I Hate Blackmail As A Plot Device

TheeGoatPig

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I especially hate it in porn stories. It has nearly run me off of several stories never to come back again because it really is an annoying plotline.

Maybe that's because I don't fall for blackmail scams? They are so easy to get out of. If it's something that won't get you tossed in jail, call the cops. If it's something that could, murder is always an option. Usually just bringing the item being blackmailed over into the public eye before the blackmailers can takes away all of their power. How do you blackmail someone who will admit to anything you accuse him of?

It's just not something that works with me. Maybe that's because I'm an honest person.

What does everyone else want to see less of in the stories they read?
 
TheeGoatPig said:
I especially hate it in porn stories. It has nearly run me off of several stories never to come back again because it really is an annoying plotline.

Maybe that's because I don't fall for blackmail scams? They are so easy to get out of. If it's something that won't get you tossed in jail, call the cops. If it's something that could, murder is always an option. Usually just bringing the item being blackmailed over into the public eye before the blackmailers can takes away all of their power. How do you blackmail someone who will admit to anything you accuse him of?

It's just not something that works with me. Maybe that's because I'm an honest person.

What does everyone else want to see less of in the stories they read?
I committed that sin, by request. I was short of ideas and went to the Story Ideas forum, where a woman from Germany wanted a story about her father-in-law involving her in gang sex, via blackmail, at his sailing club. It was extraordinarily difficult to write. I found it unreal and very much something that stretched credulity.

OTOH, not only did she herself love it, but another lady whom I respect found the story enormously erotic. Men have found it less than ideal, as I did, and often for similar reasons. But women! It never has held on to an H for more than a week, but it provokes comment.

I think perhaps the blackmailed-into-sex idea answers the fantasies of the VICTIM more than those of the perp. It would remove responsibility for slutdom, wouldn't it?
 
How about a blackmail plot where the blackmailee kills the blackmailer and then the blackmailer comes back as a ghost and haunts the blackmailee and does all sorts of wicked sexual stuff to them...would that be a cool story?


As for what I'd like to see less of? How about rediculus euphamisms? Or ones that are just offensive?
 
Yeah. I'm with ya on the euphemisms.

Once in a while there's a thread about terms in the language for fuckin or for pussy, and you know, there are many dozens. But so what? From the point of view of a writer they are are doubtful utility. We need to communicate. Quiff, quim, sweet patootie, poon, and blood oyster may all mean twat (or like, minge, ax-wound, or snatch), but we aren't writing a thesaurus.
 
cantdog said:
Yeah. I'm with ya on the euphemisms.

Once in a while there's a thread about terms in the language for fuckin or for pussy, and you know, there are many dozens. But so what? From the point of view of a writer they are are doubtful utility. We need to communicate. Quiff, quim, sweet patootie, poon, and blood oyster may all mean twat (or like, minge, ax-wound, or snatch), but we aren't writing a thesaurus.
Personally, I find them distracting when I'm reading a story, and the last thing I want when someone is reading something of mine is for them to be rolling their eyes or snickering over a poorly chosen synonym. The only thing I want them laughing at are things that I've deliberately made funny. And if they groan it ought to be in either desire, or sympathy for one of the characters. *nods*
 
Sweet patootie?!? :nana:

I want to see less of the soft and dainty curtains-in-the-windows action in lesbian fiction ;)
 
Stella_Omega said:
Sweet patootie?!? :nana:

I want to see less of the soft and dainty curtains-in-the-windows action in lesbian fiction ;)
Not a lot of raw, hardcore fucking going on in that category, eh?
 
Well, I admit, sweet patootie is turn-of-the-20th-century terminology. You hear it on blues recordings and read it in mid-Victorian soft porn.
 
cantdog said:
Well, I admit, sweet patootie is turn-of-the-20th-century terminology. You hear it on blues recordings and read it in mid-Victorian soft porn.
Interesting. The only way I've ever heard it used is by old, Southern men.

"You bet your sweet patootie," and such like.
 
Tom Collins said:
Interesting. The only way I've ever heard it used is by old, Southern men.

"You bet your sweet patootie," and such like.
I have no access to old, southern men. But it's nice to know.
 
I hate it when the euphemism changes with each reference to that body part.
For crying out loud, choose one and stick to it! I don't care if it's 'dick', 'cock' or 'rod' but pick one, not three (please, don't make it 'love meat' or something similar *gag*).
Most people have a personal favourite that they use, don't think I've ever met someone that runs through the whole thesaurus.
 
starrkers said:
I hate it when the euphemism changes with each reference to that body part.
For crying out loud, choose one and stick to it! I don't care if it's 'dick', 'cock' or 'rod' but pick one, not three (please, don't make it 'love meat' or something similar *gag*).
Most people have a personal favourite that they use, don't think I've ever met someone that runs through the whole thesaurus.

I do that. But that's because I can't stand to read the same word over and over again.

I do not, however, use terms like 'love muscle' or 'sperm tunnel' or whatever. That makes me gag.
 
TheeGoatPig said:
What does everyone else want to see less of in the stories they read?

Derogatary(sp?) labels/expressions. My eyes automatically start rolling whenever I read something like "fuck-hungry cum-slut" or "pressed the cock into the shitter" or something like that.

It's not sexy. It just shows that the writer views sex as something naughty and dirty, and his/her characters as lowlives for "giving in to their sinful needs". :rolleyes:
 
I'd resort to using blackmail in my stories, that's probably the only way I could get them fucking published.
 
rgraham666 said:
I do that. But that's because I can't stand to read the same word over and over again.

I do not, however, use terms like 'love muscle' or 'sperm tunnel' or whatever. That makes me gag.

Oh god, 'love muscle' - it's pathetic, isn't it?
I was mainly meaning the stories that can't don't the same word twice - like it's a competition to use as many synonyms as possible. If the change is for effect, that's completely different.
 
starrkers said:
Oh god, 'love muscle' - it's pathetic, isn't it?
I was mainly meaning the stories that can't don't the same word twice - like it's a competition to use as many synonyms as possible. If the change is for effect, that's completely different.

Oh yes. I understand what you mean now.

"So you've got a thesaurus. I'm soooooo impressed" is my reaction to those sorts of stories. ;)
 
I think I'm guilty of everything that people don't want to see...
 
Tom Collins said:
Not a lot of raw, hardcore fucking going on in that category, eh?
I don't know who besides me writes that way- but I can't possibly be the only one ;)

... there's something about the word "slut", though, that gets to me. :cool:
 
I'd like to see less of this:

"MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"

"Ooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

"Yessssssssssssssssssssssssss"


:rolleyes:

I wrote one story with a revenge type angle. It was a story that came from a thread on the "Story Idea" forum. I thought it would be nice to write something different. It was. It got about a 50/50 reaction to it. *shrugs* I am happy with my work and if I felt another "revenge" type story appealed to me as a writing challenge I would write another one.
 
RedHairedandFriendly said:
I'd like to see less of this:

"MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"

"Ooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

"Yessssssssssssssssssssssssss"

I gave up writing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at the end of a sentence when I was 10.
 
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