hello pain sluts

Once upon a time I had a much smaller interest in giving serious pain than I did in giving moderate pain....

BUT thank the lucky stars I graduated into the hot quirky steaming kalidascope of erotic pleasure I can only get from drawing screams from gagged mouths and tears of endurance from blindfolded eyes.

anyone interested in a conversation of pain and its merits...

Dom/me thoughts are also very important to this conversation

There is something intimate and binding in pain that cannot be acheived in any other way IMO. It is not for all, nor is it as simple as loving it from a receiving end.....sometimes I get to a point I hate it which then makes me love it all the more. It is something I crave to receive from him as much as he craves to deliver it, and something we have found neither of us can go long without indulging our perverted little hearts in. LOL.

Catalina

Well ... pain does have many merits ... says the masochist.

Tough to explain, but i will try.

When pain is administered in a controlled way, the effects are nothing short of a mental and emotional cleansing. The building of layered pain leaves little room to contemplate anything except the pain itself. Pain can remove all negative outside elements such as worries, fears, insecurities, stress, etc. When you are unable to speak because the pain has taken your words, you have moved beyond a state of outside awareness and into plane of sensory insulation. Take subspace - an emotional and mental withdrawing into oneself and add pain to that mixture. Without getting all mystical and whatnot, the heights reached are proportionate to having a life epiphany (i.e., you rocket up high enough that it feels like a religious experience).

The foregoing describes non-sexualized pain imo. There is always the delightful erotic pain where sexual stimulation is mixed heavily with pain. This is also a highly attractive venue of receiving pain. As a masochist, i think the perfect S/M cocktail consists of a heavy dose of pain and sexual teasing/release if allowed.

i don't really know. Pain clears the senses, provides relief from self-induced/outside pressures and is sexually arousing all by itself. Whatever pain is (for those who enjoy it) it certainly is very personal to the masochist. i find it is more often a need than a want in terms of pain. But that's me and how pain relates to me ... a masosub.

lara

catalina_francisco said:

There is something intimate and binding in pain that cannot be acheived in any other way IMO. It is not for all, nor is it as simple as loving it from a receiving end.....sometimes I get to a point I hate it which then makes me love it all the more. It is something I crave to receive from him as much as he craves to deliver it, and something we have found neither of us can go long without indulging our perverted little hearts in. LOL.

Catalina

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~~smile~~ I have been waiting for you! I began this thread from your 'pain slut' statement and expected you to be here for this interesting conversation.

If you were to describe the pain that becomes the over riding type at the end of a long session of whips, floggers and canes...would you experience it as burning...throbbing...itching...erotic..or?

welcome to this new discussion catalina

s'lara said:

Well ... pain does have many merits ... says the masochist.

Tough to explain, but i will try.

When pain is administered in a controlled way, the effects are nothing short of a mental and emotional cleansing. The building of layered pain leaves little room to contemplate anything except the pain itself. Pain can remove all negative outside elements such as worries, fears, insecurities, stress, etc. When you are unable to speak because the pain has taken your words, you have moved beyond a state of outside awareness and into plane of sensory insulation. Take subspace - an emotional and mental withdrawing into oneself and add pain to that mixture. Without getting all mystical and whatnot, the heights reached are proportionate to having a life epiphany (i.e., you rocket up high enough that it feels like a religious experience).

The foregoing describes non-sexualized pain imo. There is always the delightful erotic pain where sexual stimulation is mixed heavily with pain. This is also a highly attractive venue of receiving pain. As a masochist, i think the perfect S/M cocktail consists of a heavy dose of pain and sexual teasing/release if allowed.

i don't really know. Pain clears the senses, provides relief from self-induced/outside pressures and is sexually arousing all by itself. Whatever pain is (for those who enjoy it) it certainly is very personal to the masochist. i find it is more often a need than a want in terms of pain. But that's me and how pain relates to me ... a masosub.

lara

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Awesome discription of how you and administered pain fly and float from endurance to ecstacy and back again.

I also find Myself feeling as though I have entered another dimension when delivering pain is My main focus. Such a high that it takes Me hours to get My energy level back down. It does not lighten My mood but darkens it.

Thank you for adding this indepth look into your way lara

First post and introduction

Well...i was looking for an appropriate discussion to make my first post, and this seems to be a good one!
A short introduction...I am a married 40 year old male submissive. My name (jamie anne) is my pet/sissy name given to me by my Mistress/Wife years ago, and the name by which She usually adresses me in private. As intros are usually boring, i'll leave it at that for now.
Now...to try to describe my feelings in regards to pain. O/our BDSM preferences tend to lean toward pain/corporal punishment. In fact, my Wife considers Herself to be an "expert" in the use of the cane, and i of course consider myself to be quite accomplished at taking a caning. However, lest i sound too cocky or bold, i'll admit that i have a love/hate relationship with the cane. i fear the cane, and the pain that it brings when Mistress makes it clear She intends to use it in a no nonsense fashion. But...the submissive, masochist in me craves the cane...the pain, the submission, the surrender, the acceptance that i have no choice but to submit.
i find it to be erotic and stimulating, an incredible turn on as i assume the position on the spanking bench and wait as my Mistress secures my ankles and wrists and finally gags me in preparation for the beating to come!
My stimulation (and hard on) are however short lived as the cuts begin. The burning, fiery sensation as that hot rod scorches my ass makes me scream through the gag until my throat is scorched! Every great once in a while though, i am able to reach that "magical place" where i can accept, in fact invite the pain...that point at which i stick my ass out further welcoming and craving the next stroke. This is indeed a rare occassion, but so very wonderful when it does happen!
So...before i get too long winded here...yes pain in something i invite, perhaps not for it's own sake but for the submission that comes along with it...it is feared, dreaded, but somehow craved. i hope this all made some degree of sense!
jamie

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jamieanne63 said:

Well...i was looking for an appropriate discussion to make my first post, and this seems to be a good one!
A short introduction...I am a married 40 year old male submissive. My name (jamie anne) is my pet/sissy name given to me by my Mistress/Wife years ago, and the name by which She usually adresses me in private. As intros are usually boring, i'll leave it at that for now.
Now...to try to describe my feelings in regards to pain. O/our BDSM preferences tend to lean toward pain/corporal punishment. In fact, my Wife considers Herself to be an "expert" in the use of the cane, and i of course consider myself to be quite accomplished at taking a caning. However, lest i sound too cocky or bold, i'll admit that i have a love/hate relationship with the cane. i fear the cane, and the pain that it brings when Mistress makes it clear She intends to use it in a no nonsense fashion. But...the submissive, masochist in me craves the cane...the pain, the submission, the surrender, the acceptance that i have no choice but to submit.
i find it to be erotic and stimulating, an incredible turn on as i assume the position on the spanking bench and wait as my Mistress secures my ankles and wrists and finally gags me in preparation for the beating to come!
My stimulation (and hard on) are however short lived as the cuts begin. The burning, fiery sensation as that hot rod scorches my ass makes me scream through the gag until my throat is scorched! Every great once in a while though, i am able to reach that "magical place" where i can accept, in fact invite the pain...that point at which i stick my ass out further welcoming and craving the next stroke. This is indeed a rare occassion, but so very wonderful when it does happen!
So...before i get too long winded here...yes pain in something i invite, perhaps not for it's own sake but for the submission that comes along with it...it is feared, dreaded, but somehow craved. i hope this all made some degree of sense!
jamie

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Hello jamie and welcome to this conversation...what a wonderful introductory post!

Thank you for the detailed explanation of a scenerio you experience from its inception by your Mistress to its culmination for you.

The cane has also become one of My very favorite implements for punishment...it says its piece without being flambouyant but the submissive is never left in doubt about the seriousness of the transgression.

I hope you will feel right at home here amongst the kinksters

Thank You for the warm welcome! Yes...i do feel quite at home here among the kinksters! Nothing like being among my own kind!
jamie

Shadowsdream said:

~~smile~~ I have been waiting for you! I began this thread from your 'pain slut' statement and expected you to be here for this interesting conversation.

If you were to describe the pain that becomes the over riding type at the end of a long session of whips, floggers and canes...would you experience it as burning...throbbing...itching...erotic..or?

welcome to this new discussion catalina

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Though the erotic can certainly come into it, and often does, I think for me it is pure delight in the pain itself. I don't go to subpace though he has tried to take me there once just to let me experience it, so though I feel release on many levels, I feel every stroke of the cane, every flicker oif fire as the whip caresses my flesh. The sensations are reliant on what tools he uses, the way my mind and body feels on the day, and the extent to which he carries it. My favourite seems to be when I feel as if I am on fire, throbbing, swollen, and covered in a mass of tiny skin breakages that create that itching sting you just know is going to hurt so good under the shower or skin lotion later.

It is so good when we have reached that point where we both need a good pain session just to keep functioning like human beings, and then experience the sheer relief it brings us both in our respective ways. Thought I would include a pic he took part way through one of our recent sessions when I was just beginning to relax and beg for more and more and more. LOL. And would you believe, even after more on top of this, not a mark remained a couple of hours later?!! So frustrating. Now just to get the attic ready for tonight so we can let the bullwhip do it's magic again.

Catalina

Catalina:

Is that from a flogger or whip? Also how long does it take you to mark like that?

My sub also gets frustrated by the marks I put on her not lasting longer than they do. She craves the markings as I crave applying them, but there is a fine line in trying to mark someone.

Is there a pussy connection to pain? I had one pain slut, and the juice would literally run down her thighs.

tr65 said:

Catalina:

Is that from a flogger or whip? Also how long does it take you to mark like that?

My sub also gets frustrated by the marks I put on her not lasting longer than they do. She craves the markings as I crave applying them, but there is a fine line in trying to mark someone.

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From memory that pic was from a session where he used the flogger, cane, and bullwhip eventually. Biting seems to be the surest way to mark me..my semi hate, his ultra love. LOL.

Catalina

WriterDom said:

Is there a pussy connection to pain? I had one pain slut, and the juice would literally run down her thighs.

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LOL....we have that problem. Puddles are a regular side effect.

Catalina

That is a pathetic picture, I have done much better than that!!

We will have to redo it, take a picture so there is a more appropriate picture on the thread.

Francisco.

Please do post another. Marking pictures are as hot as it gets.

WriterDom said:

Is there a pussy connection to pain? I had one pain slut, and the juice would literally run down her thighs.

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Yes there is. If the pain is sexualized by the sub, it does cause a physical reaction in that region. Even if the pain is not sexualized on a mental level (i.e., the sub isn't thinking the pain feels good sexually, but rather it is tortuous and they want it over as soon as possible), there can be a physical reaction to the pain that would indicate arousal to another.

While the goal isn't always about sexual arousal from the pain, it can be a by product of a pain session, intentionally or not.

lara

catalina_francisco said:

There is something intimate and binding in pain that cannot be acheived in any other way IMO.
Catalina

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Yep, agree. Had enough adventures of my own in masoland to be able to say there's a definite and decided intimacy and power, and it's one of those "you kinda had to be there" inexplicable things.

WriterDom said:

Is there a pussy connection to pain? I had one pain slut, and the juice would literally run down her thighs.

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I'd guess there isn't necessarily. I've managed to be pierced and cut without soaking through my leathers.

catalina_francisco said:

That is a pathetic picture, I have done much better than that!!

We will have to redo it, take a picture so there is a more appropriate picture on the thread.

Francisco.

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Sheeesh, and did I not say this was only part way into the session in question darling Masterful one?!! Your reputation will not be damaged by this little bitty pic, but of course if you wish to improve on it I am only too willing to assist.

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Shadowsdream said:

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I also find Myself feeling as though I have entered another dimension when delivering pain is My main focus. Such a high that it takes Me hours to get My energy level back down. It does not lighten My mood but darkens it.

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Wow! This statement explains what I have been trying to get my thoughts around for a while now.

There are times my main focus is not in giving pain, but when it is, there is a mental buzz that heightens my senses.

His cries in response to the pain/pleasure sensation equate to cries of passion in my quirky little mind.

Delicious!

s'lara said:

Yes there is. If the pain is sexualized by the sub, it does cause a physical reaction in that region. Even if the pain is not sexualized on a mental level (i.e., the sub isn't thinking the pain feels good sexually, but rather it is tortuous and they want it over as soon as possible), there can be a physical reaction to the pain that would indicate arousal to another.

While the goal isn't always about sexual arousal from the pain, it can be a by product of a pain session, intentionally or not.

lara

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What she said. It's a love/hate thing for me. I crave the pain, yet I hate it at the same time. Even as the tears are flowing down my cheeks and I'm thinking I won't be able to stand another second of it, the puddle is forming.


Of course, I'm still a junior pain slut. I suspect that my threshold is low compared to some who are more experienced. That's ok with me. I've got years of play ahead. I'm not saying I have a goal to try and become someone who needs intense/extreme pain. It's just that I've noticed over time my cravings have evolved. I imagine that this evolution will continue with a natural result of needing more intensity and being able to endure more intense sensations. It's an interesting journey and I'm in no hurry.

Mmmmmm....bump....

Hmmm, I got beaten the other night, quite hard and fast, actually caused an injury I had on my hand to be split open and there was blood EVERYWHERE (I know, I should've moved my bloody hands when I was told to).

I started to shake, and he stopped.

Problem is I was shaking from endorphines, but it's kinda hard to convey that when somebody thinks they're gonna kill you.

I guess the pain curb goes both ways. Building your own pain limits and learning what your pain slut can take.

~~smile~~ it has been so long since I have seen this thread, what a pleasant surprise to read words from while ago and find that I have not lightened My touch but continue to ride the darker side of pain and pleasure.

I have read all of the responses since My last...thank you all for continuing the conversation. It is wonderful to see such openess...Pain...giving...to the right one receiving...makes the Cougar in Me pace and growl from the pit of My belly.

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