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The Official Authors' Hangout National Nude Day 2017 Contest Support Thread

I am starting this thread now so that writers have no excuse for not starting a story in plenty of time (and I will be away and off line on the start date). It's past the First of May when outdoor activities start, even if the weather might not be appropriate.

National Nude Day (July 14)
themes: public nudity, exhibitionism, etc.
starts: June 20
closes: July 11
winners announced: July 18

This thread is to SUPPORT and ENCOURAGE authors to enter stories in the National Nude Day Contest. Get your characters naked and fooling around. What could go wrong?

There is an advantage to entering stories in one of Literotica's themed contests, apart from the possibility of winning, and that is that your story gets far more exposure and attention than it would normally do.

Some of that attention might be unwelcome, some abusive, but some could be appreciative and helpful.

For those not US based, July 14 is also France's Bastille Day, but for this contest it would have to be a nude Bastille Day.
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Rules are in a link from the Welcome Authors! Please Read sticky at the top of the Authors' Hangout or:

http://literotica.com/contests/

That link also leads to all the previous winners of monthly and themed contests.
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I'm going to have to take a look at some previous Nude Day stories to see how you can approach this one. Public nudity and exhibitionism just isn't something that's ever interested me so I'm not sure about putting something in. Does anyone have any sort of generic pointers they'd be kind enough to share?
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I'm going to have to take a look at some previous Nude Day stories to see how you can approach this one. Public nudity and exhibitionism just isn't something that's ever interested me so I'm not sure about putting something in. Does anyone have any sort of generic pointers they'd be kind enough to share?
It's bit challenging because "include naked people" is also the directive for like every erotic story ever.

I've previously used some specific events organized for Nude Day as inspiration / story elements. That might be a place to start.
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The formula that's worked for me is a casual to full lifestyle nudist paired up with someone who's either curious, or thrust into the situation and has enough confidence to bite the bullet and strip for whatever the reason is. You have somebody who's uncomfortable, and someone who's either a little amused by that, or perhaps ready to support them and bring them into the fold. It's a dynamic you can work from either side for character development.

Rather than setting it in public, I've found that places closed for nudist events or actual nudist venues work the best. You don't sit there pondering "is this going to get them thrown in jail?" The nudity has already been vetted for legality in those settings, so it's completely off the table.

It's best to assume that such venues have at least an unspoken rule, and more likely a written rule about sex in the public spaces. Go back to the room, or the RV, or the tent, or wherever before the fires really start burning. That lets you play around with some sexual tension especially with guys trying to keep Mr. Happy in the at-ease position. If it's the n00b, it's obvious. If it's the vet, then it's probably something he hasn't dealt with in a long time.

For me, that's a far easier framework to come up with a story than something like "Let's fuck on top of the fire tower." Tying it directly to Nude Day is also far easier when you have a place and most likely one character familiar with the event.

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Me too.

I'm also having trouble with this one, as the "nude day festivities" notion seems contrived; it's not something I'd ever want to read about, so I don't want to write about it either.

I think I've settled on something I like, and if it's not "nude enough," I guess I'll hear about it.
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I'm going to have to take a look at some previous Nude Day stories to see how you can approach this one. Public nudity and exhibitionism just isn't something that's ever interested me so I'm not sure about putting something in. Does anyone have any sort of generic pointers they'd be kind enough to share?
Like Cyrano said technically? Every erotic story ever could apply and I'm sure we have all seen entries here that make no effort at all to have anything other than 'my characters got naked'

So the fact that its easy is what can make it difficult if you're someone who wants to make the effort to do better than that.

RR's basic point about a first timer always works in just about any category or situation because you can get great conflict and nervous excitement out of that. People can identify and live vicariously through first timers.

I placed second last year with an incest story about a woman who had been an up and coming porn star in the 90's, but retired when she fell in love. Years later she's forced back into the industry due to financial woes and is now classified as a milf and finds herself cast in a lot of mom son role. Course she has a son and...yeah anyway....but to me it was simple "Can't get more naked than a porn star" so not exactly clever, but 29 pages no one can say I didn't pit effort into it.

Two years ago I took what I felt was a unique spin on it which I won't go into detail with here and it finished just out of placing, but ended up being the July monthly winner in...Romance.

So its there, all you have to do is be creative and that's what writers are supposed to be(supposed to because I never count the cookie cutter write the same story 40 time type)
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I'm going to have to take a look at some previous Nude Day stories to see how you can approach this one. Public nudity and exhibitionism just isn't something that's ever interested me so I'm not sure about putting something in. Does anyone have any sort of generic pointers they'd be kind enough to share?
The only comp I've entered was a NND a couple of years ago. That year the conspiracy theorists and vote riggers were out in force and I could not believe the blah blah blah bullshit bullshit bullshit, so I wrote a complete piss take, which actually ran OK. I started writing it after the comp opened, and watched its scores go up and down up and down with all the sweeps. Which sort of confirmed the point of it. Other people "got it", which was nice.

Naoko Smith accused me of being all post modern and self conscious, which amused me no end (ah no, taking the piss here, just taking the piss) but gave it a five because she liked my heroine. She wrote a major commendation of a later story, so all was forgiven.

I was most disappointed coz no-one picked the paraphrase of the chasm scene from Kublai Khan, which I used to describe my heroine's orgasm. And this lot reckon they're writers, lol!

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I'm going to have to take a look at some previous Nude Day stories to see how you can approach this one. Public nudity and exhibitionism just isn't something that's ever interested me so I'm not sure about putting something in. Does anyone have any sort of generic pointers they'd be kind enough to share?
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Me too.

I'm also having trouble with this one, as the "nude day festivities" notion seems contrived; it's not something I'd ever want to read about, so I don't want to write about it either.

I think I've settled on something I like, and if it's not "nude enough," I guess I'll hear about it.
This link goes to past Contest Winners (except 2016). You could see what other people have done for Nude Day:

http://literotica.com/contests/specialcontests.html

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These are the 2016 Nude Day winners:

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1332544

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If you have to ask for ideas are you going to be original? Can you claim to have imagination? Where is the experience? Aren't these things the essence of most good writing? With out them it is difficult to claim to be a good writer. Are you a good transcriber or a good writer?

There are very few Shakespeares who copy and produce gold.

I'd be too embarrassed to ask. My story is ready. It is original. All of my stories are. It breaks rules. There's always risk- the risk that it won't work, but isn't that what it's always about, what the excitement of it is? It's got to be a lot better than entering some one else's story.
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If you have to ask for ideas are you going to be original? Can you claim to have imagination? Where is the experience? Aren't these things the essence of most good writing? With out them it is difficult to claim to be a good writer. Are you a good transcriber or a good writer?

There are very few Shakespeares who copy and produce gold.

I'd be too embarrassed to ask. My story is ready. It is original. All of my stories are. It breaks rules. There's always risk- the risk that it won't work, but isn't that what it's always about, what the excitement of it is? It's got to be a lot better than entering some one else's story.
"Can you claim to have imagination?" "Where is the experience?"

Not sure if you ever read any stories on Lit, but Chloe happens to be the winner of last Literotica April Fool's Day Story Contest, and also Voboy has a nice, diverse list of stories at Lit.; more than six, and all of them very well appreciated. Both of them have no reason to be embarrassed about their work.

I think you should appreciate the fact that they are trying something out of their comfort zone, and they will probably be able to give their own, unique twist to their stories, whether they are inspired on other stories or not.

[Edit] Sorry - Voboy didn't even ask for suggestions, so I shouldn't have included his name here. Doesn't detract from the fact that he has written really good work.
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If you have to ask for ideas are you going to be original? Can you claim to have imagination? Where is the experience? Aren't these things the essence of most good writing? With out them it is difficult to claim to be a good writer. Are you a good transcriber or a good writer?

There are very few Shakespeares who copy and produce gold.

I'd be too embarrassed to ask. My story is ready. It is original. All of my stories are. It breaks rules. There's always risk- the risk that it won't work, but isn't that what it's always about, what the excitement of it is? It's got to be a lot better than entering some one else's story.
I'm going to assume you mean 'outside the norm' and not that it contains content that would violate lits rules. Just calling that out because if the latter is the case you may want to rethink what you're doing.
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I'm going to assume you mean 'outside the norm' and not that it contains content that would violate lits rules. Just calling that out because if the latter is the case you may want to rethink what you're doing.

Thank you for pointing this out.

Why would being original have to violate the rules? I tried to violate them once by submitting a poem instead of prose but that is all. Poems aren't accepted in contests in spite of mine being a story, a ballad. There was nothing in its content that violated the rules. It dealt with sexuality and death. There was no necrophilia or any thing else- it was given the dignity it deserved. It was original. It would be accepted as a poem but not in a contest. I remember being offended by the rule-I didn't realise it existed until after my submission. I don't do incest and other things that are considered as acceptable by others. My rules restrict me a lot more than those of the site.
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I have broken the 'rules' of writing for Lit contests:

Getting Nude with Chairman Mao had significant quotes from his Little Red Book. I had to rewrite my first version because there was more of Mao than of Og.

Breathless Stargazing also broke the 'rules' for Earth Day.

I enjoyed writing both but they weren't serious contenders for the contests. That's the problem. Breaking the rules or giving readers something really different isn't popular.

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I have broken the 'rules' of writing for Lit contests:

Getting Nude with Chairman Mao had significant quotes from his Little Red Book. I had to rewrite my first version because there was more of Mao than of Og.

Breathless Stargazing also broke the 'rules' for Earth Day.

I enjoyed writing both but they weren't serious contenders for the contests. That's the problem. Breaking the rules or giving readers something really different isn't popular.

Makes me smile- you were the one who explained my transgression and blunted my fury. I want to thank you for that- I think I lacked manners at the time. I knew it wouldn't win, but I knew, on the basis of its content alone it would be the most original story in a very long time to be submitted for a contest. I spent a long time coming up with it, writing it...

Funny- I believe the Chairman was often naked- an appropriate story for the topic.
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Oh, spare me.

There are few ideas that are purely "original," and most writers of any quality in any genre habitually build on ideas from elsewhere. Don't be pompous.
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Oh, spare me.

There are few ideas that are purely "original," and most writers of any quality in any genre habitually build on ideas from elsewhere. Don't be pompous.
Sorry- pomposity isn't my strength- never has been.
I would have thought that in a contest originality would play a significant part. That the story originates with its author at least. Why not?
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Sorry- pomposity isn't my strength- never has been.
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Writing your own stories is a necessity for contests. Having a pristine idea so "original" that no other human being has ever conceived it is not (and lies somewhere between "highly unlikely" and "near impossible"). Acting like you don't know the difference is pomposity, and you just finished browbeating someone in exactly such terms for soliciting ideas on how to approach the contest matter. Someone to whom you probably owe an apology, by the way, after which you could stand to knock off the precious bullshit.
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Sorry- pomposity isn't my strength- never has been.
I would have thought that in a contest originality would play a significant part. That the story originates with its author at least. Why not?
One would think that, but a lot of people just like writing the same old thing and as someone just pointed out, readers seem like they'd rather read the same damn plot fifty times over than deal with something that makes them think.

Best thing to do is just write whatever you feel like and not have much in the way of expectations one way or another.
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"Can you claim to have imagination?" "Where is the experience?"

Not sure if you ever read any stories on Lit, but Chloe happens to be the winner of last Literotica April Fool's Day Story Contest, and also Voboy has a nice, diverse list of stories at Lit.; more than six, and all of them very well appreciated. Both of them have no reason to be embarrassed about their work.

I think you should appreciate the fact that they are trying something out of their comfort zone, and they will probably be able to give their own, unique twist to their stories, whether they are inspired on other stories or not.

[Edit] Sorry - Voboy didn't even ask for suggestions, so I shouldn't have included his name here. Doesn't detract from the fact that he has written really good work.
I didn't indeed, and I'd never condemn Chloe for doing so. Thank you for the kind words. This is supposed to be a forum where writers can discuss things like ideas and best practices, and beyond that this is supposed to be a thread that SUPPORTS the NND contest entrants. To wit:

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If you have to ask for ideas are you going to be original? Can you claim to have imagination? Where is the experience? Aren't these things the essence of most good writing? With out them it is difficult to claim to be a good writer. Are you a good transcriber or a good writer?

There are very few Shakespeares who copy and produce gold.

I'd be too embarrassed to ask. My story is ready. It is original. All of my stories are. It breaks rules. There's always risk- the risk that it won't work, but isn't that what it's always about, what the excitement of it is? It's got to be a lot better than entering some one else's story.
I don't read this as supportive, and I'm not sure you meant it to be. Ogg sets up these threads for a good, positive purpose, and a couple of contests ago it degenerated into a typical internet wasteland. I appreciate him setting this one up, but if you wish to bait other writers or question their well-meaning requests for help, you should start your own threads.
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If you have to ask for ideas are you going to be original? Can you claim to have imagination? Where is the experience? Aren't these things the essence of most good writing? With out them it is difficult to claim to be a good writer. Are you a good transcriber or a good writer? .... I'd be too embarrassed to ask. My story is ready. It is original. All of my stories are. It breaks rules. There's always risk- the risk that it won't work, but isn't that what it's always about, what the excitement of it is? It's got to be a lot better than entering some one else's story.
Not a worry. Honestly, I just hadn't ever looked at the Nude Day competition before so I wasn't quite sure how to approach it. No problem with story ideas, I have those coming out my ears. Too many of them to be honest, I can't write fast enough to keep up with myself sometimes. I have about five stories I'm writing in parallel right now and a couple more that are half done and on hold until I have time to get back to them.

For the other competitions it's kind of obvious what the theme's are, but "Nude Day." I mean, could you write about someone getting up and stripping in a bar and would that meet the "nude day" criteria? That was kind of more where I was going with the "what's the approach" question.

And nope, never to embarrassed to ask - I'd rather ask and make sure I understand the ground rules than write something that's totally off the competition topic.

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......trying something out of their comfort zone, and they will probably be able to give their own, unique twist to their stories, whether they are inspired on other stories or not.
Oh, you are so right on that Ruben. I wasn't even thinking about writing one for this and then I thought, why not, it's something I've never even thought about. But I was more than a bit uncertain about the topic.

Still am to be honest, but I'll go and look at those previous stories and just get an idea of what's in scope and what's not. It's not the ideas, so much as the broad theme of the competition. I mean, Nude? As Cyrano said, you can get nude pretty much anywhere for anything. I could jump on a table in a bar and get there. LOL. I might not get out, but I could get there
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