Potential plot bunny - genetic attraction

Yep, there seem to be a scientific way of predicting our disposition to having exceptionally good sex with certain partners, which of course can be easily extrapolated to the likelihood of cheating with such a person.

According to researchers at University of New Mexico we experience sex as being significantly more enjoyable between MHC-dissimilar people (MHC is a gene complex that's part of the immune system) and consequently more frequent. The influence is most significant on women. Especially in the fertile part of their cycle, where women's attraction to males outside a relationship - and thus the likelihood of cheating - increases with their MHC similarity to their primary partner. Apparently guys are more like "Who gives a shit about her genes as long as she's got boobs...".

So forget all about horoscopes and other hocus pocus. Go get a genetic profile and you'll have a much better idea of your partners drive to stray. At least within the obvious confines of the study (N=48... hardly enough for making assumptions regarding the behavior of the population as a whole).


Anyway, I figured that this might be of interest for those seeking to inject a little science into their cheating spouse and fatal attraction stories. The hypothesis regarding the reason is of course an evolutionary mechanism to secure genetic diversity and the sensory vector is most likely olfactory.


Well there ya go. Remember to send me a cut of the profit when you get famous...

The problem with this, is it's science and one that human nature and personality will cause to be useless.

Perfect example, E-Harmony. That site has a test that takes well over an hour to take during which you answer questions about anything and everything and these questions were created through studies of who is attracted to whom and they match you up with compatible people.

My wife and I took the test for fun. They wouldn't even put us on the same planet never mind hook us up for a date based on our answers. And there are plenty of happy couples we look at and say <"Man what are they doing together"

So I take this as more waste of money that could have been spent on disease research or something that would actually benefit people.

And the women will cheat on their period? really?

Misogynists......no end to their creativity. It is now DNA that caused women to stray. Not the fact their man could be a useless inattentive asshat.

So yes, another LW plot bunny designed to make women look like whores and those wonderful sweet loving men the innocent victims.

People can make fun of the incest readers or say the non con readers are sick or the non human crowd likes animals etc....but end of the day them men in LW are the most loathsome, pathetic, disgusting mouth breathing waste oh life that has ever been shot out to drag their knuckles across this earth.

lovecraft68 said:

The problem with this, is it's science and one that human nature and personality will cause to be useless.

Perfect example, E-Harmony. That site has a test that takes well over an hour to take during which you answer questions about anything and everything and these questions were created through studies of who is attracted to whom and they match you up with compatible people.

My wife and I took the test for fun. They wouldn't even put us on the same planet never mind hook us up for a date based on our answers. And there are plenty of happy couples we look at and say <"Man what are they doing together"

So I take this as more waste of money that could have been spent on disease research or something that would actually benefit people.

And the women will cheat on their period? really?

Misogynists......no end to their creativity. It is now DNA that caused women to stray. Not the fact their man could be a useless inattentive asshat.

So yes, another LW plot bunny designed to make women look like whores and those wonderful sweet loving men the innocent victims.

People can make fun of the incest readers or say the non con readers are sick or the non human crowd likes animals etc....but end of the day them men in LW are the most loathsome, pathetic, disgusting mouth breathing waste oh life that has ever been shot out to drag their knuckles across this earth.

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Uh oh. You might as well get a divorce right away - according to statistics you don't stand a chance of making it. Sorry to be the one to break the bad news to yall

You are right of course. Human attraction has numerous parameters on a physiological as well as a psychological level besides this "genetic attraction". Plus there is the whole social thing, with common values, goals and personalities. A good orgasm is 12 contractions with a frequency of 0.8Hz for a total of 9.6 seconds. If the other 86390,4 seconds of the day sucks the relationship wont work regardless of how awesome the orgasms are.


But within the fantasy universe of Loving Wives we suspend many of the mundanities of life and concentrate on pure sexual attraction. And in this context genetic attraction can be used as a rationalization for the housewife to cheat with the hunky neighbor in the same way that the sperm competition reflex can be used to rationalize cuckolding.

To me plausibility is key to immersion in a story. If characters act in ways that don't make sense, I lose interest. A little scientific rationale can make a big difference....

StrangeLife said:

A good orgasm is 12 contractions with a frequency of 0.8Hz for a total of 9.6 seconds.

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That was...enlightening. Next time, I won't forget to set my stopwatch .

TheSoulfulBard said:

That was...enlightening. Next time, I won't forget to set my stopwatch .

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Who said science cant be sexy....

http://commonsenseatheism.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/sexy-scientist.jpg

I've watched quite a few documentaries on sexuality and can tell you that there are many scientific factors. Here's a few:

It's true that women are more sexually satisfied by men with a different MHS, and that identification comes from pheromones. The higher rate of sexual satisfaction is to encourage women to breed with men who will produce healthier children. It also discourages incest which breeds unhealthy children.

Males are affected by pheromones according to when a woman is in her monthly cycle. Women who are at the high fertile state are more attractive. Men were shown pics of 10 women of varying degrees and types of beauty. When men were inhaling pheromones of low fertility, they ranked the women differently. When they were breathing in high fertility hormones, they graded all the women as attractive.

Fertile Women in a relationship will show more skin than single fertile women. It is believed that this is so a taken woman can attract a more desirable sperm donor without losing a provider male. The single woman is trying to attract the best possible partner, so she doesn't want to solicit undesirables that could interfere.

Men are driven to produce as many children as possible. Women are driven to produce the best children possible. This combination of motives is to produce as many optimal children as possible.

Men have 3 types of sperm: attackers, blockers, and fertilizers. Attackers actually attack sperm from other men. Blockers protect fertilizers from the attacker sperm of another man, as well as block fertilizers from getting to the egg.

The hair color men prefer on women most is: same color as their own. It helps a man to identify a child as his.

Children, regardless of which parent they will look like as adults, look like fathers in their first 2 years. Pics of 12 infants, their twelve mothers and 12 fathers, were mixed up
And given to test subjects to sort. 9 fathers were correctly identified, but only 3 mothers.

Anomalies

First:

Humans release pheromones? You need glands to produce pheromones. I don't think we have one.

Second:

Characters in children are produced by the expression of genes, which are recieved from both parents. The dominant gene expresses itself. It can be from either of the parents.

Third:

I really haven't heard that there are type of sperms. I have doubts, but I won't comment.

SEAL sperms


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TheSoulfulBard said:

First:

Humans release pheromones? You need glands to produce pheromones. I don't think we have one.

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I've heard it before, and wikipedia confirmes it: yes, we do.

i_would said:

I've heard it before, and wikipedia confirmes it: yes, we do.

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If you read that article carefully, the validity of the first experiment is under question and the second one is a mere postulate.

TheSoulfulBard said:

If you read that article carefully, the validity of the first experiment is under question and the second one is a mere postulate.

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OK, I didn't read it very carefully indeed. OTOH I've heard about the subject from before the existence of Wikipedia, and am just too lazy to search any deeper.

Considering most (if not all) mammals and other animals do have some kind of pheromones, it is very likely that humans also produce them, one way or another.

i_would said:

Considering most (if not all) mammals and other animals do have some kind of pheromones, it is very likely that humans also produce them, one way or another.

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That's where the knowledge of Evolution and vestigial organs come into play.

Maaaybe- and I do mean maybe- our long past primal ancestors had some glands (like perineum in bunnies) to give out pheromones. I assure you that if such gland existed, it has become dysfunctional by now in the course of evolution.

TheSoulfulBard said:

Maaaybe- and I do mean maybe- our long past primal ancestors had some glands (like perineum in bunnies) to give out pheromones. I assure you that if such gland existed, it has become dysfunctional by now in the course of evolution.

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Does it have to be a separate gland? Humans have sweat glands, most animals don't. Those sweat glands can very well have taken over the function of such glands.

What I do know is that smells are important - it seems for women more so than for men, at least women do have (on average) a better sense of smell than men. How people smell is important in attraction/rejection (in all social interactions, not only the romantic/sexual ones). There's a huge industry based on this wish for people to smell good, often in the process hiding natural body odours of course. Often in erotic stories you will see lines like "his musky smell really turned me on", or other lines related to exciting body odours.

This are smells we consciously pick up. There may be many smells that we don't notice consciously, but that do influence behaviour, including sexual attraction.

i_would said:

Does it have to be a separate gland? Humans have sweat glands, most animals don't. Those sweat glands can very well have taken over the function of such glands...

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First, you need to know that our sweat glands produce only sweat. There is nothing called "Take over the function of releasing pheromones".

The general body odor of humans is due to decomposition of sweat, mucous and sebaceous secretions on our body.

Different smell is due to decompostion of different chemicals in sweat or released body fluid.

Talking about "musky smell", the musk is used as a metaphor for the actual musk scent released by male Musk deers to attract females. Humans do not release musk.

Also pheromones are a necessity for animals having estrous cycle, not the ones menstrual cycle. Humans can breed at any time of the year, unlike many other animals. So we don't need to release pheromones to signal that a female is ready to copulate.

i_would said:

What I do know is that smells are important - it seems for women more so than for men, at least women do have (on average) a better sense of smell than men.

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Back in the days when there was no Walmart and our ancestors had to hunt, women used to forage for food while men hunted. An acute sense of smell was very important to differentiate between poison, rotten and good food.

Not only smell, women can also distinguish between greater shades of the same color than men.

Like I said, these characters were needed back then but not today. Their relevence has diminished greatly as we advanced into higher animals.

i_would said:

This are smells we consciously pick up. There may be many smells that we don't notice consciously, but that do influence behaviour, including sexual attraction.

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Getting turned on is nothing but a cognitive aspect [Cue for StrangeLife to post a hilarious pic ]. Chemicals react with certain parts of your brain and you get turned on.

All chemicals that claim to turn on people are artificially produced. And most of them have been discovered by mistake.

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Personally, I think there's a plot bunny there.