Interesting....

So if there's no injury that makes it ok?

I shared it because I find it interesting that every time I bring up things like gun control or crime rates everyone wants to tout Britain's low crime rates. Then I read, from UK sources that violent crime in the UK is up by as much as 15% and gun crime up by as much as 27%. Then I see this and have to wonder how much the increase would be if the police weren't cooking the books?

100,000 crimes not reported in London alone? Is the UK trying to hide their rising crime by not reporting it? Are they trying to get themselves ranked lower in the worlds crime rankings?

No one wants to compare the US and UK by the same parameters when it comes to crime, but then how can you when the UK isn't even reporting a large number crimes that WOULD have been reported here.

I have friends in Australia and Canada that tell me they have the same problem. Canada? Really? Where they are proud of their gun control laws being so effective but just had a mass shooting in Ontario that killed 9?

The year before last English and Welsh armed police opened fire on 10 occasions.

That's it. The whole of England and Wales.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...cs-england-and-wales-april-2016-to-march-2017

There were ten incidents in which police firearms were discharged in the year ending 31 March 2017, up from seven incidents in the previous year.

The latest statistics for 2017-18:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/26/armed-police-operations-rise-19-in-england-and-wales

Officers opened fire on 12 occasions, up from 10 the previous year, including the fatal shooting of three terrorists to stop the London Bridge terrorist attack in June 2017.

How does that compare with US police statistics?

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How does that compare with US police statistics?

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Do you expect me to take that as a legitimate question?

The UK has less than a tenth of the US population and the vast majority of your law enforcement officers don't even carry guns. They couldn't shoot anyone if they HAD to. Were the terrorists in the London Bridge terror attack shot by regular patrol officers? Or London's equivalent of a SWAT team? And How long did it take to get firearms on the scene to deal with it?

This is what I'm talking about. You want to make comparisons based on ridiculous parameters and point to that as proof. It's NOT. It's just bullshit.

The US is ranked third in the world for gun related deaths on some lists. But if you remove the stats from Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, New Orleans and Wash. D.C. it falls to third from the BOTTOM on that same list. Isn't it ironic that those five cities have the strictest gun control laws in the country?

The left still wants to blame American gun owners, who have never committed a crime in their lives and likely never will, for the violent crime in this country while DEFENDING the criminals who are actually responsible.

"Oh, it's not his fault. He grew up in a poor family and his father abused him." BULLSHIT! He committed the crime, it IS his fault. Punish HIM. Not ME.

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I shared it because I find it interesting that every time I bring up things like gun control or crime rates everyone wants to tout Britain's low crime rates.

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Ok...here's the same information for the U.S Gun violence in major U.S. cities is massively underreported

And that's just for the two cities they've selected. Imagine if they studied a larger city like NYC, Boston, or LA? Now imagine if they studied a city in a red state like Houston.

Your argument is shitty.

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I shared it because I find it interesting that every time I bring up ...

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Your 5.13 posts per month over 13 years?

oggbashan said:

How does that compare with US police statistics?

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There was a report a year of two back that US police killed more with guns in one month than UK police have in their entire history.

I don't recall how long ago, or the exact details though.

Dated information but more interesting than the OP:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_firearm_use_by_country