Go Back   Literotica Discussion Board > Main Literotica Forums > Authors' Hangout

Reply
 
Thread Tools

Old 09-25-2017, 07:54 PM   #1
Elloelle
Really Experienced
 
Elloelle's Avatar
 
Elloelle is offline
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 144
Favorite mis-used words and phrases....

Two phrases that can always make me spew coffee from my nose:

"It's a mute point." (MOOT) It's NOT a mute point. I just spoke it aloud.

"Wet your Appetite." (WHET) Sharpen it. Don't drown it.

What are some of your favorite misuses of words and phrases?
__________________
.
,


Anal Sex is for Buttholes


Now New and Improved! With 75% more!

The Boss's stuff.
(Not Bruce Springfield and stuff)
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-25-2017, 08:15 PM   #2
LoquiSordidaAdMe
Really Experienced
 
LoquiSordidaAdMe's Avatar
 
LoquiSordidaAdMe is offline
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 244
"I could care less."

If you could care less, then you must care, at least a little.

If you really don't care at all, then you couldn't care less.
__________________
Here are my prosaic little stroke stories

Yes, I'm aware of my execrable taste in music.
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-25-2017, 08:30 PM   #3
Bramblethorn
Mallory Heart Surgeon.
 
Bramblethorn's Avatar
 
Bramblethorn is online now
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 7,037
I've mentioned before that there are a couple of stories on this site where authors didn't know the difference between "burglar" and "bugler".
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-25-2017, 08:52 PM   #4
sr71plt
Literotica Guru
 
sr71plt's Avatar
 
sr71plt is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mid-Atlantic, USA
Posts: 51,576
Using "here, here" when it should be "hear, hear" (from the British Parliament).

When it occurs on the discussion board, I typically post "Where? Where?" but the poster rarely "gets in."
__________________
______________________
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-25-2017, 09:03 PM   #5
rjordan
Literotica Guru
 
rjordan's Avatar
 
rjordan is offline
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: California
Posts: 1,194
Calvary vs cavalry

Granted I rarely see references to either on Lit, but elsewhere I see calvary used when it should be cavalry. I don't see the reciprocal mistake very often.

rj
__________________
My stories


ETAOINSHRDLU
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-25-2017, 09:13 PM   #6
NotWise
Snipe hunter
 
NotWise's Avatar
 
NotWise is offline
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: On the high desert
Posts: 3,403
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bramblethorn View Post
I've mentioned before that there are a couple of stories on this site where authors didn't know the difference between "burglar" and "bugler".
You caught me on the difference between 'hansom' and 'handsome'
__________________
My stories

My personal favorites are The Third Ring and Oscar's Place.
My most recent story is Pixie in the Rain.
Next up is "Her Bodyguard," a brother/sister tale for the Valentine's Day contest
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-25-2017, 09:36 PM   #7
latecomer91364
Literotica Guru
 
latecomer91364's Avatar
 
latecomer91364 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: On the bottom, silly!
Posts: 4,366
Quote:
Originally Posted by NotWise View Post
You caught me on the difference between 'hansom' and 'handsome'
Some hansom cabs are quite handsome.

I dislike redundant phrases that people use, like 'as per usual' or (as or per will do the job quite nicely on their own).

I see too many people who forget the beginning of the sentence by the time they reach the end of it: 'Currently we are involved in a very lengthy discussion right now'.

And ' I self-medicated myself'.
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-25-2017, 11:36 PM   #8
Hypoxia
doesn't watch television
 
Hypoxia's Avatar
 
Hypoxia is offline
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Llareggub, just around the corner
Posts: 17,815
Peeked curiosity, or a fit of peak.

"It seems to me that..." and other voluble weaseling.

Limited vocabularies. C'mon, learn more words!
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-25-2017, 11:44 PM   #9
NotWise
Snipe hunter
 
NotWise's Avatar
 
NotWise is offline
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: On the high desert
Posts: 3,403
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoxia View Post
Limited vocabularies. C'mon, learn more words!
I have a bigger problem with writers who use words they don't need. Especially adverbs.
__________________
My stories

My personal favorites are The Third Ring and Oscar's Place.
My most recent story is Pixie in the Rain.
Next up is "Her Bodyguard," a brother/sister tale for the Valentine's Day contest
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 12:07 AM   #10
SimonDoom
Literotica Guru
 
SimonDoom is offline
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 999
I'm surprised at how often "lose" and "loose" are mixed up. I've seen that in at least a few stories on this site.
__________________
My stories are at https://www.literotica.com/stories/m...ge=submissions.
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 12:55 AM   #11
sr71plt
Literotica Guru
 
sr71plt's Avatar
 
sr71plt is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mid-Atlantic, USA
Posts: 51,576
Quote:
Originally Posted by rjordan View Post
Calvary vs cavalry

Granted I rarely see references to either on Lit, but elsewhere I see calvary used when it should be cavalry. I don't see the reciprocal mistake very often.

rj
Yeah, that's one I have to look up each time I use it--but I do know I have to look it up.
__________________
______________________
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 12:55 AM   #12
sr71plt
Literotica Guru
 
sr71plt's Avatar
 
sr71plt is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mid-Atlantic, USA
Posts: 51,576
Quote:
Originally Posted by SimonDoom View Post
I'm surprised at how often "lose" and "loose" are mixed up. I've seen that in at least a few stories on this site.
"chose" and "choose" too. And "shot" and "shoot."
__________________
______________________
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 12:58 AM   #13
latecomer91364
Literotica Guru
 
latecomer91364's Avatar
 
latecomer91364 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: On the bottom, silly!
Posts: 4,366
Anybody who says or writes 'irregardless'.
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 01:08 AM   #14
SimonDoom
Literotica Guru
 
SimonDoom is offline
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 999
Quote:
Originally Posted by latecomer91364 View Post
Anybody who says or writes 'irregardless'.
Yup. That's nails on a chalkboard.
__________________
My stories are at https://www.literotica.com/stories/m...ge=submissions.
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 01:14 AM   #15
SamScribble
Yeah, still just a guru
 
SamScribble's Avatar
 
SamScribble is offline
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Out there
Posts: 25,835
'Tenderhooks' always make me blink.
__________________
‘Writing is the ultimate decision-making experience. Every paragraph, every sentence, every word, is a decision.’ – Michael Bremer
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 01:19 AM   #16
sr71plt
Literotica Guru
 
sr71plt's Avatar
 
sr71plt is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mid-Atlantic, USA
Posts: 51,576
A strange one, and it doesn't bother me, but it doesn't seem to be known very far that, in U.S. publishing, it's "good-bye" (with a hyphen), not "goodbye." And, being an editor, although it doesn't outrage me, it jumps off the page at me when I'm editing someone else's copy.

Also, it's "T-shirt," not "tee shirt" or anything else. The derivation of the word is from the shape of the shirt: T.
__________________
______________________
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 01:38 AM   #17
latecomer91364
Literotica Guru
 
latecomer91364's Avatar
 
latecomer91364 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: On the bottom, silly!
Posts: 4,366
It's not 'The proof is in the pudding!' It's 'The proof of the pudding is in the eating!'

I know, it's possibly the evolution of a proverb or saying through common usage, like:

Ilsa: Play it once, Sam. For old times' sake.
Sam: I don't know what you mean, Miss Ilsa.
Ilsa: Play it, Sam. Play "As Time Goes By."

Or Rick's (to whom the false quote is commonly attributed) later request: "You played it for her, you can play it for me!"

Either of these is what became:

"Play me that song that I used to love but now cuts me to the depth of my soul", or something like that - I don't remember exactly.

Signed: The King of Digression
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 01:59 AM   #18
rjordan
Literotica Guru
 
rjordan's Avatar
 
rjordan is offline
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: California
Posts: 1,194
Quote:
Originally Posted by latecomer91364 View Post
Anybody who says or writes 'irregardless'.
Irregardless, it's a real word,

https://www.merriam-webster.com/video/irregardless

Kory Stamper is a national treasure.

rj
__________________
My stories


ETAOINSHRDLU
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 02:20 AM   #19
PervOtaku
Really Really Experienced
 
PervOtaku's Avatar
 
PervOtaku is offline
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 457
One of the worst ones is "for all intensive purposes", because now you're past a simple one-word homophone mix-up and are putting words together that don't actually make sense in any context.
__________________
Stories I've written
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 02:23 AM   #20
latecomer91364
Literotica Guru
 
latecomer91364's Avatar
 
latecomer91364 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: On the bottom, silly!
Posts: 4,366
Quote:
Originally Posted by rjordan View Post
Irregardless, it's a real word,

https://www.merriam-webster.com/video/irregardless

Kory Stamper is a national treasure.

rj
'First used in dialectical American speech in the early twentieth century'. This from the type of people one would expect to be scholarly, but in fact pander to the modern masses by putting stuff like 'Jiggy' in the dictionary (as in Will Smith 'Getting jiggy with it').

It's similar to Ebonics. It has no useful link to the actual etymology of words. To add the suffix 'less', indicates that there would be the word 'irregard' that could stand on its own. Of course, the actual operative word would be disregard

Etymology shouldn't be populist. I am more of a purist than some, but putting shit in a dictionary to remain relevant used to be beneath those from who we expect linguistic authority.

'Irregardless' belongs in the Urban Dictionary, not Mirriam-Webster, who has obviously prostituted their tradition.

It's just another example of the decline of pure scholarly pursuit, thrown over for the crumpled bills a whore grabs off the dresser.
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 02:37 AM   #21
Elloelle
Really Experienced
 
Elloelle's Avatar
 
Elloelle is offline
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by latecomer91364 View Post
Anybody who says or writes 'irregardless'.
So it IS regarded. Or is it? Double negatives confuse me, especially in the same word.
__________________
.
,


Anal Sex is for Buttholes


Now New and Improved! With 75% more!

The Boss's stuff.
(Not Bruce Springfield and stuff)
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 08:55 AM   #22
Bramblethorn
Mallory Heart Surgeon.
 
Bramblethorn's Avatar
 
Bramblethorn is online now
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 7,037
Quote:
Originally Posted by rjordan View Post
Irregardless, it's a real word,

https://www.merriam-webster.com/video/irregardless

Kory Stamper is a national treasure.

rj
Indeed she is!

That said, M-W's position on this isn't really exceptional. I compared M-W's notes on "irregardless" with those from Oxford, Collins, and American Heritage. They all acknowledge it, and they all say pretty much the same things about it: it's a non-standard usage, it probably originated as a blend of "irrespective" and "regardless", and although it's been around for a long time it's far from universally accepted so it may be better avoided.

The prescriptivists gave up the fight some time ago, at least in English. To the best of my knowledge every major English-language dictionary now takes a descriptivist stance: the point of a dictionary is to record how people do use the language, not to decide how they ought to.

As the great James Nicoll put it, "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore."
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 09:09 AM   #23
latecomer91364
Literotica Guru
 
latecomer91364's Avatar
 
latecomer91364 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: On the bottom, silly!
Posts: 4,366
When I was a kid, there was a joke: "'Ain't' ain't in the dictionary."

As stated above, the fact that MW or The Oxford-English Dictionary (I expected better from them), businesses that print dictionaries for sale would give 'irregardless' the status of a real word merely places it alongside other ridiculous entries such as "Frankenfood', 'Bouncebackability', 'Grrrl' and 'Screenager'.

To me (IMHO), the fact that somebody put these into the dictionary gives them only a cheap, superfluous veneer of legitimacy.

Go ahead, use 'irregardless' in both your writing and speaking, and then stand back and wait for that look of respect in the eyes of your audience. Keep waiting...

Perhaps review my initial post on the word:
Quote:
Originally Posted by latecomer91364 View Post
Anybody who says or writes 'irregardless'.
What's missing? Any reference as to whether it is regarded as a 'real' word or not.

Last edited by latecomer91364 : 09-26-2017 at 09:30 AM.
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 12:10 PM   #24
Hypoxia
doesn't watch television
 
Hypoxia's Avatar
 
Hypoxia is offline
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Llareggub, just around the corner
Posts: 17,815
Are or should dictionaries be descriptive or proscriptive or both or neither?

Is arguing over varied definitions more fun than exercising the words?

If we all wrote 'correctly', would not most of us be, umm, boring?

But shouldn't we mostly follow common spelling conventions?

Oh, the maze, the choices! What to do? What to do?

More coffee.
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-26-2017, 12:34 PM   #25
SimonDoom
Literotica Guru
 
SimonDoom is offline
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 999
Re "irregardless", Merriam-Webster treats it as a word, but it says this about it:

"Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead."

That about says it. Set aside whether it is a "word" or not, because definitional debates are not meaningful. The real question is whether it makes sense to use it, and the answer is, of course, no, because (A) the "ir" prefix contradicts and cancels out the "less" suffix, so it's inherently illogical and confusing, and (B) there is a better, shorter, clearer, noncontradictory alternative: "regardless."

You don't have to be a grammar/diction Nazi to conclude that "irregardless" should not be used.

It's like the word "utilize." It's a dopy, pretentious, pseudo-scientific, and unnecessarily long synonym for "use." There are no situations where "utilize" is better than "use", except in dialog, where you would use it to show that the speaker is a pretentious fool, or a corporate tool trying to gild a presentation to the bosses with five dollar words. It's a ridiculous, jury-rigged word (let us now ize our utils).

In response to Hypoxia's point: We don't want everyone to write the same way. But following the basic conventions of spelling, grammar, punctuation, and word choice enhances communication yet still allows for an almost infinite variety of prose styles.
__________________
My stories are at https://www.literotica.com/stories/m...ge=submissions.
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:54 PM.

Copyright 1998-2013 Literotica Online. Literotica is a registered trademark.