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Bandit58

Bandit58

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I recently read a post on collarme where someone said that service was not submission. :confused:

I am in a 24/7 D/s relationship with Master Gil. By 24/7 I mean that I am available for anything and everything He wishes of me. It could be sexual. Or something as small as making Him a cup of tea. I also take care of His health needs (of which there are many including getting meds ready, testing blood sugar level and acting accordingly with insulin or glucose, and going with Him to home training for haemodialysis). When we get a machine at home, I will be His medical assistant there as well :)

Our relationship started out as bedroom D/s. But as I'm naturally submissive, it soon broadened to include the things I have mentioned above. I consider my service to Him to be how I express my submission (and love of course) :)

But vanilla relationships have these forms of service included as well. What, in your opinion, makes the difference between that and the service I provide to my Dom?
 
Submission=doing things that make him happy, whether they're things I enjoy or not.

My service makes him happy. Therefore, in my mind, service=submission. :)
 
BiBunny said:
Submission=doing things that make him happy, whether they're things I enjoy or not.

My service makes him happy. Therefore, in my mind, service=submission. :)
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yep. that makes sense to me.
 
Perfect timing for this question...I just got finished having a long heated discussion with my husband. We are not in a D/s relation with each other, but there is so much about life that I find I need to just suck up and deal with. In a vanilla relationship there is always going to be things you have to do that you don't want to do. I don't know if it is because my husband is active duty military and all the things we have to deal with lately but more and more I think I have less freedom of choice in my marriage than in my D/s relationship.

I am not saying there are not differences, right now for me though they are very close.
 
Bandit58 said:
I recently read a post on collarme where someone said that service was not submission. :confused:

I am in a 24/7 D/s relationship with Master Gil. By 24/7 I mean that I am available for anything and everything He wishes of me. It could be sexual. Or something as small as making Him a cup of tea. I also take care of His health needs (of which there are many including getting meds ready, testing blood sugar level and acting accordingly with insulin or glucose, and going with Him to home training for haemodialysis). When we get a machine at home, I will be His medical assistant there as well :)

Our relationship started out as bedroom D/s. But as I'm naturally submissive, it soon broadened to include the things I have mentioned above. I consider my service to Him to be how I express my submission (and love of course) :)

But vanilla relationships have these forms of service included as well. What, in your opinion, makes the difference between that and the service I provide to my Dom?
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Your frame of mind and reference and His, Bandit. That's what makes the difference for me, at least.

My frame of mind and reference is that of submission to HIM, whether we're both home or we are both job traveling. I take care of the things I know he needs/wants me to take care of, no matter where we are and if I can't, then he knows and knows why, immediately. (Sometimes I have appointments with a doctor or for lab work or something else has come up and he is apprised immediately that I might not've gotten something done for him.) I will get it done eventually, though.

By the way, I hope he's feeling good, and you are too. ;-)
 
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BiBunny said:
Submission=doing things that make him happy, whether they're things I enjoy or not.

My service makes him happy. Therefore, in my mind, service=submission. :)
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Thanks Bunny :) There are things that I don't enjoy doing, for example having to get up at 5.45am 3 times a week to get us out the door for training. He doesn't enjoy that either btw! However there are lots of things that I love doing, that totally make up for the yukky things (like being dragged to the bedroom an hour ago to give Him a bj :devil: :D )
 
A Desert Rose said:
Your frame of mind and reference and His, Bandit. That's what makes the difference for me, at least.

My frame of mind and reference is that of submission to HIM, whether we're both home or we are both job traveling. I take care of the things I know he needs/wants me to take care of, no matter where we are and if I can't, then he knows and knows why, immediately. (Sometimes I have appointments with a doctor or for lab work or something else has come up and he is apprised immediately that I might not've gotten something done for him.) I will get it done eventually, though.

By the way, I hope he's feeling good, and you are too. ;-)
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Thanks ADR you hit the nail on the head for me. What I read on collar me made me begin to doubt myself a little - lol I should know not to take what I read there too seriously! :rolleyes:

We are both still getting over the niggles of the last of the flu we have had.....however that bj has somehow eased the tickle in my throat.....;) Master knows best.....:D :cattail:
 
i was reading a novel yesterday and there was a quote in it that i really liked. It talks about obedience..but i believe it is relevant to this thread.
" Obedience is doing something because you have to do it-because someone told you to and you know it has to be done. But "true" obedience is doing it because you want to please the other person. When it's "true", your own feelings don't matter-you want to obey just to make the other person smile"
 
I personally prefer service and obedience - most often a person into these will be submissive, but not always. I can handle that. I value service and obedience over whether that person fantasizes endlessly about being "powerless" which is really useless to me.

In other words, tell 'em to shove it kindly, bandit. :)
 
I'm sure that submission has a different, uniquely personal meaning for each one of us.

For me, service is definitely a component of my submission. I cannot imagine my submission without it. Other components include surrender, devotion and obedience. It's interesting to note that the exact mix shifts with the situation and the dynamics of the relationship.

Although in a vanilla context, you might care for Master Gil similarly as his wife, it is what is in your heart as you render the service that makes it submission.

Health and happiness to you both. :rose:
 
My role as His collared property is very simple -- to make His life easier in any way i can.

So ANYTHING i do for Him that goes toward that goal (whether it is shaving Him in the morning, worshipping His cock while he is eating dinner, or picking up the dry cleaning) is submission.

Just my tuppence.
 
I think most of us fall prey to the views and opinions of others far too often....what really counts is the opinion of the one we serve, submit to, or are in love with. For me personally I think that service can be part of submission, but does not necessarily have to be submissive just as submission doesn't necessarily have to fall under service...but once again it is about mindset and the particular terms of a relationship and how those within the relationship view it, not anyone on the outside. I think you do wonders for Gil, and I know he appreciates it and loves you to bits, so what does it matter what a CollarMe poster thinks in the end? You know what it is to you, and where it comes from and that is honest and real. :rose:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1405/770414535_f32c430fe5_t.jpg Catalina
 
Submission?

" Obedience is doing something because you have to do it-because someone told you to and you know it has to be done. But "true" obedience is doing it because you want to please the other person. When it's "true", your own feelings don't matter-you want to obey just to make the other person smile"

Somebody posted this earlier and it couldnt be said best. For me I submit to him and do whatever he asks... It wouldnt matter what he asks it is to do some people think he takes it too far but for me it works.. so I agree with Catalina that it is up to each individual....

:nana:
 
Miss Bandit when I read this thread and due to our shared citizenery I decided to offer my opinion on two points in a very Australian way. I am sure you and Master Gil are familiar with the movie the Castle.

As far as those that chose to say service is not submission .........

Darryl Kerrigan: "Tell him he's dreaming"

If they are misguided enough to ask how ........

Dennis Denuto: "It's the vibe of the thing, your Honor "

At the end of the day , when all is well in your World , no one attempting to define that which you and Master Gil know you share , and a sweet contentment settles one might ask....

Darryl Kerrigan: "Hows the serenity?"

Within the context of the movie I sincerely hope this makes you smile . I would love to use these phrases more often , suspect they wouldn't be readily appreciated :rose:
 
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Just because someone makes a statement, that does not make it true.

A better statement would have been "I do not believe that service is submission." That is an opinion.

In my world service, is definitely a major component of submission.

To serve and to be of service is a core value for Me and Mine.

Others can and do take a different view. To each his or her own.
 
I can serve someone without submitting to them. But I've learned the hard way that I can't submit to someone without serving them.

In my opinion, attitude coupled with action makes service submission.
 
Thanks to everyone for your replies :) Master Gil has read this thread too and He totally agrees with you, especially rebecca (we have both seen The Castle and "get it" lol :D)

Now if only Master Gil's sister would "get it" too - on her recent visit from Canada she was horrified at how I "ran after Him" :rolleyes: I tried to explain that it made me happy to do things for Him but she kept saying she'd have to have a good talk with me - luckily she went home before that could happen!

As a joke He took a pic of me on my knees lacing up His boots......she was horrified.....:D
 
Bandit58 said:
Thanks to everyone for your replies :) Master Gil has read this thread too and He totally agrees with you, especially rebecca (we have both seen The Castle and "get it" lol :D)

Now if only Master Gil's sister would "get it" too - on her recent visit from Canada she was horrified at how I "ran after Him" :rolleyes: I tried to explain that it made me happy to do things for Him but she kept saying she'd have to have a good talk with me - luckily she went home before that could happen!

As a joke He took a pic of me on my knees lacing up His boots......she was horrified.....:D
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Ahhhhh : bigsmiles : I am thrilled it amused you both . The sentiment rings true :rose:

Re : Image

I imagine you could think of a suitable pose if you wanted the sister in law to fall off her mortal perch. I would offer some suggestions though I imagine ( not in the biblical sense ) that you have no need for advancement of ideal in that department !
 
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