"A thing of value"

Desiremakesmeweak said:

And any smartass who thinks people won't be coming for them if they are still part of the scam once this thing is fully exposed is quite welcome to leave his idiot comment and INSTANT astro-turf troll-farm response right here.

Because if you think no one will be going back through the archives later on, you're wrong.

Brennan is an outright criminal.

Keep it up, sonny.

All these embargoes that we have all been laboring under were lifted last night, so, keep it up. You'll get yours. It's coming.

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Trump laundered money through Russia.

You're right, people get what's coming to them.

Desiremakesmeweak said:

And you're a dumb bunny because anyone here that knows me knows that I was 1. the first person EVER ANYWHERE to spell out who Guccifer 2.0 is; 2. the first person absolutely ANYWHERE who proposed that there were MI6 agents inside the Trump Campaign working for a shadowy 'extra-governmental clique;' 3. spelled out they were part of the 'Five Eyes' group, and I am also the exact actual person who fed the bs to Christopher Steele in the first place - which he scooped up being the fool that he always was.

And even right now, I am the only person I know, outside of any formal active task group within the Intelligence circles, who knows ALL the names of the moles inside (or close to) the Trump Campaign, and, I even know who did the strategic thinking to place them there. And, since the embargo was lifted, I can even say...

But no apology will ever come from you, ya clown, because you are as dumb and as gutless as eggs.

Why don't you go through my 'works of fiction' posted right here over the last five years... Funny how Brennan specified that the 'collusion' had been taking place over five years...

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Delusions of importance.

richard_daily said:

The payment to stormy daniels was a thing of value to trump, he knew about it, and he accepted it.

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The payment to Daniels was not a thing "given to" Trump IF he contracted with his attorney for "legal services" which Trump knew he was going to pay for eventually. In the same way that your credit card company does NOT "give you" a meal in a restaurant prior to your paying off the credit card balance.

It would only be a gift to Trump if you believe Cohen that he undertook the payment out of his own pocket without Trump's knowledge. And if it was without Trump's knowledge that also fails a campaign finance violation under the statute.

It really depends on whether you wish to believe the second lie or the first (likely) truth. And lying about either one while not under oath is clearly unethical, but also not criminal.

Of course we know the man is an accomplished liar. And that he is impervious to scandal. Because he doesn't care about either one in ways that most normal people would. I wish he did, but he doesn't.

And you guys can't get your head around that.

Rightguide said:

The Inspector General's report is complete and will be released shortly. I predict it will either precipitate the prosecution of, or completely wreck the careers of, several top Obama administration figures.

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Wrong thread

Rightguide said:

The Inspector General's report is complete and will be released shortly. I predict it will either precipitate the prosecution of, or completely wreck the careers of, several top Obama administration figures.

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You're exactly right. And there will be further consequences flowing... Including to astro-turfers who show up even in back-alley places like HERE.

"Delusions of importance."

Could be.

Funny, though, how Brennan is gone, and Trump is in.

And I'm about to POUND a few people all over the internet and in the media - and you'd know me if you saw my face.

BoyNextDoor said:

Wrong thread

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The important thing for you to understand is the Mueller probe is fundamentally fraudulent and all of it's findings are "fruit of the poisonous tree."

Desiremakesmeweak said:

"Delusions of importance."

Could be.

Funny, though, how Brennan is gone, and Trump is in.

And I'm about to POUND a few people all over the internet and in the media - and you'd know me if you saw my face.

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No one knows you, and no one cares about you.

You think you're of value in some way, and that you have important and valuable ideas.

You don't.


The only thing you're going to POUND is your tiny dick.

"Trump laundered money through Russia."

No he didn't.

richard_daily said:

No one knows you, and no one cares about you.

You think you're of value in some way, and that you have important and valuable ideas.

You don't.


The only thing you're going to POUND is your tiny dick.

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Hehehe. 'Important and valuable ideas?!' Who the fuckin' hell needs those?!

Like I said - Brennan is out, Hillary is out, Valerie Jarrett is VERY OUT (wonderful how she has silently crept away in the dead of the media circus's fake night on truth, to Kuwait from where you will never hear from her again).

And we have only little twerps left around, to bleat and try their hand at piss-weak insults. Keep it up. You're about to find out.

Rightguide said:

The important thing for you to understand is the Mueller probe is fundamentally fraudulent and all of it's findings are "fruit of the poisonous tree."

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It is more important that you understand that is not true.

Equally as important you need to understand that no one is trying to invalidate the election.

Hillary - gone.

Obama - gone.

Jarrett - gone.

Brennan - gone.

Comey - gone.

McCain - lol (too bad)

Mueller - let's see what ya got...

Personally, I've just got 'delusions of something I forget what was said,' and pretensions to what was it? - oh yeah 'important and valuable ideas.'

What a laugh. Hey dude, shake your head to see if it is still attached to your body there.

Nobody absolutely NEEDS to understand anything.

There are only actual winners and actual losers in this game right now.

Actual. Winners.

And losers.

BoyNextDoor said:

It is more important that you understand that is not true.

Equally as important you need to understand that no one is trying to invalidate the election.

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Not anymore, but Silly Hilly and her minions were trying up until Trump's inauguration.

And personally, I don't mind hearing more attempts at insults from the losers.

After all, I 'could' be Milo Yanni-watsisname. Or Milo Laurel.

'Oh yes, beat me beat me some more, flog me with your soggy wet NYT rolled up newspaper.'

BoyNextDoor said:

It is more important that you understand that is not true.

Equally as important you need to understand that no one is trying to invalidate the election.

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Everything I said is true. The evidence alleging probable cause to initiate the original investigation was fraudulent, period. The IG Report will name Sally Yates as the submitting authority.

Desiremakesmeweak said:

And personally, I don't mind hearing more attempts at insults from the losers.

After all, I 'could' be Milo Yanni-watsisname. Or Milo Laurel.

'Oh yes, beat me beat me some more, flog me with your soggy wet NYT rolled up newspaper.'

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Here they use wet noodles.

Rightguide said:

Here they use wet noodles.

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Well in that case at least I know you're not Louise Mensch - because she DOES come in here (this board) every now and then under an assumed name obviously, and she does NOT use wet noodles!!!

I've got to go - so thanks for the lively er, discussion. Any insults behind my back will be... expected. With wet noodles.

richard_daily said:

The payment to stormy daniels was a thing of value to trump, he knew about it, and he accepted it.

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I suppose $130,000 is a thing of value, but so what. As I understand it, the money was given to Stormy by Trump's lawyer, who was later compensated for the payment. Why should this concern anybody, unless it was fraudulently reported as a tax deduction or a business expense on FITR.

A few years ago, I gave my granddaughter a wedding gift, (not $130,000) but I didn't report this anywhere, except to my wife. This was a personal expenditure, as was the money given to Stormy Daniels.

You might think I should be irked by the POTUS giving money to a person of her low character. Hell, her character isn't as low as that of Trump.

Boxlicker101 said:

I suppose $130,000 is a thing of value, but so what. As I understand it, the money was given to Stormy by Trump's lawyer, who was later compensated for the payment. Why should this concern anybody, unless it was fraudulently reported as a tax deduction or a business expense on FITR.

A few years ago, I gave my granddaughter a wedding gift, (not $130,000) but I didn't report this anywhere, except to my wife. This was a personal expenditure, as was the money given to Stormy Daniels.

You might think I should be irked by the POTUS giving money to a person of her low character. Hell, her character isn't as low as that of Trump.

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Rightguide said:

The Inspector General's report is complete and will be released shortly. I predict it will either precipitate the prosecution of, or completely wreck the careers of, several top Obama administration figures.

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You keep saying that but it never happens.

BoyNextDoor said:

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I find it interesting that something as easily understood as $130,000 payment is somehow a thing that needs to be massaged by every lame dick wannabe legal expert into a criminal offense committed by Trump.

IF it was so criminal, we wouldn't NEED every lame dick wannabe legal expert expounding on his/her own theories on WHY it's criminal. Instead, we'd all know it was from the get-go. So, the more noise from the lame dick wannabe legal experts the more likely it is that there's nothing there. Not even smoke or mirrors.

I did read just a few minutes ago where the ethics office has referred the matter to the DOJ for prosecution but I don't see it going anywhere. Though Mueller probably had a copy of the referral before the printer toner hit the paper.

Rightguide said:

The Inspector General's report is complete and will be released shortly. I predict it will either precipitate the prosecution of, or completely wreck the careers of, several top Obama administration figures.

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That might be projected hope.
We really won't know what's in it until we see it, and I don't think that will be anytime soon. The people who do get to see it will immediately begin spinning it and both teams will latch onto their spin as soon as it is out there and will be completely unconcerned as to what the facts are.
All we are going to be presented with is the out-of-context snippets they want to use to manipulate and massage.

I blame Trumbama.

WoundedKnee said:

That might be projected hope.

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Well, it was a prediction.