Cultured and intelligent Englishman looking for interesting lady correspondent

Barrista said:

Well then, friend, I join the person who wisely asked you for it in having this insane belief that people who approach one claiming overtly that they are female (when this has been specified as a requirement) should actually be telling the truth.

I'm aware that honesty and truthfulness are in short supply on the net but there still exists this hard core of lunatics like yours truly who seem to prize it. Weird, eh?

You, clearly, are not of that number...

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KimGordon67 said:

I don't think I'd provide 'verification' if it was asked for either ... and it has been asked for in the past, and I've just refused. Seems like a good way of missing out on some potentially interesting people.

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Barrista said:

Well then, friend, I join the person who wisely asked you for it in having this insane belief that people who approach one claiming overtly that they are female (when this has been specified as a requirement) should actually be telling the truth.

I'm aware that honesty and truthfulness are in short supply on the net but there still exists this hard core of lunatics like yours truly who seem to prize it. Weird, eh?

You, clearly, are not of that number...

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formertroll said:

so on the topic of verification, to me if someone is interesting on PM they go to the "other apps" department and chat on skype or kik or hangouts or tumbler or whatever people are using nowadays, if they are still interesting within that sort of space they become phone/audio friends, at that point verification is relatively easy...but if they aren't close friends to begin with why would verification even matter?

I invite PMs from anyone...if they are interesting I keep chatting, if they are not, I don't. nothing to do with looks or verifications or anything, either we get along or we don't.

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Barrista said:

... which, for the benefit of those of us whose native language is English, means..?

Ok, for the hard of understanding among us:

1. I ask specifically for a female correspondent. My reasons are my own but, for the sake of argument, let us say that they have something to do with wanting the female take on the matters under discussion.

2. I am approached by a person who claims they ARE female, having presumably read my ad and understood my requirement.

3. This person, having been reminded of the requirement and asked very politely for the necessary verification, a process which might reasonably be expected to involve negligible cost, effort and perhaps two minutes of their time, refuses or disappears in a cloud of dust.

This is a phenomenon which has now happened - I have checked - some seventeen times since I first put up the ad. Of these, I am in some small doubt about one person only... and even they have performed the well-known disappearing act.

You may wish, for your own reasons no doubt, to invent excuses for what these people do or to try to somehow find a valid reason for their behaviour... but I'm afraid I prefer to go with the obvious conclusion.

I am becoming increasingly of the opinion that there are almost NO females visiting Literotica, at least none who might be interested in the kind of correspondence I offer. By contrast, I suspect that the number of 'Johns in frocks' considerably outdistances that of actual females on the site.

Whenever you read a posting on here or are approached by anyone claiming overtly to be female, you should bear this in mind, and particularly with regard to those with very little posting history. These are almost certainly part of the (mainly) gay male fraud pack. Caveat emptor.

That is why I need this small reassurance. I am not remotely interested in becoming some idiot's wank fodder.

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KimGordon67 said:

No, the women are just sick of being asked to satisfy some guy's need for personally created porn in the form of a tit shot or whatever other form of 'verification' you're requesting. You haven't have had SEVENTEEN guys hitting on you - you've had maybe ONE guy hitting on you, and 16 actual women who don't want to be required to produce a tit shot on demand for someone they barely know.

In all my years of using Lit and other online meeting places of a sexual nature, I think only one guy has ever demanded proof of my femaleness. That conversation did not last long.

If you can't tell from the posts that a woman makes on here in public fora whether they are actually ARE a woman or not, then I might suggest that you're not that familiar with the female half of the species.

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Barrista said:

And I suggest to you that there are literally hundreds of these false females plying their trade here on Lit. I am not so naive as to make sweeping judgements - this assessment is based on long and careful observation of message writing styles by someone who, unlike yourself, knows both their English... and human motivations.

The number of actual, from-birth, genuine females visiting this site is miniscule. This is an observable fact.

Kindly do not bother attempting to cross intellectual swords with me. You possess neither the sharpness of weapon nor the skill of wielding...

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KimGordon67 said:

Wow ... and you wonder why women aren't interested in you?

Maybe if you put a bit of work in and moved beyond just posting a persona and waiting for the messages, you'd find someone worthy of your intellect, and also find out a bit about THEM.
Or just continue to work on the basis that any woman in here needs to 'prove themselves' in order to warrant your attention ... that approach has clearly been working out really well for you. Good luck finding that unicorn.

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Barrista said:

Wow...and you wonder why someone can possibly belittle your intellect?

Maybe if you had actually bothered READING my post of 8th August instead of making unwarranted assumptions, you'd find people less scathing of your abilities.

I had explained, not that you're overly concerned about facts, that these morons had approached ME in response to my ad which explicitly asks for female respondents. They then proceeded to represent themselves as female. .. up to the point when they were asked, very politely, for verification. Got it now? I did not pester anyone. Nobody was forced at gunpoint to answer my ad - which was very clear in its requirements.

I repeat: there are almost no authentic females visiting this site. It is wall-to-wall males talking to other males, often in an unsuspecting context. Now run along and take your less than considerable powers of basic logic with you.

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KimGordon67 said:

My logic is working just fine. Maybe you should read things yourself - I never even vaguely implied that you were 'pestering' anyone.
And regarding intellect ... I'm not the one who is complaining about their lack of success, but just continuing to the do the same thing and expecting a different result.
Trust me, there are plenty of 'real' women in here (whatever that actually means) - I have interactions with them of varying lengths and nature all the time. Do you think that just maybe it's your attitude that's putting them off ... along with what I assume is a fairly prompt request for photographic evidence of anatomy, or alternatively personal documentation - neither of which most women would send to someone they barely know.

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Barrista said:

You, pal, are the one making unjustified assumptions, such as the interesting thought that I am asking for 'photos of female anatomy' or 'personal documentation', neither of which is the case.

Moreover, any unbiased, third-party observer of this situation will realise full well that I am complaining not about 'lack of success' but rather about deliberate, planned deceit and lying, something YOU appear interestingly prompt and happy to defend...

Go away, stop trying to hi-jack my thread with your unsolicited and risible attempts to defend the indefensible, and try putting up your own threads, perhaps stating how wonderful it is that the site is swarming with genuine females. That will give us all a laugh...

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