Distant Domination.....No contact Domination

Distance Domination:

Domination from a distance without a physical touch..how many of you think this is possible. It might be physically present but no physical touch domination (mind control at short distance) or long distance domination via email,sms, phone, live chat etc; I am a firm believer that distance domination is NOT a fantasy but a truth and that it is possible (tried with few already on a short term.. of course some BDSM training will require physical contact or touch).

For example I was talking of self discipline training that will discipline the slave to obey exactly what the master wants the slave to do! and NOT an inch more or an inch less..meaning exact. This kind of control is needed (and both master and slave should be co operative on this kind of domination since it is more about achievement - taking up control by the master and giving up control by the sub/slave!). A simple Q: Do you think that with adequate training (self disciplining etc) Is it possible for someone to do an Extreme BDSM Play in the form of say Boob Suspension? Of course safety issues attended and adequately instructed to the slave and if needed a chaperone present (a person just to intervene but NOT take control)...

I am just wondering because of the masters with whom I have interacted and the subs always feel a bit that it is NOT possible to be gratified by distance domination.

Regards,
Orient Master of East (India)

Uhhhh yeah.

"Boob suspension" is done by professional models and riggers whose jobs it is to do nothing but tie people for 8 hours a day and best left to those people. It is never safe. It is always high risk. Every time a breast suspension comes off without a woman having her tits completely separated from the ribcage is a minor miracle and a generally bad idea. Some models have been injured and basically had their careers ended (boobs on the knees isn't hot for many people.)

I'm with Netzach...lots of people fantasise, it takes more to be successful at D/s for real and safely. Personally, for me distance is a limited concept which cannot fulfil me if there is nothing more to come, and given my own mindset which I acknowledge is mine, not everyone's, why would anyone want to settle for 'no contact' distance D/s when there is so much opportunity to be one on one?

Catalina

catalina_francisco said:

I'm with Netzach...lots of people fantasise, it takes more to be successful at D/s for real and safely. Personally, for me distance is a limited concept which cannot fulfil me if there is nothing more to come, and given my own mindset which I acknowledge is mine, not everyone's, why would anyone want to settle for 'no contact' distance D/s when there is so much opportunity to be one on one?

Catalina

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You are absolutely right.. but just take my own case. There was this one lady who was exploring her submissive side and was quite elderly! When I had messaged that I would be willing to guide, the Q was "what can you,a 23 yr old, offer to a lady .... yrs old?" We then proceeded to discuss this and she was convinced about my inclination and there she found a person she might willingly be under! Then there was naturally this issue of physical presence...which is NOT possible!

Due to geographical constraints and due to other factors finding a local sub/slave is NOT that easy. To be frank, I did come across one from my own country (not my place just my own country and that girl confessed she was doing it for the money in it!!!). And I know that many profiles of Indians that confess to be males might just be females...faking is common here in INDIA! This is largely due to the taboo surrounding the topic of sex per se and more so if it is something alternative lifestyle! It is NOT legal in India to be in BDSM relationship per se! So, we are to be satisfied with a fantasy (with consensual adults which no one can prevent/curb!).

At these circumstances, the only possibility is VERY long distance domination...Hope i have cleared that doubt/aspect. Why is it that I can only take online subs/slaves for training!

Regards,
boobsqueeezer

Regarding extreme distance domination

Netzach said:

Uhhhh yeah.

"Boob suspension" is done by professional models and riggers whose jobs it is to do nothing but tie people for 8 hours a day and best left to those people. It is never safe. It is always high risk. Every time a breast suspension comes off without a woman having her tits completely separated from the ribcage is a minor miracle and a generally bad idea. Some models have been injured and basically had their careers ended (boobs on the knees isn't hot for many people.)

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I really wanted to know about every level and I just wanted to know specifically the perspective of the users about this EXTREME stuff too. I know the potential harm in this exercise and I am NOT suggesting suspension for hours at a stretch.

Because if I want to have the sub/slave spank herself 20 times or even a flogging of two .. or ask her to cane herself (as punishments) or a corner time of 20 mins on knees etc. these are something that DO NOT need really the supervision of the master! The orders can be taken by the slave online and executed and she can report back. There are some trainings which can be done alone but are dangerous unless there is adequte safety precautions taken.(confinement and bondage are examples..not just the extreme ones but even normal ones.). Most

A pull does NOT do much damage ... I am definitely NOT considering suspension for hrs at a stretch but the wish to explore it slowly but NOT to an extent that there is no permanent damage(of course if that is what the slave wants..still if I feel the slave cannot take it.. I would never allow it! Believe me I am in medical field and do know the limits of the body).

I never would go ahead with these unless it is what the slave seeks and I know that the body can take it up! I am a safety freak. A bit of pain is what a sub might seek but it is NOT what I would give until safety is assured no matter how trivial!

Regards,
boobsqueeezer

Dude, you may be in a medical field but I have done over 100 bondage full suspensions with people who survived the experience. That's not a ton, but it's 100 more than you, it appears. I was taught by people who have done THOUSANDS such suspensions, and none of them admitted to having done all weight taken by-the-boobs.

If you mean just tying up a pair of boobs and yanking the rope that's one thing, (and it still has plenty of risks, maybe you should look up some of the possible links between internal scarring and breast cancer incidences?) when you say suspension I'm assuming you are talking about someone hanging from her boobs.

PERMANENT nerve damage, so that a person loses all use of a limb can happen in under a minute. Duration has nothing to do with anything. If you don't believe me, I recommend you practise suspension by your own testicles. Just for, you know, a minute or so.

what we jack off to in the world of online SM porn are photos which are often

1.faked
2. involve a camera crew and 5 or 6 spotters and more than one rigger
3. staged specifically for a camera
4. held for as long as it takes to snap a shutter. A second, literally. Then instead of untying someone you have 5 guys to catch her and take all her weight before the ropes so much as get touched

Is it possible? Maybe.

Is it fulfilling? I doubt it.

boobsqueeezer said:

Because if I want to have the sub/slave spank herself 20 times or even a flogging of two .. or ask her to cane herself (as punishments) or a corner time of 20 mins on knees etc. these are something that DO NOT need really the supervision of the master! The orders can be taken by the slave online and executed and she can report back.
Regards,
boobsqueeezer

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How on earth do you cane yourself

Not that I would, if he asked me to I would lie.

What would be the point of punishing myself, I wouldn't do it hard enough to hurt myself and I would feel stupid. It is easier to lie.

Oh, don't get me one the subject of punishments....how the hell can you do something wrong online?
And if it is play punishment....whats playful about being punished?

I am not knocking online, but captains wench is the only person whose posts I have ever read who has convinced me that she really does hurt herself on his behalf. I don't have that level of courage.
Thank God he doesn't choose that way to Dominate me, our relationship would not last 5 minutes.

shy slave said:

How on earth do you cane yourself

Not that I would, if he asked me to I would lie.

What would be the point of punishing myself, I wouldn't do it hard enough to hurt myself and I would feel stupid. It is easier to lie.

Oh, don't get me one the subject of punishments....how the hell can you do something wrong online?
And if it is play punishment....whats playful about being punished?

I am not knocking online, but captains wench is the only person whose posts I have ever read who has convinced me that she really does hurt herself on his behalf. I don't have that level of courage.
Thank God he doesn't choose that way to Dominate me, our relationship would not last 5 minutes.

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*just sighs*

HOW it can be done and done well has been posted and explained by those of us that do this many times. Yet no one ever seems to hear it, because it isn't what works for them.

I'm tired of explaining something that apparently no one listens to because the attitudes are always the same. I'll let someone else try.

serijules said:

*just sighs*

HOW it can be done and done well has been posted and explained by those of us that do this many times. Yet no one ever seems to hear it, because it isn't what works for them.

I'm tired of explaining something that apparently no one listens to because the attitudes are always the same. I'll let someone else try.

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I've been in a long distance relationship which involves tasks, discipline, etc- it can be done. However, I find it a rather lonely exercise; thus, my comment about being doubtful it is very fulfilling.

serijules said:

*just sighs*

HOW it can be done and done well has been posted and explained by those of us that do this many times. Yet no one ever seems to hear it, because it isn't what works for them.

I'm tired of explaining something that apparently no one listens to because the attitudes are always the same. I'll let someone else try.

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I am sorry seri.

I have read your journals and they make sense to me, I do understand how you can do this and the captains wench because you are so clear about the details. But for the most part I can't help but think a great many subs would be like me and lie.

Now I don't want to get off track, lies are not good in a relationship so therefore it would not work as a relationship.

I know you see Dawnie and therefore not all of your relationship is online. Captains wench is not able to see Journar yet, so to me, she was a better example to use. You know how much it hurts when Dawnie uses you, Captains wench does not yet know how hard (or not) Journar will be. She does however plan to meet him, I know plans do not always go to the way the should in terms of time due to other things; but it does seem that she has this in mind. I think I read somewhere he reads Lit so if he disagreed with her on this I am sure he would say so.

In this thread boobsqueezer is talking about never, ever meeting them. I really struggle with the idea that a sub would want that long term. FF is in an online as well as a marriage so she has both things in her life to help fulfil her, but the subs boobsqueezer is hypothetically discussing will not be in that situation either.

My comments were not aimed at online relationships which have a goal of meeting but those which seem to be in a more fantasy realm.
I was in an online relationship with someone from here when I first joined Lit. He only lived two hours away but did not ever want to meet. To me, it was a relationship that had nowhere to go apart from fantasy land.

I hope that cleared up any feeling that I have not listened, I have to some of you; but the majority just seem to be in a more fantasy land.

CutieMouse said:

I've been in a long distance relationship which involves tasks, discipline, etc- it can be done. However, I find it a rather lonely exercise; thus, my comment about being doubtful it is very fulfilling.

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For me it's better than sitting around waiting until the times we can be together. If we lived in this ideal world that many here seem to and could drop everything to be together, we would. Unfortunately, we have other priorities at the moment and it will be awhile before we can be together on a permanent basis. So in our absense we do the tasks, the discipline, the control, etc, as well as we can. My Owners imagination is wonderful and extensive...she finds some truly interesting ways to have me display my submission.

I was careless with an expectation she has of me recently and was punished for it. I have marks on my thighs. I cried. Her words of forgiveness comforted me afterwards. She has it all on video. I doubt I'll make that mistake again as I don't want to repeat that punishment or dissappoint her with my carelessness again. It doesn't matter that we are a few states away...if I had made the same mistake while at her home, it would have been handled the same way, although I probably would have cried even harder.

It is, actually, extremely fulfilling that someone enjoys me enough that they are willing to go that extra mile to keep our relationship active and growing through hardships and distance. My lonliest times are when we are NOT in some way expressing our roles to each other despite the distance.

I'll never claim it is as wonderful as when we are together, as in my opinion it would be foolish to claim such a thing (or the product of a fantasy) but in my opinion not taking advantage of the opportunities we have would be a shame and a disgrace to our relationship.

There are always comments about how easy it would be to lie...I can't even fathom why someone would want to do that, any more than they can seem to fathom why I don't even consider it an option. Actually, nothing puts my submission to the test more than carrying out orders that I have no desire to do, regardless if she is there or not. What I get from doing them anyhow despite my wish not to is also very fulfilling. Isn't pleasing your dominant and the challenge of expressing your submission a common goal in relationships, regardless of distance?

Sometimes people ask me why I don't find someone closer to home. My answer to that is simple...I truly love the person I am with and a few hardships and a bit of waiting is a poor excuse to walk away from something that special.

I wish it were different and someday it will be. Until then, I'll take what I can get instead of turning my nose up on valid opportunities because they work for us.

shy, you asked how one could cane themselves? Rather simple. Pick up cane, apply to areas that are withen your reach with as much force and accuracy as you can muster, repeat. I've left marks on myself that are rather impressive, and the challenge is indeed fulfilling for me. Would I rather her be doing it? Fuck yeah. And she does too, often and hard when we are together as it is her favourite way of making me scream.

It's not for everyone, but don't doubt that it can work and work well. If it isn't for you, simply don't do it. Why the need to understand something you have no interest in doing anyhow? All you end up doing is sounding like a snob. (not directed at shy, that comment was intended in "general")

Sigh...I'm just tired of the attitudes people. Distance does have merit. Punishment has a place in some people's relationships. Your way is not the only way, and I wonder sometimes if some of you really realize how much that "holier than thou" attitude that was discussed in another thread recently is displayed in your answers. Saying things to the effect of "I'm not knocking it" when your attitude and words display a very different attitude doesn't make it sound any less disrespectful or hurtful to those of us that lead a different kind of life than you do. I'm not picking on you here shy as I usually find you to be a very respectful person, I just find this particular attitude to be abundant on this forum (and many others) and I find it very hard to deal with and unecessary to boot. I don't think people even realize that is how they come across sometimes. Hell, I'm sure I even do. In fact I know I do. I try to be as aware of that as I can, as it really isn't an attractive attitude in anyone.

All that being said. No, 'boob suspension' is not a very bright idea. There are many limits to distance domination....my advice to the original poster would be to respect those limits and find other more sensible ways to get your kicks.

shy slave said:

I am sorry seri.

I have read your journals and they make sense to me, I do understand how you can do this and the captains wench because you are so clear about the details. But for the most part I can't help but think a great many subs would be like me and lie.

Now I don't want to get off track, lies are not good in a relationship so therefore it would not work as a relationship.

I know you see Dawnie and therefore not all of your relationship is online. Captains wench is not able to see Journar yet, so to me, she was a better example to use. You know how much it hurts when Dawnie uses you, Captains wench does not yet know how hard (or not) Journar will be. She does however plan to meet him, I know plans do not always go to the way the should in terms of time due to other things; but it does seem that she has this in mind. I think I read somewhere he reads Lit so if he disagreed with her on this I am sure he would say so.

In this thread boobsqueezer is talking about never, ever meeting them. I really struggle with the idea that a sub would want that long term. FF is in an online as well as a marriage so she has both things in her life to help fulfil her, but the subs boobsqueezer is hypothetically discussing will not be in that situation either.

My comments were not aimed at online relationships which have a goal of meeting but those which seem to be in a more fantasy realm.
I was in an online relationship with someone from here when I first joined Lit. He only lived two hours away but did not ever want to meet. To me, it was a relationship that had nowhere to go apart from fantasy land.

I hope that cleared up any feeling that I have not listened, I have to some of you; but the majority just seem to be in a more fantasy land.

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Thanks for saying so shy, and I know you well enough to know you did not intend to "hurt" those of us that do this successfully...I agree that there is MUCH fantasy out there, much more so than there seems to be validity, but...it's still hard to hear negativity towards something that I live every day.

I have to confess I hardly even read the original posters thread and was reacting more to the generalized feeling I got from some of the comments. My mistake....that wasn't a very bright thing to do and my reaction was likely not called for. I apologize too.

"Boob suspension" is done by professional models and riggers whose jobs it is to do nothing but tie people for 8 hours a day and best left to those people.[/QUOTE] -->It was for this comment that I said that I didnt intend to suspend and leave aside for hours at a stretch!
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Netzach said:

Dude, you may be in a medical field but I have done over 100 bondage full suspensions with people who survived the experience. That's not a ton, but it's 100 more than you, it appears. I was taught by people who have done THOUSANDS such suspensions, and none of them admitted to having done all weight taken by-the-boobs.

If you mean just tying up a pair of boobs and yanking the rope that's one thing, (and it still has plenty of risks, maybe you should look up some of the possible links between internal scarring and breast cancer incidences?) when you say suspension I'm assuming you are talking about someone hanging from her boobs.

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NO NO NO

Netzach said:

PERMANENT nerve damage, so that a person loses all use of a limb can happen in under a minute. Duration has nothing to do with anything. If you don't believe me, I recommend you practise suspension by your own testicles. Just for, you know, a minute or so.

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Well, I am aware of all these. I was just asking about its conduction MASTER IN ABSENTIA and not exactly whether a pulley is used to haul a lady up suspended by breasts! Suspension is NOT the right word but I do NOT have another word for 'breast-supported-at-a-height-with-slave-standing-on-tip-toes'. I am sorry for the 'word-gap'.

The safety issues and how it is to be done and how NOT to be done by the master (in this presence) is not what I intended to ask. but whether this has any place or if anybody can think of these as a part of the Distant Domination Scenario!


@Netzach -> Some truth about this concept of Breast Suspension which might NOT have been know to some have been brought out. But, I am well aware of these already. I am also aware of the safety issues and methodologies concerned. "you-do-not-know-anything-i-know-everything" is NOT what I meant when I said I am in medical field! I respect your experience and I would expect the same respect for my professional knowledge.I am NOT challenging anybody to a wordy duel! Thanks for adding information to the thread and for your critical views.

serijules I love your passion, and I don't think I could say it any better.

I made a comment to my mom one day, about a new rule that was added two months ago to help me curb some of my bad eating habbits. I had mentioned that some one at work asked me why I don't just lie about eating the things that I'm not allowd to, he would never know. I confessed that until that moment I had never even thought of lieing as an option. Not once did it cross my mind in the week's time it took for some one to realize and ask me why I wasn't eating fries anymore. My mother said "of course you didn't. You never have thought of lieing as an option, you're a good girl". We talked about it further and even as a teenager when I did something that I knew I wasn't suposed to do, I didn't even attempt to hide it, I would report it to my mother or step father as soon as I got home and faced my punishment. It never even crossed my mind that I could get away with something by simply not telling them. So why do I admit to things when I do something wrong, because it is expected; I don't know how else to put it.

And yes, I have hurt myself, even worse than any one else (so far) has done to me. I have been pushed to levels that no one else has taken me to, and all thru IM and web cam. I've been in tears begging for the pain to stop. The one time I've felt my safe word on my lips was a moment when my tormentor was thousands of miles away. I do it because it pleases him for me to, and pleasing him makes me happy. I know that in a perfect world he would do these things himself, but for now he has to use my hands to do these things to me.

That's really the best way I can discribe it. I really don't think of it as me hurting myself, he's the one administering the punishment, or tourture, he's just using my body to do so.

And like serijules said, I do find fulfillment in this. If you ask my friends and family they will tell you they haven't seen me this happy since I first dated my ex, and maybe not even then. Hearing him on the phone, or reading the text saying "love ya" gives me the same butterflies as if some one said it to my face. Seeing him pop on yahoo is just like seeing some one walk thru the door. I won't say that there aren't times I feel lonesome. With my haphazard work schedule and a 5 hour time difference there are some times I don't get any time "with" him for a day or two. And God save me when his net is acting up (man is that murder on my text messaging). But we do what we must until we can spend face to face time together.

It really does make me feel special to know there's some one out there that loves me enough to work thru the difficulties of being an ocean apart to make things work. Yes there are plans to meet, but they are far off (well I think they're far he says 7 months is not that far away *giggles*) and still shakey at best. And I don't think that I would be as dedicated to some one who I didn't think there was at least a slight posibility of a relationship offline with. So maybe that's the real difference as it seems (at least with the people I've talked to) that online relationships are viewed more as fantasy and games than emotional states.

Now I wouldn't sujest that something like "boob suspention" is a good idea to try with some one you are not in personal appearance with, tho like was said even with it it's still an iffy subject, but inflicting pain and even the kind of pain that will leave bruses for the better part of a week is very much posible, but not something everyone is willing to do, and I'd imagin would be even harder to find some one willing to go to those lengths for some one who never wishes for more than something online.

Distance Domination - Support Thread

I just have started a support thread for the people currently in Distance Domination:
Distance Domination- Support thread

Regards,
Boobsqueeezer
Online Master from Orient (India)

boobsqueezer, I cannot imagine how difficult your situation is - I know that many countries, families, etc. are not as lenient as we are in the west and I understand why you need to keep your relationships online only.

I'm sorry, but had to chime in as your initial post has been bothering me all day... I know that you've corrected your intent in your original post regarding boob suspension, but it still worries me, especially because it sounds like you have never had the opportunity for RL interaction and the women you are establishing relationships are very inexperienced. If this is the case, you have never actually been in a situation to physically see how a sub might react to some of the things that you are suggesting. You are also then, because of the distances with which you are forced to deal, not in the best position to protect her. You also have no way to know how a sub might be interpreting what you are writing - there is nothing in your initial post that indicated to me that you meant anything other than what Netzach interpreted you to mean.

It also seems that you have limited community. Am wondering if you have limited access to books also because for me, it's imperative that if I would take the responsibility of Topping or being a Dom/me, I need to have a clear sense of what I am asking, when I'm pushing the boundaries of safety, how a bottom/sub might respond to and perhaps misinterpret my commands... As I am sure you know since you work in the medical field (I do also), even simple bondage can cause death if done incorrectly or for too long. And sometimes subs can sink so deeply into sub space that they cannot speak for themselves or even recognize a truly dangerous situation - this could be a difficulty for someone who has a "substitute Top" with them.

Knowledge is clearly key and often real experience is crucial to that knowledge, particularly when we are "skirting the edge" as you seem to be. For instance, I love the idea of play piercing but will not do it until I take a hands-on class because of potential complications... I always ask myself if I would submit to what I am asking my bottom to do when I Top. There are a number of Doms here who will use a toy on themselves before they ever use it on someone else so as to understand what it feels like. You very well might not have a submissive bone in your body, in which case this idea may seem absurd. Still, as one of my mentors has stated, a Top who has not experienced what s/he requires of her sub is to be suspect...

I know I'm probably coming across as lecturing, and if so I apologize, but I cannot figure out another way to write it.

Good luck in your journey.
Neon

I have seen/ done painful things for people in real life (profession) as well as in a BDSM scenario....As a medico at times we are forced to do something for the good of the patient....even if it indeed is painful coercing them and sort of training them and when needed with some force. And to know about what kind of dominant role I played in 'alternatie lifestyle' ....read below in the link to my personal ad thread below

READ MORE TO KNOW ME MORE HERE<--click here
(I put this there since it would appear like a personal ad! I just didnt want to set a bad precedence!.

Have you read it ? I hope that might give a fair idea about what I am but naturally I cannot be posting everything about myself there... I am NOT writing an autobiography but I just wrote what I felt might answer few Qs in your minds. More asked I would update it more! Thanks again for raising some Qs that I can answer and so express/reveal a bit more of myself!

If my post let you "assume" something about "boob suspension" I am sorry for that, because I probably projected as if I were a pervert talking straight after watching some 'mock snuff clip' from internet! This, I am NOT! I know what I can do. The discussion is clear in the fact that subs/slaves are hesitant to explore the extremes, Master in absentia. I completely agree and recognise, the reason, primely the safety involved. Just as it is common for all Masters/Doms and slaves/subs that age is just a number, I firmly believe that the same can be said about distance...for sincere and dedicated Master-sub, distance is just physical and it is something that can be fathomed....

I repeat again, I am NOT the one who is seeking to just play, and that is why I wish to be frank and open about my views/ways. And yes, there is a possible culture/perspective gap between us since i am from esoteric India, the land of tantric sex and mysticism. So, there will possibly some difference when you view Master/sub relation in a physical sense alone! It is a spiritual excercise for those who understand this.....

Again I am just offering the tip of the iceberg... of what is there in my mind. And I do appreciate all of your views and perspectives since it gives me more insight into what a sub might actually think when I take this approach and talk of a mental/distance domination and servitude which might appear funny and ridiculous to them. But, this is what I am now, and I am still in search of my ideal sub/slave to serve me.


Regards,
Boobsqueezer
Online Master of Orient East (India)

boobsqueeezer said:

And yes, there is a possible culture/perspective gap between us since i am from esoteric India, the land of tantric sex and mysticism. So, there will possibly some difference when you view Master/sub relation in a physical sense alone! It is a spiritual excercise for those who understand this.....

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I'm sorry but isn't this just a bit pretentious? How could you possibly know how anyone of us views our BDSM play in terms of our spirituality? Also, I have Indian friends, went to a college as an undergraduate that required a year of study in a non-Western country for graduation and had a major program in India (no, I went to Japan), and they would rail against the stereotypes you're promoting in an attempt to attract a sub...

OK, breath easy...

neonflux said:

I'm sorry but isn't this just a bit pretentious? How could you possibly know how anyone of us views our BDSM play in terms of our spirituality? Also, I have Indian friends, went to a college as an undergraduate that required a year of study in a non-Western country for graduation and had a major program in India (no, I went to Japan), and they would rail against the stereotypes you're promoting in an attempt to attract a sub...

OK, breath easy...

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I am glad you also read his statement as pretentious.

There is more than one way to view Spirituality, just as has been told to me in this thread, that there is more than one way of Domination (I think I knew that though ).

Ok, I need to breath and take a step back from reading peoples posts that have a very real ring of bullshit to me.

shy slave said:

Ok, I need to breath and take a step back from reading peoples posts that have a very real ring of bullshit to me.

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xoxo

Well Put Neon

neonflux said:

I You also have no way to know how a sub might be interpreting what you are writing - there is nothing in your initial post that indicated to me that you meant anything other than what Netzach interpreted you to mean.

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If a web cam is used it is possible to give more accurate instructions,but

neonflux said:

I always ask myself if I would submit to what I am asking my bottom to do when I Top. There are a number of Doms here who will use a toy on themselves before they ever use it on someone else so as to understand what it feels like. You very well might not have a submissive bone in your body, in which case this idea may seem absurd. Still, as one of my mentors has stated, a Top who has not experienced what s/he requires of her sub is to be suspect...


Neon

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How can a boobless male know what breast suspension could do to the female. There is one BDSM site that shows an EE or bigger breast with a meat skewer through it! Not at all safe in my book even in RL.

I can see the day when the authorities ask for someone to be extradited because a remote sub followed orders and died!

boobsqueeezer said:

"Boob suspension" is done by professional models and riggers whose jobs it is to do nothing but tie people for 8 hours a day and best left to those people.

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NO NO NO



Well, I am aware of all these. I was just asking about its conduction MASTER IN ABSENTIA and not exactly whether a pulley is used to haul a lady up suspended by breasts! Suspension is NOT the right word but I do NOT have another word for 'breast-supported-at-a-height-with-slave-standing-on-tip-toes'. I am sorry for the 'word-gap'.

The safety issues and how it is to be done and how NOT to be done by the master (in this presence) is not what I intended to ask. but whether this has any place or if anybody can think of these as a part of the Distant Domination Scenario!


@Netzach -> Some truth about this concept of Breast Suspension which might NOT have been know to some have been brought out. But, I am well aware of these already. I am also aware of the safety issues and methodologies concerned. "you-do-not-know-anything-i-know-everything" is NOT what I meant when I said I am in medical field! I respect your experience and I would expect the same respect for my professional knowledge.I am NOT challenging anybody to a wordy duel! Thanks for adding information to the thread and for your critical views.[/QUOTE]


Ok, I have a very specific idea of "suspension" what you're talking about is "standing bondage" or "partial suspension"

It's always important to plan out what will happen when someone in standing bondage falls. It could happen, so you have to gauge the likelihood and risks for yourself. Self-bondage has certain risks and considerations (and that's basically what a distance sub would be doing if not supervised by another person) which bondage done by you doesn't have -- suspension ALWAYS has a whole slough of other risks and considerations.


That said, my slave lives on the coast about 1500 miles from me, so there are a lot of things we do over a distance, but he is someone I also get to see regularly if not often so our major play happens when we are together.

RonClarkeson said:

How can a boobless male know what breast suspension could do to the female. There is one BDSM site that shows an EE or bigger breast with a meat skewer through it! Not at all safe in my book even in RL.

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Eh, read, self-educate, talk to a lot of boobed females.

I prefer to undergo the things I would inflict, but I don't have balls and I'm not as much an appreciator of pain as those I inflict on. I still run a reasonably safe and fun show on a pair of nuts.