Non-consent experiences

N2outdoors said:

I want to indulge one of my wife's most prevalent fantasies, which is non-consent. I am seeking advice from women and men who have experience in acting out this type of scenario. In your experience, what made it more realistic, exciting, fulfilling, etc. please provide details on setting it up, how much fore warning did the "victim" have? Ladies, please explain what actions the "suspect" took that made it more exciting for you. Also, are there any decent non-consent movies available? The only ones I have found are pretty corny.

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Doug_Hinson said:

You have to be careful about non-consent; there can be legal issues involved. There was a guy in Idaho, (or one of those states); his wife’s fantasy was to be raped. So, to make his wife’s fantasy come true, he had his friend sneak into his house while he was gone, and rape his wife. No problem, right? His wife thought she had been raped for real, and called the police. The police responded and investigated the crime, then arrested the husband and his friend. Turns out, in most states a wife can’t give consent after the fact, only before. (If she gives consent before, it’s not rape, it’s role-play) Now, both the husband and his friend are sitting in prison for trying to do something his wife said she wanted. When it involves something that may be a legal grey area, I would check with an attorney before I stuck my neck out too far.

But then, that brings up a quandary. If she gives consent before, it can’t truly be non-consent, only a surprise. She will know it’s coming, just not when. Then when it happens, it’s not really a surprise. She already knew it was going to happen. I think you might want to give it some thought before you leap off that cliff.

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N2outdoors said:

Let me clarify, this is role play with me as the suspect. I could involve another person and she has agreed to that with our established limitations, by that is not what I am planning. I should have been more specific. Thanks for your concern.

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SissySalina said:

May a sissy offer some advice?
As stated this type of thing can become a legal mire.

To start with both need to sit down and discuss the whole thing. It would help if this discussion produced a dated document with general terms and conditions discussed and signed by both parties.
One thing should be 2 safe words: first a safe word that would let Her know that the person attempting to control Her is you. Second would be a normal safe word for either party to use if they felt the situation needed to end immediately.
This probably be the best way to start.

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N2outdoors said:

I want to indulge one of my wife's most prevalent fantasies, which is non-consent. I am seeking advice from women and men who have experience in acting out this type of scenario. In your experience, what made it more realistic, exciting, fulfilling, etc. please provide details on setting it up, how much fore warning did the "victim" have? Ladies, please explain what actions the "suspect" took that made it more exciting for you. Also, are there any decent non-consent movies available? The only ones I have found are pretty corny.

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SashaGaga999 said:

Goodness, this thread got pretty serious pretty fast!

To digress back to the original question, I have some experience playing the victim in a few different non-consent scenarios. I've done it with several different guys, so I've had a range of experiences, both successful and less so. It can be really thrilling getting to fight back as hard as I can (but still be overpowered).

For me, a few factors made the biggest difference as far as how successful it was. One was lots of planning and set up, and two was full commitment from the guy I was doing it with.

For the first point, planning can be a HUGE part of the fun of this. Discussing scenarios that the two of you want to play out, and then fine tuning the specific details is like a form of foreplay in-and-of itself. Beyond that, if you have a really good setup, then when you're actually doing the role play, it is just that much more immersive and believable to the both of you--which makes it that much more fun and fulfilling!

I'd encourage your wife to really try and "look the part." It definitely added to the experience for both me and my partners when I'd dress up in a way that was in line with the scenario. For instance, one scenario someone wanted to do was to abduct me when I was trying to find my car late one night after the club/bars. So I got really dressed up--spent an hour and did my full makeup/hair, wore heels and a short, shiny dress. I also did a few shots to just make it that much more realistic.

Another part of planning is setting up the actual physical scenario, and if you can, I definitely suggest trying to make it as real as possible. For the one I was discussing above, we went to an actual parking garage that we new for a fact didn't have cameras etc, then I got out and wandered around for 10-15 minutes pretending to look for my car before "running into" the suspect, then we went from there. Its not always practical to go out into the world, especially when part of the scenario looks so suspicious, so excercise judgement and when in doubt, just do it at home.

Now, the other big factor that impacted how the role play went down was whether or not the guy was committed. Some of the guys I've done non-con stuff with were REALLY into it, totally got into character and were very forceful and deliberate. But some guys, even though they were excited leading up to it, got a bit nervous when we were actually playing things out. It also helped when they could talk in character: order me around, tell me to shut up, get in the van, etc etc. More than anything just relax and have fun with it.

I think some guys just aren't used to being able to be completely so strong/in control. So make sure you're really up for it! With one guy I'd be playing out a scenario, and I'd be fighting back and it would be great, then he'd suddenly stop and go "Ohh! Are you okay?"

Lolol, its like, yeah, I'm okay--if I wasn't I would've used the safe word!!!

I also really enjoyed it when they used real props. Like for abductions putting a pillowcase or other dark bag over her head will add a lot to it. I also suggest using zip-ties for quick bindings.

For me it was most fun when the guys were being REALLY rough and forceful and really using their strength to overpower me, pick me up, throw me around, hold me down, etc.

By non consent movies, do you mean ones with a plotline? Or just ones where the victim gets to fight back? One of my personal favorites is called Taking Down Bobbi Starr (too lazy to link you, sorry), although I'm not sure thats what you're looking for.

Let me know if i can go into anything in more detail!

Happy hunting!

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Doug_Hinson said:

You have to be careful about non-consent; there can be legal issues involved. There was a guy in Idaho, (or one of those states); his wife’s fantasy was to be raped. So, to make his wife’s fantasy come true, he had his friend sneak into his house while he was gone, and rape his wife. No problem, right? His wife thought she had been raped for real, and called the police.

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But then, that brings up a quandary. If she gives consent before, it can’t truly be non-consent, only a surprise. She will know it’s coming, just not when. Then when it happens, it’s not really a surprise. She already knew it was going to happen.

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Bramblethorn said:

...sounds like she was raped "for real". This isn't just a legal technicality; just because somebody discusses a thing as a fantasy doesn't mean they have consented to this. There are plenty of people who fantasize about rape who don't want it to happen IRL, and others who might be okay with that but want to know in advance. .

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