oh..Did I mention that because they argued about this little matter {No physical violence} she managed to have him thrown in jail for 24 hours. But thats ok..She also managed to get a restraining order.. Which by some leap of legal logic, kept him out of his own house. While they forced him to pay the bills.
Convenient for her.. It gave her time to finish stealing him blind.
Oh...AND she managed to get herself declared "disabled" and he ended up having to pay alimony.

BDSM relationship with a BiPolar spouse...
Fuck...
Just shoot yourself...
It's faster, will hurt a LOT less, and in the end not nearly as many people will think badly of you..

And now...Having answered my PM's .. I bid you all adeau... I just don't care enough anymore to tell polite lies.. Which makes me unwelcome here I think.
 
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life nior, just becuase youve had bad experiences does not mean every bdsm relationship with a bipolar partner is bound to end up in flaming ruins
 
Life_Noir said:
*ROFL!!!!!!*

Sorry...I meant to be gone by now... Stopped by to check the PM box and saw this...

NOPE...*LOL* It's not a "generalization"... As a matter of fact.. It's so damned common nowadays it might as well be a list of symptoms..

"BDSM lifestyle with BiPolar wife"?????....
Why??
Make it easy on yourself.. Save some time.. Follow these steps..
Empty your bank account.. {Give the money to someone you hate already. It'll save LOADS of time}. Overdraft your credit cards {again, extra points if you just give the damn things to the spouse and her "lover DuJour"}.
Get yourself in massive legal and financial trouble... Don't pay bills.. Refuse to register the cars... Arrange a "Domestic disturbance" or two {extra points if you can manage to spend 24 hours in jail (something which fortunately I managed to miss out on..Though I know people who haven't)}. You get the idea...
Abandon anything which resembles a responsibility...
Oh, and create yourself an "Alt" identity..Spend hours online spreading the idea that your "real life" self, is the reincarnation of Sweeny Todd and Mr. Hyde combined.
Etc...Etc..Etc..

Sounds extreme? Sounds like I have some personal axe to grind?
Yup...
But...I know of 'AT LEAST' 4 divorces and half a dozen failed relationships that followed this pattern.. Almost exactly.. Every time.
*sigh* And in every damned one of the BDSM related ones, the spouse started out just happy as a clam with it.
However, I still think the best one is the one where the spouse emptied the bank account and ran off to Aruba to be with the asshole she met online... SPent all the money and then had the balls to come home..
Her husband realized something was up when he wrote the paychecks for the men in his company and they all bounced...When he KNEW the money was there...
When asked about it{her return}, her reply was "Oh, I didn't like him".
She honestly couldn't figure out why her spouse wouldn't welcome her back with open arms...
*lol*
I worked with her husband for a while..8 years later he was STILL trying to recover from all the mess.. Nice guy, in debt up to his eyeballs, poor as a church mouse.

Oh..Did I mention that because they argued about this little matter {No physical violence} she managed to have him thrown in jail for 24 hours. But thats ok..She also managed to get a restraining order.. Which by some leap of legal logic, kept him out of his own house. While they forced him to pay the bills.
Convenient for her.. It gave her time to finish stealing him blind.
Oh...AND she managed to get herself declared "disabled" and he ended up having to pay alimony.

BDSM relationship with a BiPolar spouse...
Fuck...
Just shoot yourself...
It's faster, will hurt a LOT less, and in the end not nearly as many people will think badly of you..

And now...Having answered my PM's .. I bid you all adeau... I just don't care enough anymore to tell polite lies.. Which makes me unwelcome here I think.



Again, not all bipolar people are the same. I have never cheated on any of my boyfriends, never spent all their money, or ran off with someone I met on the internet. I work full time and pay all my bills.

Are there bipolar women and men, who do some of the things you listed above? Of course, but there are also many women and men who are not bipolar that do terrible things to their spouses.

I get tired of people who've had bad experiences with bipolar folks assuming we are all "bad" and "crazy". It simply is not the case.

I am sorry to hear your friends had such negative experiences, but please don't judge all of us on those experiences.

I am living proof, that there are good bipolar people out there who don't take advantage of others.

You are generalizing based on your personal experience.
 
Soulfiregirl said:
Again, not all bipolar people are the same. I have never cheated on any of my boyfriends, never spent all their money, or ran off with someone I met on the internet. I work full time and pay all my bills.

Are there bipolar women and men, who do some of the things you listed above? Of course, but there are also many women and men who are not bipolar that do terrible things to their spouses.

I get tired of people who've had bad experiences with bipolar folks assuming we are all "bad" and "crazy". It simply is not the case.

I am sorry to hear your friends had such negative experiences, but please don't judge all of us on those experiences.

I am living proof, that there are good bipolar people out there who don't take advantage of others.

You are generalizing based on your personal experience.

you said what i wanted to but more elequently
 
myinnerslut said:
you said what i wanted to but more elequently


Thanks. ;) We bipolar folks need to stick up for each other ya know? I get tired of hearing people dis us just because they've had a bad experience with one of us.

I have no patience for closed minded people, especially when it comes to something like mental illness. Some folks assume we're "all the same" and that irks me.

Bipolar folks need compassion and understanding, not indifference.
 
Soulfiregirl said:
Thanks. ;) We bipolar folks need to stick up for each other ya know? I get tired of hearing people dis us just because they've had a bad experience with one of us.

I have no patience for closed minded people, especially when it comes to something like mental illness. Some folks assume we're "all the same" and that irks me.

Bipolar folks need compassion and understanding, not indifference.
I am bipolar too, and trying really hard through therapy and medicines to live a good life where I take care of myself and the others around me. Thanks for also saying what I would have liked to say but didn't know the words.
 
MelancholyBaby said:
I am bipolar too, and trying really hard through therapy and medicines to live a good life where I take care of myself and the others around me. Thanks for also saying what I would have liked to say but didn't know the words.


Good for you. I know it's hard, but it does get better over time. You just need to hang in there. You may have "slips" over time, but the key is to keep working at it.

I go to a bipolar support group sometimes with someone who struggled for a long time before he found the right med combo. But when he finally did, it was worth it and he started to feel better.

There are support groups all over the country. You might find one helpful along with the therapist and meds.

Here's a link to the Depression and Bipolar support Alliance:

http://www.dbsalliance.org/site/PageServer?pagename=support_findsupport
 
I have to agree that it seems more than this is her manic or up phase and not a cure.. I would keep the lines of communication open and just proceed with caution ... for both your sakes..
 
iltibido said:
I was considering breaking up because she is Bipolar and it causes problems with every aspect of our life.

This is the part that jumped out at me. Did you know she was bipolar before you married her? She needs your love and support while she and her doctors find the right combination of medications and therapy to help her find equilibrium in her life. She does not need to feel like she's broken because of something that can be treated. Yes, it will cause problems until the right combination is found, but with support and a good doctor, she should be able to level off and your relationship should as well.

Just because she's cheating on you with a woman doesn't mean she's no longer bipolar. It may have fulfilled the "two girl" fantasy and give you good wanking material, but it's still cheating and not a miracle cure. If her bipolar disorder was a big enough issue that you were going to divorce her before, it should still be a big enough issue now.
 
iltibido said:
I have always been the Dom in the bedroom and my wife is Submissive, once again in the bedroom, but never went all the way BDSM. I had thrown out the idea a few times but she was resistant to giving up control.

I was considering breaking up because she is Bipolar and it causes problems with every aspect of our life.

During the last 6 month she had an affair with another woman, only had sex twice, I believe her she's come clean about all of it.
Evan introduced a third woman who helped her.The other woman is into BDSM and began controlling my wife over the phone, and while at work, giving orders, telling her what color thong to wear, etc.... My wife enjoyed the ball gag they made her wear, being restained, being spanked, being made to follow thier orders.

My wife began enjoy life more, depression issues disappeared which she claims to have had since she could remember.

Now she wants me to become her Master and her my Slave, because she claims she enjoys the freedom off being Submissive. She wants it to envelop our entire life. Including finding another submissive woman to include in on our sex life.

I have read about and been intested in this lifestyle for a very long time.

I am worried that because of her Bipolar issues that this may just be a quick fix and then things will fall apart again, she's getting conselling for the Deprression and Bipolar as well as Medications. Any idea how peaple with this disorder handle this lifestyle, generally speaking, everyone is different of course.

I Love this woman and want this to work out, any ideas, or points of veiw are more than welcome!

BDSM is not a cure all. Actually, having BDSM introduced into an already unstable relationship is a very bad idea.
 
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And sometimes, even all the love and support and right medication and doctors isnt enough. We're not in his shoes right now and shouldnt judge if it's the right thing for him to do .. staying or leaving..
 
My thoughts are you need to look at you, more so than worry about whether to get into BDSM or her bipolar condition. If you were prepared to break up with her before this came up, what has really changed except you think you might be onto a good thing? While you may have been interested in living this lifestyle before this point, it is not wise to think it is the glue which will hold your relationship together...as with any relationship, you need a solid foundation of love, trust, honesty, and respect...it doesn't sound as if that was how you were feeling when you were ready to walk out, why do you think it has changed?

Catalina :catroar:
 
MELANCHOLY BABY

You bullshit your friends, and I'll bullshit mine, but let's not bullshit each other about bipolars.
 
No JAMES B JOHNSON (caps for emphasis), I am just another crazy woman who seduces good, unsuspecting men and takes their money and runs off with my internet lovers and then calls them when I get in some trouble. I am glad that you have it all figured out and are able to see "bipolars" for what they really are. :rolleyes:
 
We've been together for 11 1/2 years, married for 5, and " I'm Superman and can fix it all, just give me the oppurtunity and the time" FUCK, it's just the mental issues have wore me down. It's almost as if I need a support group of my own, just to learn to deal with her issues, and mantain a positive outlook on the situation.

I don't do well with quiting, giving up, throwing in the towel, it's not in my nature. And Astrology believers, Early VIRGO!!!!

But I have found a fresh situation and can fix, our relationship?

Life Noir, have gone through many of those issues already, FUCK!!!

I JUST CAN'T QUITE TRYING!!!!
 
MELANCHOLY BABY

I know a few bipolars who have their shit together. They take their meds, they go to therapy, and they have happy, successful lives.

I know lions and bears who are gentle pets.

I worked in a psychiatric hospital assessing admissions. I saw a lot of wild & crazy bipolars over the years. Drunk, drugged out of their skulls, usually naked, always violent and cursing.

What do you wanna tell me about em?

Straigthen me out.
 
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