sex as pain

this is not something i recall seeing discussed here, but if i have missed it, please feel free to point me in the right direction...

...i am speaking of intentionally painful sex. where the pain is in the sexual activity itself, without the use of fists, floggers, whips, canes, etc. for instance my Master will often push a cotton hand towel as far into my pussy as it will go before vaginal intercourse, so that i will be completely dry and the sex will be very painful for me. or he may force his cock far down my throat and fuck in and out until my throat is burning and raw and my jaw so sore i have difficulty closing my mouth. He might use me anally without bothering to use any lubrication. just sweet little things like that, to hurt me, to abuse my body, to exert his power over me, or simply to tickle him. you know how those Doms can be.

so what are some of the ways you all engage in painful sex?

Yes to all of the above, except that he's never done anything to dry me out internally when I already am--usually penetration is hard enough on the surface level. But I will bring that idea up. Other than that...I'm built quite shallowly, and my cervix will attest to the fact that simple deep thrusting is pretty damn agonizing. I can't even imagine what it would be like to take a huge cock.

Often he will fuck me and then insert a couple of fingers alongside his cock, stretching me much more than could be enjoyable. Any sort of double penetration is terrible in the same way.

I'm usually quite lucky to get any sort of preparation before anal sex--I don't often enjoy it even when all the conditions are right, so when he wants to do it, it's usually because he knows it will hurt me; he then goes on to make that pain to the extent he craves.

I wonder, osg, do you do fisting? Does that play into this thread at all, or are you talking about more penis-in-orifice pain?

Sometimes I feel as a grandpapa on the site and this is one of those occasions, yes I am going to bore everyone again with a one of my essays.

First thing I want to mention is safe sex, I hope everyone is using condoms? Having intercourse described as in the posts by Quint and osg increases the chance of AIDS and a number of other STD’s through skin breakage and possible bleeding. If you are having this kind of sex only with your regular partner please make sure he only has unprotected sex with you, or if you interact sexually with others, leave it a few days for the tears which will occur to heal in case of condom breakage or precum on exploratory fingers.

I and Catalina have regular ‘painful’ sex although never tried the towel trick, first time I have ever heard of it. I also have some questions about that technique and would love to hear more about it, as I always want to learn. First how do you get a towel up a pussy, how do you get it to fit?

The second thing that really is a puzzling to me is how to fuck a pussy that is so dry. I am not circumcised and that might have something to do with it but it must be extremely painful not only for the female (which is of course perfectly fine) but also for the male. I am a sadist not a masochist; I would expect friction burns on my cock, not to mention missing skin.

I have the same problem with the anal sex, how do you get it to fit (the dick I mean) for crying out load, is it not a bit too tight without lubrication of some type, spit, pussy juice, gel? Might also have to do with circumcision or size I suppose.

About fisting (anally and vaginally), we have both enjoyed it for many years and it is something we still do, but without lubricant that fist just will not go in .


Francisco.

Quint, fisting is not something i had in mind while creating this thread, i was thinking more of cock-induced torture, but yes i suppose fisting would qualify if it's an unpleasant thing for the fistee. i have been fisted on occasion...twice it was exquisitely, deliciously pleasurable...and every other time, it has been both horrendously painful, slow, and often not physically possible. i think for me i have to be in a certain kind of mood in order to take fisting well...(so far that mood has been stone cold drunk and unaware of what was happening). when i'm sober, focused, fully conscious....it's just not a very delightful thing.

Francisco, i understand your need/desire to preach about safe(r) sexual practices. in the case of my Master and i, while we both are fully aware of the various risks of the things we do together and with others, certain risky things will be done, simply because that is what Daddy desires, and that is that.

as for the towel thing, he does not force the entire towel inside of me. often what he will do is push the towel in just a bit with his finger, then continue to push it in as far as he can with his cock. then he will remove the towel and immediately penetrate me again, and take his pleasure with me as he wills. it does not hurt him, but he is circumcised. i am sure it would not be so pleasant for a man who is uncut. it is not easy for Daddy to fully penetrate me vaginally or anally without any lubrication, but i think that is part of the pleasure in it for him...he must use a great deal of force and pressure, not hold anything back, really hurt me. and i just must simply take it, without complaint. Daddy has experienced some minor friction burn soreness at times from using me anally unlubricated, but nothing a gentle massage cannot cure.

have never been fisted without lube, don't think that would be physically possible, although in my experience the lubrication in fisting is not nearly as important as simply being relaxed. all the lubrication in the world will not help a tense, nervous, scared little pussy open up.

Penetration of dry person: a little lube on the head of the dick (or spit) for a starter and a hard shove will usually do it.

Pain sex is where it's at. "OH No, OW, NO OW SHIT Oo" is so much hotter than give it to me baby ooh yeah yeah thats it"

I have read that in Japan it's quite common for women to use douches with either lemon juice or alum to dry themselves up and tighten up internally so the men can enjoy the feeling of being with a virgin
Only once did I see the issue adressed for the man's comfort and it basically said he would have to endure a little sting for the pleasue

I hadn't heard of the towel idea either, but I like it. I have had panties shoved up my cunt as far as they'll go, but that's not usually very big.

I enjoy pain in sex, but obviously for me it isn't always about cock-induced torture. Fisting is a big part of my sexual repetoire, mostly vaginal fisting with my girlfriend. Sometimes I beg Daddy for it, because eir hands are bigger and I'm not able to take em as easily (my girlfriend has tiny hands). Sometimes Daddy also tries to fist me anally - usually without lube, actually - although we've never actually succeeded in that (usually because e makes me cum first!).

OSG, you always start such great topics!

I beg to differ Rosco. I rather love hearing "Fuck me Daddy, fuck me harder!"

Though, there's something about being fellated by one in obvious discomfort, gagging, slurping, drooling...face-fucking... that I love.

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mmmm

So far, I haven't experienced or had scooter experience painful sex. Introducing pain during orgasm is something we have done to intensify the orgasm i.e. removing nipple clips briskly at just the right moment.

I think that for me, thus far, teh actual sex is almost a culmination of everything else.

Of course, this could change............

Netzach said:

I beg to differ Rosco. I rather love hearing "Fuck me Daddy, fuck me harder!"

Though, there's something about being fellated by one in obvious discomfort, gagging, slurping, drooling...face-fucking... that I love.

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Rough skull-fucking, got to love it!
There're a certain genre of current adult films that feature this and it's always entertaining

I have one clip of a young lady being ganged by 5 men
At one point, she's straddling one guy vaginally while another guy's in her ass and one of the men says "Gonna make her air-tight!"
He then slides his cock all the way down her throat and then pinches her nose shut
The other 2 guys have her arms pinned and he holds her till she starts to really struggle
Then he slides out while still holding her nose...she gags a little and has to gasp for breath...and then god damn if she doesn't GIGGLE and say "Do it again"
If she's acting, she's REALLY good at it LOL


Now, on a seperate topic, would any of you consider tickling a bound person during sex to the point where it is physically painful (cramping muscles all over, uncontrolled urination, difficulty breathing, etc) as painful sex in the context of this thread?

James G 5 said:

Now, on a seperate topic, would any of you consider tickling a bound person during sex to the point where it is physically painful (cramping muscles all over, uncontrolled urination, difficulty breathing, etc) as painful sex in the context of this thread?

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For me, any kind of tickling would be torture, and my partners all know it. I gave a girl a split lip once because I thought she was going to tickle me...it's just my instinctive reaction to being tickled. I have trained myself out of punching the people I love if they make like they're going to tickle me, but it's still a struggle for me. And yet I don't think I would consider it painful if Daddy were to do it...just really really upsetting. It would be mentally torturous, because Daddy knows I hate it, but I don't think it would cause physical pain.

Etoile said:

For me, any kind of tickling would be torture, and my partners all know it. I gave a girl a split lip once because I thought she was going to tickle me...it's just my instinctive reaction to being tickled. I have trained myself out of punching the people I love if they make like they're going to tickle me, but it's still a struggle for me. And yet I don't think I would consider it painful if Daddy were to do it...just really really upsetting. It would be mentally torturous, because Daddy knows I hate it, but I don't think it would cause physical pain.

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I am thinking of the time I was having sex with someone who was tied down & I started tickling her as she approached orgasm...she came hard, but from the laughter and additional muscle contractions she lost bladder control and had severe abdominal, vaginal, and leg muscle cramps
She's a mother and she compared the pain level of the cramping during orgasm to portions of labor

Anal sex without lube.

Extended vaginal sex where soreness becomes a factor.

She was not a partner of mine so I have no firsthand knowledge, but one woman told me very convincingly that she could be vaginally fisted without lube. She had not given birth to children and was petite in size/stature.

Mr Blonde said:

Anal sex without lube.

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my biggest fantasy lately. Someone described doing that to their sub to me recently and now i cant get it out of my head. And not just without lube, but suddenly, without warning, when im not expecting it. And fucked hard til he cums..hearing him enjoying it while im moaning in pain and begging him to stop. We havent done it yet but damn, i really want to

sigsauerprinces said:

my biggest fantasy lately. Someone described doing that to their sub to me recently and now i cant get it out of my head. And not just without lube, but suddenly, without warning, when im not expecting it. And fucked hard til he cums..hearing him enjoying it while im moaning in pain and begging him to stop. We havent done it yet but damn, i really want to

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Have done it a long time ago, but it needs to be preferrably a circumsized cock (mostly for their comfort as they can suffer damage to bleeding levels - internal and external), and someone slim dicked and extremely hard or it just ain't going to go no matter what force is applied, at least where I am concerned. The unexpected or forced can be extremely painful, depending on the person and timing. There is also another alternative which is to be experienced to be believed and that is a sudden deep anal fuck at the precise moment of release after a huge enema....adviseable to do this in a place where cleaning up afterward is very easy though, no carpets or antique velvet chaise. LOL.

Catalina

catalina_francisco said:

Have done it a long time ago, but it needs to be preferrably a circumsized cock (mostly for their comfort as they can suffer damage to bleeding levels - internal and external), and someone slim dicked and extremely hard or it just ain't going to go no matter what force is applied, at least where I am concerned. The unexpected or forced can be extremely painful, depending on the person and timing. There is also another alternative which is to be experienced to be believed and that is a sudden deep anal fuck at the precise moment of release after a huge enema....adviseable to do this in a place where cleaning up afterward is very easy though, no carpets or antique velvet chaise. LOL.

Catalina

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oh, i think pretty much any sized could do the deed Catalina, on any sized rectal cavity, for lack of a prettier term. sure, it may cause a heck of a lot of pain and a heck of a lot of damage, but it can happen. of course i'm totally against anything that could cause harm or discomfort to a Man, so i agree with you that the man should be circumcized before attempting dry anal penetration. as for cock size, my Master's cock is very thick, and just the kind of cock which i would always say before meeting him, that i would never EVER want up my bum. slim and streamlined has always been my preference for anal. but preferences are irrelevant when one becomes a slave, and Daddy wanted all holes usable, so anal was going to happen. dry anal happened just for his own personal kicks. i think the trick that first time was in me not knowing it was going to happen. He had told me to meditate, so i was in my position in the corner, on my knees, forehead on the floor, eyes closed and lost in my world of meditation. then i hear Daddy's voice behind me, telling me not to stop meditating, to just listen to him. He is lecturing me, training me, a common thing with us, and i am listening yet meditating as told. then all of a sudden, i feel an immense stretching, stretching, then a tearing and a sudden pop! as he forced himself inside of me anally. He managed to penetrate fully in one thrust...there is just no way on earth he could have accomplished that, so quickly especially, if i had known it was going to happen, if i had been tense and expectant. but i couldn't have had less of a clue. it was excruciatingly painful, yes, but the quickness of it provided a bit of relief.

btw, dry anal can provide it's own natural lube...if one is not squeamish about the color red.

Now I'm all flustered thinking about a male and female under my thumb.

His assignment, screw her ass. No lube.

She's whining and wailing and ripping he's straining and stretching and abrading and yelling, I'm just lightly perched on his back, leaning, feet on the floor... my lush ass getting a back and forth ride, as he screws...copious tears and drooling all around.

I might philosophically light a cigarette, and smile to myself a little crooked smile.

I want to be the fulcrum on which others fuck. The diabolical witch lady setting men on women like dogs on dogs.

Netzach said:

Now I'm all flustered thinking about a male and female under my thumb.

His assignment, screw her ass. No lube.

She's whining and wailing and ripping he's straining and stretching and abrading and yelling, I'm just lightly perched on his back, leaning, feet on the floor... my lush ass getting a back and forth ride, as he screws...copious tears and drooling all around.

I might philosophically light a cigarette, and smile to myself a little crooked smile.

I want to be the fulcrum on which others fuck. The diabolical witch lady setting men on women like dogs on dogs.

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Netzach, now that is just evil.

at the risk of sounding dumb, can i ask why it matters if he's circumcized or not? i would think that whatever damage is going to happen to a penis would happen whether it was circumzied or not. are you saying that its so dangerous for a non circumcized man to do it that you would strongly recommend against it?

sigsauerprinces said:

at the risk of sounding dumb, can i ask why it matters if he's circumcized or not? i would think that whatever damage is going to happen to a penis would happen whether it was circumzied or not. are you saying that its so dangerous for a non circumcized man to do it that you would strongly recommend against it?

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oh gosh it makes a huge difference. i think back to the difficulties i had trying to have "vanilla" anal sex (slow, gentle, lots of lube, etc.) with a partner....he had a great deal of foreskin, and the pulling was just too much for it to be barable for him. his skin actually did tear a little bit, and after that of course anal was out of the question with him! but then i'm thinking of sex without a barrier such as condoms. if an uncut man uses a condom, then possibly the risks of pain and damage are greatly reduced.

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oh, i think pretty much any sized could do the deed Catalina, on any sized rectal cavity, for lack of a prettier term. sure, it may cause a heck of a lot of pain and a heck of a lot of damage, but it can happen. of course i'm totally against anything that could cause harm or discomfort to a Man, so i agree with you that the man should be circumcized before attempting dry anal penetration. as for cock size, my Master's cock is very thick, and just the kind of cock which i would always say before meeting him, that i would never EVER want up my bum. slim and streamlined has always been my preference for anal. but preferences are irrelevant when one becomes a slave, and Daddy wanted all holes usable, so anal was going to happen. dry anal happened just for his own personal kicks. i think the trick that first time was in me not knowing it was going to happen. He had told me to meditate, so i was in my position in the corner, on my knees, forehead on the floor, eyes closed and lost in my world of meditation. then i hear Daddy's voice behind me, telling me not to stop meditating, to just listen to him. He is lecturing me, training me, a common thing with us, and i am listening yet meditating as told. then all of a sudden, i feel an immense stretching, stretching, then a tearing and a sudden pop! as he forced himself inside of me anally. He managed to penetrate fully in one thrust...there is just no way on earth he could have accomplished that, so quickly especially, if i had known it was going to happen, if i had been tense and expectant. but i couldn't have had less of a clue. it was excruciatingly painful, yes, but the quickness of it provided a bit of relief.

btw, dry anal can provide it's own natural lube...if one is not squeamish about the color red.

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I'm so happy to hear your experiences are different to mine, though I can't remember not ever enjoying it. You are right too, there is a natural lubricant in the anal passage but not blood as you refer to, and reliant on the physical condition of the person as to it's volume and texture.

Catalina

catalina_francisco said:

I'm so happy to hear your experiences are different to mine, though I can't remember not ever enjoying it. You are right too, there is a natural lubricant in the anal passage but not blood as you refer to, and reliant on the physical condition of the person as to it's volume and texture.

Catalina

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yes it's true there's a bit of natural moisture there, or can be, depending on various conditions. the first time i discovered that in myself, it was a shock to say the least ...but 'tis a good thing. for me that doesn't compare to the lubrication (and just plain cruelty) a bit of blood provides.

Mr Blonde said:

Anal sex without lube.

Extended vaginal sex where soreness becomes a factor.

She was not a partner of mine so I have no firsthand knowledge, but one woman told me very convincingly that she could be vaginally fisted without lube. She had not given birth to children and was petite in size/stature.

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My last subbie, who also had not given birth, could fully SELF fist with no lube
And she had reasonable sized hands for a woman
My hands are a BIT bigger & required some "help" but I imagine if we'd practiced enough & she'd been wet enough she might not've needed any

ownedsubgal said:

oh, i think pretty much any sized could do the deed Catalina, on any sized rectal cavity, for lack of a prettier term. sure, it may cause a heck of a lot of pain and a heck of a lot of damage, but it can happen. of course i'm totally against anything that could cause harm or discomfort to a Man, so i agree with you that the man should be circumcized before attempting dry anal penetration. as for cock size, my Master's cock is very thick, and just the kind of cock which i would always say before meeting him, that i would never EVER want up my bum. slim and streamlined has always been my preference for anal. but preferences are irrelevant when one becomes a slave, and Daddy wanted all holes usable, so anal was going to happen. dry anal happened just for his own personal kicks. i think the trick that first time was in me not knowing it was going to happen. He had told me to meditate, so i was in my position in the corner, on my knees, forehead on the floor, eyes closed and lost in my world of meditation. then i hear Daddy's voice behind me, telling me not to stop meditating, to just listen to him. He is lecturing me, training me, a common thing with us, and i am listening yet meditating as told. then all of a sudden, i feel an immense stretching, stretching, then a tearing and a sudden pop! as he forced himself inside of me anally. He managed to penetrate fully in one thrust...there is just no way on earth he could have accomplished that, so quickly especially, if i had known it was going to happen, if i had been tense and expectant. but i couldn't have had less of a clue. it was excruciatingly painful, yes, but the quickness of it provided a bit of relief.

btw, dry anal can provide it's own natural lube...if one is not squeamish about the color red.

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Oh my god, OSG. That post makes following Daddy's "no masturbating" rule really hard!