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Old 06-12-2014, 09:28 AM   #1
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Herbal Hard-on: which male enhancers give you the wow?

OK guys and gals I want to host a discussion on the herbal alternatives to Viagra and the various ‘daily dose’ libido enhancers, both marketed ones and the individual tonic herbs and potions that guys experiment with. Amid all the dross and ludicrous promises out there, I have found what really, really works for me. It’ll be different stories for different guys according to age, general health, and frequency of getting to it.

So many of the so-called ‘testimonials’ on the net are clearly fabricated. How about we share some real experience – the good, the bad and the disappointing – on here? I’ll post what I know sometime soon. Meanwhile, here’s to getting rock, and lasting as long as.

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Old 06-12-2014, 10:31 AM   #2
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OK. Tribulus Terrestris. Sold in those fitness freak and body building shops to stimulate testosterone production. I was talking to a guy who runs one of those shops in a British seaside town where a lot of young people from Poland work the season in the hotels. He told me he was for ever running out of stock when these guys got set up for group shagging as their main off-duty recreation, mid afternoons and then nights. Men who were young and fit but not accustomed to two and three birds to pleasure together in big heaps so they bought him out of this stuff. Next morning at breakfast in the hotel we were staying I saw the junior staff in a whole new light!

The one I've tried is by Nutrex, USA firm. "Vitrix Maximum Impact." Pricey! But it sure builds a rage of testosterone in me. For me there's a set-back; I get this stingy eyes sensation like the day after I've used some, so it's not my regular pill to pop.
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Old 06-12-2014, 05:35 PM   #3
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For several years, I tried a lot of the herbal stuff that is supposed to help in that area - saw palmeto, horney goat weed, ginseng, yohimbe, ginkgo, and a mix of all together. None of them had any significant effects for me.

I finally went to the doctor and got some tests done... You guessed it... Low T.

Since I've been prescribed with Fortesta, it's like I'm 16 all over again (but with much more control ).

Nothing beats the real stuff.
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Old 06-13-2014, 03:35 AM   #4
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Great outcome, phoenix!

It was 12 years ago I first tried out one of the 'mix of them all together' [not yohimbe though]. That was the first version of VigRx. It's a daily dose sexual health herbal, not an instant hard-on type thing. The reason was that I noticed that my woman was needing to somehow 'try harder' to reach orgasm in penetrative sex. In a couple of weeks on this stuff I found I had the best kind of hard-on every time and we discovered the bliss of double and triple orgasms for her.

I've more recently needed more than that - I'm getting on! - but it was that initial success that sold the herbal route as effective, for me.
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OK. Tribulus Terrestris. Sold in those fitness freak and body building shops to stimulate testosterone production.
What, the sticker weed? The bane of young bicyclists and barefooters? That shit sure stimulates adrenaline production in all genders, all ages -- a reaction to the sharp, penetrating pain of the thorns piercing one's tender young (or old) flesh. So instead of pulling them out of my toes and tires and just throwing them away, I should have been grinding them up and passing out the powder? G'zzz...
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What, the sticker weed? The bane of young bicyclists and barefooters? That shit sure stimulates adrenaline production in all genders, all ages -- a reaction to the sharp, penetrating pain of the thorns piercing one's tender young (or old) flesh. So instead of pulling them out of my toes and tires and just throwing them away, I should have been grinding them up and passing out the powder? G'zzz...
Someone's making a fortune out of doing just that! - and for a lot of guys it works!
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Time to come clean with what serves me well. I'm a guy who doesn't get it up so readily as I used to but I still want to and need to. The herbal V I use has the most boring name of the lot of them, and no dedicated website. It's called "Extra Strong" subtitled 'food supplement for men'. 450mg capsules and I can't cope with the whole of one; I open it, and save half the contents for the next time. Taste? ghastly. And I don't give a damn because the end result for me is fab. Half a capsule has me ready to go anytime over the next 36 hours, and the effect is not diminished by a drink or three, which is a real bonus. I think most of the stuff in it comes from the little Himalayan kingdom of Bhutan. Ginko Biloba, Rhodiola Sacra, Gingseng, Dodder Seed, Fructus Lycii, Cinnamon. I'm never without. I've more beans to spill but another time.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:24 PM   #8
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210 reads but only two others posting? Shy about this? Come on guys!

Bit more from me meanwhile. I wanna talk YOHIMBE. The West African bark which is NOT included in most of the male enhancement herbal formulas.

Anyway. My last order of 'extra strong' had a free gift in it, one capsule, 1400mg, of PowerZen which I had not heard of. When we had a session together after I had taken this, I noticed - and she noticed - that I was thicker. It was also one of those times when I wanted to carry on thrusting a while, even after shooting my load. I looked up the price of it - pricey! I looked at the ingredients, and, hey ho the thing which was different to what I knew before was "Yohimbe".

I've sourced 500mg capsules of Yohimbe by "eurovital". And I've discovered what the controversy is. This stuff is not gentle on you. First time I took one of these it was evening, and I tell you I did not sleep one wink that night. Also, advice that you must not eat it with cheese or with liver [odd]. Nonetheless, given my good general health I thought I would explore a regime of just a little of this stuff.

For about two weeks now I have had half of a capsule with my breakfast, and when I take [as per a previous post] a half of a capsule of 'Extra Strong' I have a smidgen of the Yohimbe powder too, even if it's evening. Result: no worries with getting to sleep, a minimal about of additional perspiring too but not unpleasantly, and other than that I feel pretty vital - weather? African Bark? who knows.

But hard-ons: I'm achieving a maximum in terms of solidity, angle, girth, and somehow 'weight' [I so love that!] - a maximum I have not known in a lot of years. Those of you who dip into the "did you get laid today" thread in Darkroom Lounge will know one of the consequences of this: my woman wants me over and over; and not only inside her: she's a whole new desire for holding, admiring, and sucking me. There's a fresh touchpaper lit in her arousal, I feel, because she has this big hard ridged cock when she wants it!

Hey, I am not "recommending" Yohimbe. There's loads of statements out there putting it under question as to whether it's a healthy supplement. But on this thread I thought I'd simply tell my story with it thus far, two weeks in.

Way after writing this I am DEFINITELY not recommending Yohimbe. A little while into this short trial I realised that even just a little of it was messing with my body temperature [like I had a fever or something! hot, shivery, hot ..] and also upsetting my slumber pattern. No. No more.

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Old 06-27-2014, 02:05 PM   #9
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Stuff to massage in ...

A while back I saw this classy one from France: "Kolossal - creme de developement du penis" [excuse lack of accents]. Contains all sorts including seven extracts of exotic herbals. Here's the thing: it is utterly lush to massage in! I get this immediate engorging which is not an erection but a lengthening and thickening as my shaft and glans responds to whatever this stuff has in it that gets absorbed fast.

Yeah I'm sure it does something in terms of general girth and readiness and all that stuff, but it's the deliciousness of the treatment which sold me! I saw it in this tiny sex shop in a small city 150 miles from me, and when I looked on the web I saw he was selling it at a big discount. So I phoned the guy and asked how many bottles he had in. Just four. So I ordered the lot from him. It's lasting for months!
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:15 PM   #10
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I like l arginine. It gets more nitric oxide in the blood stream and increases blood flow. Makes you strong like hulk.
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I like l arginine. It gets more nitric oxide in the blood stream and increases blood flow. Makes you strong like hulk.
Cheers for posting, Remy. I've spotted that l arginine is in most of the daily dose male enhancement supplements, including the one I take daily just now which is John Lawrence's PHGH.

So how do you take yours? Is it a 'neat' supply of the stuff un-mixed with other?
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Old 07-08-2014, 01:42 PM   #12
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I've tried various ones (mostly the cheap stuff purchasable in pub toilets) and never felt any effect. I reckon most aphrodisiacs work as placebos, so I reckon I might have more luck if I actually believed they were going to do something.
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I've tried various ones (mostly the cheap stuff purchasable in pub toilets) and never felt any effect. I reckon most aphrodisiacs work as placebos, so I reckon I might have more luck if I actually believed they were going to do something.
Klayton, I've discovered the massive difference between the sawdust that several outfits promote, and especially in gents machines etc, and the handful of herbal Vs which are researched and made to high standards - there really is a difference, which you have to pay for, and ... well, 'massive' is the word for it, in my experience. It is way beyond placebo in my case!

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Any of you guys take Extenze as a daily dose male enhancer?

I got a freebie of a month's supply with my order of a herbal v, and I've taken one for six days now, instead of the PHGH I mentioned above. And I'm getting the impression it doing me goood. Various sites slate it for containing yohimbe, but I'm feeling fine and sleeping well and ... rising pretty darned well too ...

In the end I decided to jack in the trial of this one too ...

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Old 09-18-2014, 04:55 PM   #15
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I went and saw the doc just to get cialis, 20mg. I break it in half and take it. No matter how much drinking and fucking, and after a little rest. Back up again, even the next morning, which leads to a morning session. That stuff is great!
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Wellman Prostace by Vitabiotics

I've been three months now on a 'mainstream' men's daily supplement and for me it's more effective than the 'niche' supplements I have mentioned in earlier posts here. In the UK it's available in Boots the Chemist. Wellman Prostace. There are several Wellman supplements so note this specific one. Like the whole range of Wellman products they are for general wellbeing and, in this case, 'male reproductive health'.

I know there may be other factors at work but ...
I have this calm, confident vibrancy about me. It serves me well when there's anything suggestive between me and my woman; the sense of desire emerges and spreads through me, somehow more readily, and without any sideline anxieties.

As you may have realized from previous posts, I do mostly need something to counter ED [pretty common at 61 and why not be open about it!]. When, about a year ago, I first tried viagra, I discovered that while it sorts the 'plumbing' issue very effectively, it contributes nothing to help a diminished libido. That's why I have explored the herbal equivalent Vs, and hence my recommendation of 'Extra Strong' as in a previous post.

But now, taking Wellman Prostace daily, there is no problem at all with my libido - I'd say it's as strong as when I was 30. So, before sex, I'm back to viagra. I got it first on the net from Mumbai as it's not available without prescription in the UK. But now I have a prescription from my doctor. Worth noting that the Mumbai stuff and the UK NHS-approved stuff is exactly the same in terms of its effectiveness and its [for me minimal] side effects.

So: Wellman tablets with my lunch each day, and a couple of Blue Pills in my jeans key-pocket to pop when required - I feel I'm sorted!
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Just wanted to say thank you for this post!!! The new bloke I've been seeing has some issues with ED.. we've talked a little bit about it.. and he's been taking ginseng to help.. I hope I can convince him of what I've read here! Thank you!
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I'm 50 and have low testosterone. I don't have ED, although as I've gotten older sometimes I'm not the proverbial railroad spike that I used to be.

I've tried creams and pills. My wife bought me an herbal "Testosterone supplement" containing L-Arganine and a few other things. I didn't notice any difference after a month so I stopped taking them. I'll have to see if I can find one of the bottles to get a name.

My schedule makes it difficult to eat right, exercise, or sleep - but when I manage to do that I get harder easier and am more interested in sex. Bannanas seem to have a positive affect, presumably because of the zinc.

Prescription testosterone cream does a good job of balancing my mood and energy.
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Great thread I watch it. I am nearly 50 and experience mild issues from time to time as well. Currently I am using L-Arginine and that seems to help. I tried Viagra once but did not enjoy the experience (good hard-on, pathetic orgasm - I could barely come). I am curious about Cialis and may investigate that.

My main issue is recovery time, I have an amazing lover right now (I have been really fortunate in this department for many years now, I have a new winning formula for finding thrilling partners) and my mind is willing but I can barely perform twice in a session. Three is ultra rare. I do not want to disappoint her ever.

I am also wondering if I have low T?

The biggest improvement I experienced sexually was a healthier lifestyle (regular exercise and changed diet) but I really want the cock I had when I was 18-25 again of course especially now with the wild partners I have and have had in the last 15 years.
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Just wanted to say thank you for this post!! ...
Elaya, just a possibility: This guy you have: would he play with you, as the prelude he needs to get erect? For me, giving my woman some delicious attention at her honey with my fingers is as arousing as being on the receiving end of oral from her - might that work for him and for you both?
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pplwatching, from what I've deduced, the various different testo boosts around have wildly different effects on various men, so it's a case of trial and error until you find the one that does it for you?
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Hi Simon, Great thread ...
Cosmic_Peach, appreciated! Grand you have this amazing woman! Are you into training yourself to have a real deep satisfaction with a sex session without yourself cumming? For me, that has been the BIG answer to the inevitable business of a lengthening refraction period after ejaculation. I've come to the point that I utterly adore it if I have given her a couple of orgasms and I don't cum myself, knowing that: a) I can stay massive in her as we come down from what we've been doing, and b) that I will get massive again should she be up for a round two half and hour or a couple or four hours later. I find that intensely satisfying. Another thing: just to note that for me, viagra does not diminish my orgasm at all. Was it that, the time you tried it, or some other reason that time? Just a thought.
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Cosmic_Peach, appreciated! Grand you have this amazing woman! Are you into training yourself to have a real deep satisfaction with a sex session without yourself cumming? For me, that has been the BIG answer to the inevitable business of a lengthening refraction period after ejaculation. I've come to the point that I utterly adore it if I have given her a couple of orgasms and I don't cum myself, knowing that: a) I can stay massive in her as we come down from what we've been doing, and b) that I will get massive again should she be up for a round two half and hour or a couple or four hours later. I find that intensely satisfying. Another thing: just to note that for me, viagra does not diminish my orgasm at all. Was it that, the time you tried it, or some other reason that time? Just a thought.
Without cumming - For sure, that is exactly how it goes down. I know once I pull the trigger I am done so I prolong as long as I can. It is appreciated of course and makes for fantastic sex but my cumming is important to my lover as well as you may suspect. I need to be mindful of waiting too long because even though I am still aroused mentally, physically things start to soften.

Hours - Yes, except for "quicky" type situations or in the car / public that is de rigueur so to speak.

Viagra - Interesting. Other male friends reported my experience as well. It was disquieting for me, I was on the edge and just stayed there for a long time, when I finally came it was a lame little dribble (and I had been saving up). I am not adverse to trying again but will try Cialis first I think. As far as I recall nothing else was afoot i.e. mind not on task, physically under the weather etc.
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I am a healthy 63 year old, perfect blood pressure and no erectile issues. I was experiencing enlarged prostate issue, urgency and frequent urination. Doc prescribed Cialis, 5 mg......Wow multiple erections every night, long duration and to the point of being painful. Started cutting them in half. better but sometimes painful and long lasting erections. I can only wake up the wife so many times - sometimes I JO 3 or 4 times per day. I now take the 2.5 mg and should probably cut them in half and see if it still takes care of the bph issues.
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pplwatching, from what I've deduced, the various different testo boosts around have wildly different effects on various men, so it's a case of trial and error until you find the one that does it for you?
I think a lot of the appeal of pills is the result of clever marketing. I have read some review posts on other forums. It definately seems to be the case that everyone's milage varies, but in my case I own a lot of the problem. I did a lot of hiking last year and my sex drive and erections seemed to benefit. I'm not doing my part right now to stay in shape right now, manage stress, or be well rested so I'm not doing my body or sex life any favors. Going back to school hasn't helped in any of those departments, but we all make sacrifices for things that are important to us.

Prescription testosterone cream has measurably helped balance my hormones, but I thought that it might when I first read about it. When I apply sunscreen I can taste it, so I knew that absorbing it wouldn't be a problem. I don't think that it's reasonable to expect the cream or pills to replace my diet, exercise, and life style choices. Some of my problem is hormonal but some is just managing my time more effectively.

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OK my reflections on something that happened for me yesterday.

We've had a steamy lead-in in the living room, her enjoying my boner through my pants and me getting plenty of evidence on two fingers of how ready she is. We go upstairs. We strip. She gets seriously delicious down on me. We go for the fuck. And ... I go soft. She's good about it. I spend some time 'being good about it' with other parts of my body pleasuring her. She enjoys though she does not approach a climax. We take some time to look together at an illustrated kama sutra book we have, real classy photos. Boner is back so we go for the fuck. And ... I go soft. This time I'm saying "Love, I'm defeated. We've got to leave it." So we do.

Did I take viagra the right time before this? Yes. Had I cum in the previous 24 hours? No. Had I slept well the night before? Yes. Does she turn me on like crazy all these years into our relationship? Yes. Do I feel nervous about 'performing well' with her? Hey, 38 years in and I really am passed that!

So what on earth? What the fucking hell on earth??

It was mid evening and we came back downstairs. We talked, among other things about a big deal for me work-wise during this week coming and I realised, as I spoke about it, that I was anxious - really anxious - and hadn't spotted that this, with some other worries about stuff not sorted, was, quite subconsciously, knorring away there in my head and stomach.

I took a couple of "Kalms" - we have them from our local herbal health food store. We watched a bit of telly. I came on Lit briefly, where as happens I had a short but hot exchange with a woman who plays around a lot. Wow the tent in my pants!

My woman had gone to bed to read and "wait for you if you want to join me, darling".

I did join her. We made out. She climbed on me. I was rock solid and huge. I lasted past her most fabulous orgasmic outburst. Then I came so profoundly that I set myself off on a choking fit but that's another story!

I'm sharing all this because I feel it will help me to understand myself better when it is articulated here. I do hope that it may also help others, men, and women. Cheers my friends and thanks for reading.

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