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Old 08-29-2017, 04:27 PM   #1301
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The rest of Houston only has 32-35 inches of rain.
Only?
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Old 08-29-2017, 05:43 PM   #1302
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There are a LOT of people involved in helping, some local some not. Lots more on the way. I would think that the enormity of the situation would make all help seem like a drop in the bucket of what is needed. This is going to be a very long, slow process of cleaning up. It would sure help if it would stop raining.

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Old 08-29-2017, 06:52 PM   #1303
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The total at 4PM is estimated at 9 Trillion Gallons of water. For perspective, that amount of water would completely fill the Great Salt Lake twice or if it was spread out over the lower 48 states, it would be .17 inches deep.

More water rescues are being made by private citizens than all the agencies put together. One estimate I saw said there were over 1000 private boats conduction rescues. There are around 150 fire and rescue boats doing the same thing. The reserve trucks are being used mostly for hauling the people away to shelters through the flooded streets.

The water on the west side of town has gone down enough for there to be a route from Houston to Austin/San Antonio. It is not a straight route by any means. There is still no way to get into Houston from the north or the East.

The storm is picking up strength again but it is also moving on to the east and north. The rain has stopped on the west side and has slacked off over Houston proper but now the east side is taking a pounding.

Another thing is the strong north wind which is piling up water from the bay on Galveston island and towns along the eastern shore of the bay. Parts of Galveston is under 2-5 feet of wind driven water. 53 mph winds with higher gusts.

Yeah, this is going to be a mess for a long time.
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Old 08-29-2017, 06:59 PM   #1304
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There are a LOT of people involved in helping, some local some not. Lots more on the way. I would think that the enormity of the situation would make all help seem like a drop in the bucket of what is needed. This is going to be a very long, slow process of cleaning up. It would sure help if it would stop raining.

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A while ago, I read that 'help' is still needed in Louisiana following the 2016 flood.
It's to be hoped that Texas will not take quite as long (I can almost hear a bureaucratic voice muttering "We got to do this by the book" or similar)
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A while ago, I read that 'help' is still needed in Louisiana following the 2016 flood.
It's to be hoped that Texas will not take quite as long (I can almost hear a bureaucratic voice muttering "We got to do this by the book" or similar)
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Old 08-29-2017, 07:40 PM   #1306
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I haven't been around these parts for some time, due to business travel. (MA, MN, RI, CA, and NC - in the past 5 weeks )

But I stopped in to check that TxRad is okay - good to see you still posting and apparently cheerful. Take care!
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Evening, folks. Little chilly here, a coffee or tea would hit the spot.
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Evening, folks. Little chilly here, a coffee or tea would hit the spot.
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New high rain total of 52.9 inches.
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New high rain total of 52.9 inches.
Getting food and safe water into Houston has to be a huge effort right now.
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One coffee coming up.

New high rain total of 52.9 inches.
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Of the 16 boats we sent down, 14 are still in service. One motor was burnt out in water that was too shallow but flowing way too fast to shut the motor down. Another hit something and cracked the lower end and bent a stainless steel prop. We sent an extra dozen props with them. Half of those have been used. Roads between here and there are flooded so we can't resupply them.

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Holy crap, TxRad, that's very generous of you. How do you have so many boats? Do you sell them or have some sort of boating business? I'm just curious, so you don't have to answer, if I'm getting too personal. I'm just very pleased that you're helping out in this way and I'm trying to picture your situation in my mind. Did you see that new WWII movie, Dunkirk? I loved it. The heroes of that movie are all these white haired working class gentlemen in hip boots and waders.
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Holy crap, TxRad, that's very generous of you. How do you have so many boats? Do you sell them or have some sort of boating business? I'm just curious, so you don't have to answer, if I'm getting too personal. I'm just very pleased that you're helping out in this way and I'm trying to picture your situation in my mind. Did you see that new WWII movie, Dunkirk? I loved it. The heroes of that movie are all these white haired working class gentlemen in hip boots and waders.
No, I do build very small jon boats for fishing, Four foot wide by eight or ten feet long. I only have one standard sized boat. I live on Lake Livingston and have a bunch of friends that fish. I put out the word that Houston needed help with water rescues and we had a bunch of people get together. 16 boats with 32 people loaded up. Another dozen people showed up with large trucks and travel trailers.

It took about four hours to get it all together and on the road. Extra props, extra gas cans, a couple of outboard mechanics, some people to cook. The local HEB donated food and water. Gas and oil came from several of the local stores. Walmart cleared out their remaining life jackets.

I wanted to go but my old legs would be more of a problem than a help so i stayed behind and coordinated. We set up a walkie talkie app to communicate with others and among ourselves. There is a group called the cajun navy that is better organized that is heading up several groups including ours.

There are a couple of fishing clubs from Waco mixed in also. Somewhere around 50 boats in the group total. Instagram, Facebook, and twitter are great ways to get the messages of who needs help and where.
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My best wishes to all affected by the pouring water in Texas and environs - much too much of a good thing.

A round of scotch, perhaps, to share?
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That is awesome. I saw something in the news about the Cajun navy.

Fantastic work, TxRad. My hat is off to you, good sir.
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That is awesome. I saw something in the news about the Cajun navy.

Fantastic work, TxRad. My hat is off to you, good sir.
Not me. I just got the ball rolling. This is the third time in the last twelve years this community has sent boats to Houston. I went on the last one. Lots of work, blood, sweat, and tears. Very little sleep and sometimes poor food. But the thanks from people are worth it. Sometimes you have more help than you need but you never turn it down.

Our guys are in awe of the spirit they have found in a drowned city. If the water is too shallow to launch, people just wade in, pick the boats up and set them in the water. The same when they finish an area. People load the boats on the trailers and tell our crews to take a break.

People you've never seen before and never will see again, show up with gas, food, water, you name it to help out. They carry women, children, the elderly from the boats to dry ground. That is sometimes several blocks.
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My best wishes to all affected by the pouring water in Texas and environs - much too much of a good thing.

A round of scotch, perhaps, to share?
12 year McCallan sounds good right about now.

I'll pour a glass of the 18 year for TxRad though. You Sir, are too modest. From everything you've said so far, you are one of the few great men left in the world. I may not know you personally, but even so, it's still nice to hear about people like you out there making a difference.
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More rain has fallen in Houston in the last five days than Phoenix has had in the last five years...
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Not me. I just got the ball rolling. This is the third time in the last twelve years this community has sent boats to Houston. I went on the last one. Lots of work, blood, sweat, and tears. Very little sleep and sometimes poor food. But the thanks from people are worth it. Sometimes you have more help than you need but you never turn it down.

Our guys are in awe of the spirit they have found in a drowned city. If the water is too shallow to launch, people just wade in, pick the boats up and set them in the water. The same when they finish an area. People load the boats on the trailers and tell our crews to take a break.

People you've never seen before and never will see again, show up with gas, food, water, you name it to help out. They carry women, children, the elderly from the boats to dry ground. That is sometimes several blocks.
You're our personal connection. I've appreciated the news. My brother is not communicative under the best of circumstances.
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Morning all,

It rained here all night. The flooding is moving east to Beaumont, orange, the state line area. Heavy rain plus record high levels for the Sabine and Trinity rivers. The Trinity is the river Lake Livingston is on. The west side of the Houston area is dealing with record highs on the Brazos, San Bernard, and Colorado rivers.

There are areas flooded that have never seen flooding in the history of the city. The roads home are still flooded for our guys but they are working areas along the northern creeks and rivers.

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According to our local news, the Mayor is getting peeved at 'looters' raiding abandoned homes. If you catch a looter, chuck him (?) in the river and let him sink.

I'll bet the Insurance Companies are wetting themselves about the claims.
I'll volunteer a bottle of Asbach Brandy for the rescuers.
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Interstate 45 is open so our group is headed home the long way around. There will be a party down the road at the local watering hole when they get here.

The storm is still raising hell east of Houston and we're getting the western edge of the rain bands. It has been light rain this morning but it heavy at present.

I think I see a nap in my near future.

Yeah, the mayor is getting peeved at a lot of stuff. The main thing he is getting raked over the coals for is letting water out of the retention dams, which is causing flooding below them. Another group is bitching because he didn't make them let more water out as homes are flooding above the dams. A no win situation if there ever was one.

Maybe one more cup of coffee before I take my nap.
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I'm on my third cuppa, took a little me time today, which included a meander over the hill. Haven't walked out that way since I had the munchkin, far too long, but it was a good day for it. Used to visit a lady over there, dreamt of her this morning, was nice to see her house again at least, though she hasn't been there for several years.
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I'm on my third cuppa, took a little me time today, which included a meander over the hill. Haven't walked out that way since I had the munchkin, far too long, but it was a good day for it. Used to visit a lady over there, dreamt of her this morning, was nice to see her house again at least, though she hasn't been there for several years.
If she's passed on, I guess her spirit will appreciate the gesture.


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It ain't !

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People you've never seen before and never will see again, show up with gas, food, water, you name it to help out. They carry women, children, the elderly from the boats to dry ground. That is sometimes several blocks.
I'm always astounded by the general generosity of effort and resources by neighbors near and far during emergencies. We had a MAJOR forest fire nearby two years ago, one of the top three in California history. As flames neared farms and hamlets, crowds of volunteers whisked people and animals to safety. Locals (especially an Indian casino-resort) freely provided food and shelter for evacuees. THOUSANDS from outside brought supplies and their labor. The greater community was awesome.

Relief efforts and rebuilding continue. Homes, businesses, schools, farms, ranches in our foothills and mountains -- they slowly return. It takes time. It's easier when new friends are there to help.

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