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Old 09-22-2017, 10:51 AM   #1
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Republican moron learns to love free health care when his ass is on the line!

These stories start out as they always do, with a Conservative bitching about how evil it is for poor people to be given taxpayer funded access to health care:



And then shit happens.



And his fellow Conservatives turn on him, despite the fact that he's doing the Conservative thing and asking for charity to support him:


Stuck and fucked and shit out of luck, he finally discovers the Light Side of the Force:


And so another Conservative learns a hard lesson in life:


The end.
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A Liberal is a former Conservative whose pockets come up empty when they need money to survive.
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:13 PM   #3
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This whole free healthcare shit is ridiculous. It's not free. You work, you pay into it. So what if unemployed people reap the benefits? Old people will benefit more than anyone. Seems like a no brainer to anyone with compassion.

*but the cunt's church has bake sales for Haitians, we already do so much*
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Healthcare SHOULD be free for everyone or not free for anyone. It's that simple. Your life should not carry a price. The U.S. is such a screwed up country in our healthcare system that we are one of the few countries in the west (if not the only one) who still doesn't have a universal healthcare system. *Shakes head* I'm a proud liberal, but I'm glad John McCain is resisting the Republicans to get this Trumpcare in the door.
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Healthcare SHOULD be free for everyone or not free for anyone. It's that simple. Your life should not carry a price. The U.S. is such a screwed up country in our healthcare system that we are one of the few countries in the west (if not the only one) who still doesn't have a universal healthcare system. *Shakes head* I'm a proud liberal, but I'm glad John McCain is resisting the Republicans to get this Trumpcare in the door.
I'll applaud him when his "no" vote has come across. I don't trust him.
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Old 09-23-2017, 12:10 AM   #6
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A Liberal is a former Conservative whose pockets come up empty when they need money to survive.
Wrong and you're not even talking about liberals....who are about as pro socialized HC as conservatives.


Definition of liberalism

1 :the quality or state of being liberal
b :a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard (see gold standard 1)
c :a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy (see autonomy 2) of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liberalism

I highlighted the core and defining tenants of liberalism for you.

Liberals are stone cold capitalist who put individual liberty pretty much at the forefront of their political ideology right next to equal treatment under the law.

Definition of socialist

1 : one who advocates or practices socialism
2 capitalized :a member of a party or political group advocating socialism

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialist

Liberals don't want socialism....socialist do.


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Your life should not carry a price.
Most don't....but the reality of the world is that goods and services do carry a price.

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The U.S. is such a screwed up country in our healthcare system that we are one of the few countries in the west (if not the only one) who still doesn't have a universal healthcare system. *Shakes head*
That's because we have societal principals and ideals that so many of us think are worthy of consideration. Like freedom.

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I'm a proud liberal, but I'm glad John McCain is resisting the Republicans to get this Trumpcare in the door.
Sound more like a socialist than a liberal but ok.....

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That's because we have societal principals and ideals that so many of us think are worthy of consideration. Like freedom.
Freedom to die if you're too poor to afford care.

Yeah, fuck your definition of freedom, I'd rather be alive, thanks.
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Old 09-23-2017, 07:33 PM   #8
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This whole free healthcare shit is ridiculous. It's not free. You work, you pay into it. So what if unemployed people reap the benefits? Old people will benefit more than anyone. Seems like a no brainer to anyone with compassion.
At least you got the part about it not being free right.

The point is, that is my money being taken from me. It's not being used to make or repair roads, it's not being used to support national parks, it's not being used to keep the airports open and prevent planes from crashing into one another.

It has nothing to do with compassion. It's about the government taking money I've earned and literally handing it over to people who a) don't want to work, b) refuse to work, or c) who do not have to change their lifestyle of smoking, drinking, drug use and/or obesity.

Here's a question: how much money have you personally handed over to someone who has a medical bill? Not to a charity, not to a foundation, not Gofundme or anything of the sort. Physically handing over a wad of cash or check or something similar.

If you haven't done that yourself you shouldn't expect other people to be forced to do so.

As a side note, since that money is being taken from me, it's money I've lost. I can never get that money back. It can't be used for something I want and/or need such as a new car, a computer, food, housing or clothing. It's gone. By taking that money from me, it depresses the economy since I'm not spending it. And no, the health insurance companies are not going to spend it for me.

The reason our healthcare is so expensive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeDOQpfaUc8
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At least you got the part about it not being free right.

The point is, that is my money being taken from me. It's not being used to make or repair roads, it's not being used to support national parks, it's not being used to keep the airports open and prevent planes from crashing into one another.

It has nothing to do with compassion. It's about the government taking money I've earned and literally handing it over to people who a) don't want to work, b) refuse to work, or c) who do not have to change their lifestyle of smoking, drinking, drug use and/or obesity.

Here's a question: how much money have you personally handed over to someone who has a medical bill? Not to a charity, not to a foundation, not Gofundme or anything of the sort. Physically handing over a wad of cash or check or something similar.

If you haven't done that yourself you shouldn't expect other people to be forced to do so.

As a side note, since that money is being taken from me, it's money I've lost. I can never get that money back. It can't be used for something I want and/or need such as a new car, a computer, food, housing or clothing. It's gone. By taking that money from me, it depresses the economy since I'm not spending it. And no, the health insurance companies are not going to spend it for me.

The reason our healthcare is so expensive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeDOQpfaUc8
Shut up. I covered the typical conservative aspect of it. I know how you think. If you don't think a healthy population is a good thing for a country to have in order to prosper, whatever. I don't waste time arguing and trying to convince people to change their minds, I just laugh at their idiocy..
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The idiot actually here is you.

And it's not coz you're stupid, no. It's something else.

I gonna go drink to that.
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Health care is not free.
And maybe I'm reading it wrong, but the gay Republican example cited here had insurance but it wasn't accepted at the hospital where he was taken after the car wreck.
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Freedom to die if you're too poor to afford care.
Yes....freedom to spend my time and money how I want and suffer the consequences of those choices.

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Yeah, fuck your definition of freedom, I'd rather be alive, thanks.
I like having both, hope they give the freedom back sometime soon.

If you can't make it without the nanny state wiping your ass maybe you should move to a place with a better nanny to better care for you.
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Shut up. I covered the typical conservative aspect of it. I know how you think.
LOL the fuckin' arrogance and smug.....legendary levels of smug.

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If you don't think a healthy population is a good thing for a country to have in order to prosper, whatever. I don't waste time arguing and trying to convince people to change their minds, I just laugh at their idiocy..
The healthy population aspect has fuck all to do with the conservative, liberal or libertarian arguments against socializing the HC industry/market Mr. "I know how you think." LOL
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Shut up. I covered the typical conservative aspect of it. I know how you think. If you don't think a healthy population is a good thing for a country to have in order to prosper, whatever. I don't waste time arguing and trying to convince people to change their minds, I just laugh at their idiocy..
If the idea is to have a healthy population and you think it's acceptable for the government to force people to hand over their money for no reason, then let's do it right.

The government will mandate every obese person either lose weight on their own or undergo stomach banding. It's a known medical fact obesity is a huge detriment to ones health. Diabetes, and the multitude of ills it brings, high blood pressure and liver failure are just a few of the issues. How much does all that cost us every year? How many people die every year from diabetes-related afflictions?

Next. All smoking and vaping is banned. The health effects of both are well known and the costs associated with both keep climbing.

Execute all drug dealers. With all the whining about heroin deaths and the well known dangers of all the other illegal drugs, getting rid of the supply will be a good first step.

Everyone who leaves a bar, nightclub or any place which serves alcohol will have to undergo a breathalyzer test to make sure they're not driving home drunk. That will cut down on both the people themselves dying or, more likely, being injured and running up huge medical bills which the rest of us will have to pay for, as well as the killing and maiming of those around them.

To make sure we have a healthy population everyone will have to submit to a twice yearly medical exam to make sure they're eating right and exercising. Anyone found to not have a pre-existing medical condition and fails either test gets fined.

How's that for a start? That will get us to a healthy population in no time. What's that? Government being too intrusive? Too bad. You want a healthy population, then let's do it right. None of this death by a thousand cuts by bleeding people over decades, get to the point.
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If the idea is to have a healthy population and you think it's acceptable for the government to force people to hand over their money for no reason, then let's do it right.

The government will mandate every obese person either lose weight on their own or undergo stomach banding. It's a known medical fact obesity is a huge detriment to ones health. Diabetes, and the multitude of ills it brings, high blood pressure and liver failure are just a few of the issues. How much does all that cost us every year? How many people die every year from diabetes-related afflictions?

Next. All smoking and vaping is banned. The health effects of both are well known and the costs associated with both keep climbing.

Execute all drug dealers. With all the whining about heroin deaths and the well known dangers of all the other illegal drugs, getting rid of the supply will be a good first step.

Everyone who leaves a bar, nightclub or any place which serves alcohol will have to undergo a breathalyzer test to make sure they're not driving home drunk. That will cut down on both the people themselves dying or, more likely, being injured and running up huge medical bills which the rest of us will have to pay for, as well as the killing and maiming of those around them.

To make sure we have a healthy population everyone will have to submit to a twice yearly medical exam to make sure they're eating right and exercising. Anyone found to not have a pre-existing medical condition and fails either test gets fined.

How's that for a start? That will get us to a healthy population in no time. What's that? Government being too intrusive? Too bad. You want a healthy population, then let's do it right. None of this death by a thousand cuts by bleeding people over decades, get to the point.
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Yes....freedom to spend my time and money how I want and suffer the consequences of those choices.



I like having both, hope they give the freedom back sometime soon.

If you can't make it without the nanny state wiping your ass maybe you should move to a place with a better nanny to better care for you.
Or maybe you should just move to the jungle and live with other savages who are just like you.
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If the idea is to have a healthy population and you think it's acceptable for the government to force people to hand over their money for no reason, then let's do it right.

The government will mandate every obese person either lose weight on their own or undergo stomach banding. It's a known medical fact obesity is a huge detriment to ones health. Diabetes, and the multitude of ills it brings, high blood pressure and liver failure are just a few of the issues. How much does all that cost us every year? How many people die every year from diabetes-related afflictions?

Next. All smoking and vaping is banned. The health effects of both are well known and the costs associated with both keep climbing.

Execute all drug dealers. With all the whining about heroin deaths and the well known dangers of all the other illegal drugs, getting rid of the supply will be a good first step.

Everyone who leaves a bar, nightclub or any place which serves alcohol will have to undergo a breathalyzer test to make sure they're not driving home drunk. That will cut down on both the people themselves dying or, more likely, being injured and running up huge medical bills which the rest of us will have to pay for, as well as the killing and maiming of those around them.

To make sure we have a healthy population everyone will have to submit to a twice yearly medical exam to make sure they're eating right and exercising. Anyone found to not have a pre-existing medical condition and fails either test gets fined.

How's that for a start? That will get us to a healthy population in no time. What's that? Government being too intrusive? Too bad. You want a healthy population, then let's do it right. None of this death by a thousand cuts by bleeding people over decades, get to the point.
Do any of those things happen in any countries with centralised health care?
It's just plain stupid.

Centralised contracts means greater purchasing power therefore cheaper drugs, other supplies & services. Good Republican principles.

It works with education, emergency services etc. You don't worry about the obese unemployed wearing out the roads that you paid for, and it's a myth that the unemployed don't pay taxes. Anyone who uses a vehicle or purchases anything pays taxes (even by supporting the employment of others who pay).

Heck there's nothing to stop you from continuing to buy insurance if you wish. There's plenty of private health care in the UK; you can bet that the Queen doesn't sit in the line at the local GP surgery.
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Or maybe you should just move to the jungle and live with other savages who are just like you.
The USA was created for people like me by people like me, why should I leave because you want to destroy the USA?
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Do any of those things happen in any countries with centralised health care?
It's just plain stupid.

Centralised contracts means greater purchasing power therefore cheaper drugs, other supplies & services. Good Republican principles.

It works with education, emergency services etc. You don't worry about the obese unemployed wearing out the roads that you paid for, and it's a myth that the unemployed don't pay taxes. Anyone who uses a vehicle or purchases anything pays taxes (even by supporting the employment of others who pay).

Heck there's nothing to stop you from continuing to buy insurance if you wish. There's plenty of private health care in the UK; you can bet that the Queen doesn't sit in the line at the local GP surgery.
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The USA was created for people like me by people like me, why should I leave because you want to destroy the USA?
Because you'll either be forced out or you will find yourself living in a so-called nanny state.

Old white GOP voters are slowly dying and most minorities vote Democrat, kiddo. And after Trump, most POC and women will never vote Republican ever again. The GOP can only suppress their vote for so long before the dam breaks and your natural selection fantasy world collapses.
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Because you'll either be forced out or you will find yourself living in a so-called nanny state.
No, I won't LOL.

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Old white GOP voters are slowly dying and most minorities vote Democrat, kiddo.
Don't care, minorities don't get out and vote.

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And after Trump, most POC and women will never vote Republican ever again.
LMFAO!!!

They didn't vote Republican in the first place dumbass.

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The GOP can only suppress their vote for so long before the dam breaks and your natural selection fantasy world collapses.
There is no voter suppression and the natural selection isn't the fantasy....the socialist utopia is.

That's why you don't have the balls to walk the walk and mover your sorry ass to Venezuela.
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No, I won't LOL.



Don't care, minorities don't get out and vote.
Who told you that lie? The only time they don't vote is if they get purged from the voter rolls in Republican states. Otherwise they turn out quite fanatically.

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They didn't vote Republican in the first place dumbass.
And that, my inbred friend, is why they will throw the GOP out in the 2040s and you will find yourself living in a largely socialist country. Or you will leave.

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The courts have discovered otherwise. When even Gorusch's Supreme Court is throwing out voter suppression laws, you know you're full of shit.

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That's why you don't have the balls to walk the walk and mover your sorry ass to Venezuela.
Nope, I have the balls to fight and take over this country. And I'm young, so I will live to see Republicans die demographically and liberal policies take over.

It will be a better age for us - and hell for shit-for-brains savages like you.
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Who told you that lie? The only time they don't vote is if they get purged from the voter rolls in Republican states. Otherwise they turn out quite fanatically.
LOL.....no they don't.

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And that, my inbred friend, is why they will throw the GOP out in the 2040s and you will find yourself living in a largely socialist country. Or you will leave.
Never happening.

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The courts have discovered otherwise. When even Gorusch's Supreme Court is throwing out voter suppression laws, you know you're full of shit.
So then there is no voter suppression.

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Nope, I have the balls to fight and take over this country. And I'm young, so I will live to see Republicans die demographically and liberal policies take over.
You don't have balls and I bet you're older than me.

And you nor the democrats are going toward liberal polices, you're such an idiot you don't even know what the fuck liberalism is.

You fucking hate liberalism, you're a socialist....the two are not even close to the same thing, get a dictionary.

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Do any of those things happen in any countries with centralised health care?
It's just plain stupid.


It works with education, emergency services etc.
You think government-run education works? That explains a lot.
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LOL.....no they don't.
Yes they do, and that's the end of this discussion. You can keep talking but you're wrong. When I tell you that you're wrong, that's it and that's all, son. Republicans are so scared of the POC vote that they're trying desperately to stop it. And even the Gorsuch Court is taking action against them.

Moving on.

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You don't have balls and I bet you're older than me.

And you nor the democrats are going toward liberal polices, you're such an idiot you don't even know what the fuck liberalism is.

You fucking hate liberalism, you're a socialist....the two are not even close to the same thing, get a dictionary.
Liberalism is about taking care of the poor and fighting racism. You'd know that if you weren't an inbred fetal alcohol syndrome suffering fucktard.

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You'll never get your socialist utopia
There is no utopia. But practically every European nation is more liberal than the US and they're doing better. And when we take over - and we will - we'll be more like them and less like the hellhole your white masters have created.
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