I am a new slave and being trained by Master. One thing he is teaching me is auto submission, learning to obey his commands instantly, without thought for consequences. Does anyone else have experience in this? I did very well with my commands last night but I am struggling.
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that kinda thing comes with time and the feeling of security which you should alreay have if you are already in a relationship with him.slavewife said:LOL
The only thing I drive is my Master up the wall.
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nit pick
obey his commands instantly,--------
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please define........instantly?
if a Ms thinks i am going to hop up and go running like a wild man....no.
if this means i do something as soon as i can get to it.....y'ok.
i am not, going to, jump up like some 2 year old. i will slowly get up and go do whatever, sure. i am nit picking. but instantly? sounds like He wants a sub like a microwave. and even THAT takes time.
weird to me.
the wolf.
slavewife said:
obey his commands instantly,--------
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please define........instantly?
if a Ms thinks i am going to hop up and go running like a wild man....no.
if this means i do something as soon as i can get to it.....y'ok.
i am not, going to, jump up like some 2 year old. i will slowly get up and go do whatever, sure. i am nit picking. but instantly? sounds like He wants a sub like a microwave. and even THAT takes time.
weird to me.
the wolf.
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I think as you say you have only been doing this M/s and D/s thing for a week, one of the first lessons perhaps you are learning is that despite it looking all so glamourous and fun, naughty and kinky in all those magazines and sites, the reality is not something that happens overnight, nor do many reach the point you say you are attempting as in obedience without question or hesitation. Of course it is a popular image in porn and fantasies but reality bites if you know what I mean.
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Better yet, that first time you know/hear "hell no!" get stifled, followed by that internal struggle you can see kicking and elbowing the walls of the exterior, ending with "Yes, (whatever the fuck they call you)," and compliance.Netzach said:
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I struggle with my Master's commands sometimes too, not because I don't trust him or want to please him, but just because sometimes there are just others things I would rather be doing.
For example, when my favorite tv show is on, or I am in the middle of page in a book I am reading and he says, go to the kitchen and fix me a glass of ice water,( and this did happen the other night and I jsut looked at one of the kids who were already in the kitchen and said bring your dad a glass of water please he looked at me and said you know I love you don't you which is key phase for us I knew I had messed up but I kept doing what I was doing)
Later that same night he told me he wanted me to do something specific before he got home the next day I said ok I'll have it done, next day he came home it wasn't done, he gave me another chance it still wan't done third day I got someone to help me do it, he knew I had gotten help, and it still wasn't half done. I learned a valueable lesson when he punished me for it and yes I knew the punishment was coming way before it did, but I won't ignore him again, or if I do at least I'll think about it first.
I think we all struggle with orders or cammands sometimes because we are after all human and have things we would rather be doing sometimes, or maybe sometimes we just want the punishment or think we do anyway depending on what the punishment is, or maybe thats just my 2 cents.
*thinking dang maybe I got sidetracked lol*
For example, when my favorite tv show is on, or I am in the middle of page in a book I am reading and he says, go to the kitchen and fix me a glass of ice water,( and this did happen the other night and I jsut looked at one of the kids who were already in the kitchen and said bring your dad a glass of water please he looked at me and said you know I love you don't you which is key phase for us I knew I had messed up but I kept doing what I was doing)
Later that same night he told me he wanted me to do something specific before he got home the next day I said ok I'll have it done, next day he came home it wasn't done, he gave me another chance it still wan't done third day I got someone to help me do it, he knew I had gotten help, and it still wasn't half done. I learned a valueable lesson when he punished me for it and yes I knew the punishment was coming way before it did, but I won't ignore him again, or if I do at least I'll think about it first.
I think we all struggle with orders or cammands sometimes because we are after all human and have things we would rather be doing sometimes, or maybe sometimes we just want the punishment or think we do anyway depending on what the punishment is, or maybe thats just my 2 cents.
*thinking dang maybe I got sidetracked lol*
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Fyi
"Run-on sentence" - An ungrammatical sentence in which two or more independent clauses are conjoined without a conjunction.
swt_babygirl said:
"Run-on sentence" - An ungrammatical sentence in which two or more independent clauses are conjoined without a conjunction.
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Killishandra said:
For a second there you sounded just like MSO, he is always correcting my grammer and spelling, drives me nuts.
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swt_babygirl said:
I'm a bit of a spelling/grammar nazi, but I know not everyone is.
I'll try not to poke fun atcha anymore.
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Kajira Callista said:
I'm a frequent lurker there.
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slavewife said:
"That is nonsense up with which I shall not put."
-Winston Churchill
Not everyone would find it as ironic as you do.
On the other hand, run-on sentences are always a breach of grammatical etiquette.
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I think Catalina is right on the mark. Submission is not something that can be learned instantly. I don't think there's any such thing as "auto submission" - at least not in a way that can be taught as such. There may be some people who simply do not question, but they are in the minority. To be learning something so powerful and profound so early in a relationship and in the lifestyle is stretching things a bit. I think the key phrase you used was "without thought for consequences." There's no such thing. You will think of the consequences. You may immediately discard them or choose to ignore them, but you will think of them. Perhaps even as you go to obey the command, you will think of them. But neither should all commands be followed without hesitation. Slicing open your palm because you were told to is not submission, instead it shows a lack of self-concern or self-preservation.
Now, perhaps during an individual scene you could obey some commands immediately. "Get down on your knees" is probably one. "Spread your legs for me" is probably another, though you might be thinking of how raw and used you already feel and the consequences (more painful friction) are definitely going to pop into your mind in that case. "Bring me the whip and bend over" is a pretty easy thing to do, mostly because the result is probably the same whether you do it or not - it's just a matter of when and how you experience the consequences.
Remember that at such an early stage in your relationship, these commands you are following so well are probably things you already want to do anyway. Even with an established contract, safeword, checklist, limits, etc., the two of you are still feeling each other out. You aren't likely to get any truly challenging commands for a while; these need to be worked up to, and that's as it should be.
Now, perhaps during an individual scene you could obey some commands immediately. "Get down on your knees" is probably one. "Spread your legs for me" is probably another, though you might be thinking of how raw and used you already feel and the consequences (more painful friction) are definitely going to pop into your mind in that case. "Bring me the whip and bend over" is a pretty easy thing to do, mostly because the result is probably the same whether you do it or not - it's just a matter of when and how you experience the consequences.
Remember that at such an early stage in your relationship, these commands you are following so well are probably things you already want to do anyway. Even with an established contract, safeword, checklist, limits, etc., the two of you are still feeling each other out. You aren't likely to get any truly challenging commands for a while; these need to be worked up to, and that's as it should be.
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Etoile said:
Perfectly said Etoile. For those of us who have been working at it for quite awhile it becomes obvious, though often not welcomed, to realise that even the things we agreed to initially in the first rush and thrill of the experience, can become a challenge later when we begin to live the submission fully and understand in our soul what it actually means. It is not about just acting out by physically appearing to do and role playing the fantasy, it is about submitting mentally as well as physically. Ther example of cutting your palm open because you are ordered to can also if complied to show a lack of regard and care for the Master's property, and can be a test to see if you truly understand you no longer own yourself but are owned and as such are expected to care for that property. Then just when you think things are getting better, going smooth, the good Dominant's turn up the heat by finding something new to challenge you with which does not play into your fantasies or answer your wish list....then you find out if you can really submit or not.
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As an added note slavewife, most subs/slaves (or Dominant's for that matter) do not use another's name on their site and in their pics unless they have prior permission...people here are very careful to protect and respect the rights and privacy of all who come here in trust.....you have seriously breached that trust and respect and shown you are all many have begun to suspect.
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Are you totally insane??? LMAO
Are you refering to me having the pic on my site with me holding the sign "Catalina (heart) slavewife"?
How many Catalinas are there in the world?
You're nuts. I'm sorry but I've tried to be nice and reasonable but I can honestly say, without the merest shadow of a doubt, you have a screw lose. LOL
I post a pic on my site and this is breaking some trust and makes me all the things you've accused me of being?
Get real!
You have problems, sweetheart, big problems and I seem to be the scapegoat for them. If you want me to throw you a few bucks for analysis, just ask, it'll make my life a lot easier.
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slavewife said:Are you totally insane??? LMAO
Are you refering to me having the pic on my site with me holding the sign "Catalina (heart) slavewife"?
How many Catalinas are there in the world?
You're nuts. I'm sorry but I've tried to be nice and reasonable but I can honestly say, without the merest shadow of a doubt, you have a screw lose. LOL
I post a pic on my site and this is breaking some trust and makes me all the things you've accused me of being?
Get real!
You have problems, sweetheart, big problems and I seem to be the scapegoat for them. If you want me to throw you a few bucks for analysis, just ask, it'll make my life a lot easier.
sw
Wow, you sure are bitchy. Catalina is infinitely cooler than you, so you should probably back off.
Netzach said:
I've only been scening for about a month, and this reaction has totally taken me off guard. We're both learning my limits while he's pushing me beyond my comfort zones. My reaction is often "hell no" in my head, and I know he is watching my internal struggle as I slowly cave in to the command. Eventually I'm sure there will be consequences for hesitating, stomping my feet, and sometimes verbally refusing before I give in. But right now I think he's enjoying the process of watching me push through it to give him what he wants. (I know I am!)
