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What's the difference between fascism and conservatives?

abelle

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Fascists usually wear Hugo Boss; conservatives wear Brooks Brothers.
 
Fascists are a form of government more than political ideology.

Its where there's strong support for the state vs the people, and one or a small group dominate the government. Stalin was a communist fascist, Hitler was a socialist fascist, most monarchs are fascists.
 
NOIRTRASH said:
Fascists are a form of government more than political ideology.

Its where there's strong support for the state vs the people, and one or a small group dominate the government. Stalin was a communist fascist, Hitler was a socialist fascist, most monarchs are fascists.
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So what kind of fascist is Trump?
 
Just showing how freaking stupid all the posts (and trump chumps) are in here.
 
Keep living 70 years in the past loser.

"Fascism" if it even existed at all outside of the Italian party so named, was a very brief political system, lasting less than 25 years. By contrast, Communism lasted over nearly 80 years in its Soviet form, was invented far earlier than so-called "fascism" and in fact continues to exist even in name as the ruling party in a few countries.

Yet, interestingly, many of the same "live in the past" buffoons who rant constantly about "fascism" today, despite no real parallels to anything today, will jump all over anyone who calls anyone a Communist, even those who label themselves that way. Stop "living in the past" these hypocrites say. No, look in the mirror for that hypocrite.
 
What these paranoid live-in-the-past hysterics refer to as "fascism" is anything that is similar to post-war suburban middle American beliefs and way of life.

It would be interesting to go in a time machine and tell Americans in the 1950s and 60s that they are "fascists." Of course they would punch you in the nose since many of them fought in the war against "fascists" and lost loved ones in the war.
 
renard, why are you saying America was fascist in the 1950's? Was Eisenhower basically Musolini?

Don't let Herr Toupee hear that or he will put you on the bus with the Mexican rapists and send you over the border, you US hating renob.
 
According to Mussolini (who coined the term) Fascism is the intimate linkage of business, government, and military. Sounds to me like post-WWII USA up to now and in the future.
 
 
Haha true. In trying to make fun of conservatives, he dug his own hole. Because fascism has to with collectivism and is more likely to be at the extremist pole of the socialist (normal)-communist - fascist (pathological) spectrum.
 
Hypoxia said:
According to Mussolini (who coined the term) Fascism is the intimate linkage of business, government, and military. Sounds to me like post-WWII USA up to now and in the future.
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This, but covered in nationalism, nativism, and blaming immigrants and foreigners. Which is basically Trumps campaign.
 
Hypoxia said:
According to Mussolini (who coined the term) Fascism is the intimate linkage of business, government, and military. Sounds to me like post-WWII USA up to now and in the future.
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abelle said:
This, but covered in nationalism, nativism, and blaming immigrants and foreigners. Which is basically Trumps campaign.
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Your such a Putz. Hypoxia just gave you the origin & definition and your blathering on about nativism, immigrants. Have trouble separating things much in bubble world?
 
Franco was fascist and Spain did well under his thumb.

I was there and what I observed was how women could walk anywhere, night or day, safely; women could sell pussy at authorized brothels but not on the street; public transportation, food, education, medical care, and housing were cheap and plentiful, and he made foreign corporations build factories in Spain.

Franco decided, not politicians owned by wall street.
 
Sometimes I'll see a thread on the GB that seems to hold some promise--and then I read the responses.

Pretty much the only thing anyone got right here in terms of political theory when "rebutting" the OP was pointing out it originated in Italy. They got the war and leader under which it originated, its position on the left-right/liberal-conservative spectrum, and even the basics of the ideology itself wrong--but, hey, getting that it started in Italy is something.

Fascism was the Italian version of national syndicalism, presents a totalitarian view of the proper organization of power relations in society, promoted right-wing social views, and was founded during WWI in direct opposition to Communist and other left-wing, pro-worker movements of the time. It also directly influenced the development of the later right-wing, totalitarian governments of Europe, namely the National Socialists/Nazis of Germany and the later generation of Fascists. By any sane metric, it's a right-wing political ideology with the versions of it under Franco, Hitler, and Mussolini being radically right-wing.
 
You do not get to define what "conservatism" is.

:eek:

Hitler was a NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST like Bernie and Hillary (the PROGRESSIVE which is demospeak for I don't like the label Socialist, but I like Socialism; I'll boil the frog slower than Bernie would)...
 
Setanta84 said:
Sometimes I'll see a thread on the GB that seems to hold some promise--and then I read the responses.

Pretty much the only thing anyone got right here in terms of political theory when "rebutting" the OP was pointing out it originated in Italy. They got the war and leader under which it originated, its position on the left-right/liberal-conservative spectrum, and even the basics of the ideology itself wrong--but, hey, getting that it started in Italy is something.

Fascism was the Italian version of national syndicalism, presents a totalitarian view of the proper organization of power relations in society, promoted right-wing social views, and was founded during WWI in direct opposition to Communist and other left-wing, pro-worker movements of the time. It also directly influenced the development of the later right-wing, totalitarian governments of Europe, namely the National Socialists/Nazis of Germany and the later generation of Fascists. By any sane metric, it's a right-wing political ideology with the versions of it under Franco, Hitler, and Mussolini being radically right-wing.
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Dear you don't understand fascism and cant see it was around long ago with the Pharoahs, Alexander, the Julians, the early Muslims, and even with George 3rd and Parliament and the East India Tea Company. Youre a dunce, cupcake.
 
Setanta84 said:
Sometimes I'll see a thread on the GB that seems to hold some promise--and then I read the responses.

Pretty much the only thing anyone got right here in terms of political theory when "rebutting" the OP was pointing out it originated in Italy. They got the war and leader under which it originated, its position on the left-right/liberal-conservative spectrum, and even the basics of the ideology itself wrong--but, hey, getting that it started in Italy is something.

Fascism was the Italian version of national syndicalism, presents a totalitarian view of the proper organization of power relations in society, promoted right-wing social views, and was founded during WWI in direct opposition to Communist and other left-wing, pro-worker movements of the time. It also directly influenced the development of the later right-wing, totalitarian governments of Europe, namely the National Socialists/Nazis of Germany and the later generation of Fascists. By any sane metric, it's a right-wing political ideology with the versions of it under Franco, Hitler, and Mussolini being radically right-wing.
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What I find interesting in your response was the usual caveat from Socialists, i.e., when one version or another of Socialism goes bad, then it was a "right-wing" idea...

Why is it a right-wing idea? Because businessmen, like Trump, went along with the flow, paid their indulgences and were allowed to stay at the top of the Socialist food chain. That's the big right-wing idea behind all Social Utopias; do what you have to do to survive and maybe even thrive.
 
NOIRTRASH said:
Franco was fascist and Spain did well under his thumb.

I was there and what I observed was how women could walk anywhere, night or day, safely; women could sell pussy at authorized brothels but not on the street; public transportation, food, education, medical care, and housing were cheap and plentiful, and he made foreign corporations build factories in Spain.

Franco decided, not politicians owned by wall street.
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Clearly, Franco was not delivering Utopia.

Did he not restore the monarchy and institute Democracy?

He wasn't a Fascist, he was just a dictator who executed close to half a million of his citizens. When you do that, yeah, people are going to be on their best behavior...
 
4est_4est_Gump said:
Clearly, Franco was not delivering Utopia.

Did he not restore the monarchy and institute Democracy?

He wasn't a Fascist, he was just a dictator who executed close to half a million of his citizens. When you do that, yeah, people are going to be on their best behavior...
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His Guardia Civil kept the niggers polite and off the street.
 
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